Spike Lee Writes, Directs Story for NBA 2K16 MyCAREER Mode

[SPRINGS03]

Quote: Originally Posted by TalenT

You disagree that there are some people that like the story mode approach? So you're saying you CAN please everybody? I'm not buying that bro. Just because you don't remember it or haven't heard it doesn't mean it hasn't happened. If that's the case your second paragraph makes no sense. If no one likes the story mode approach, why even include it? Lol

No, you misunderstood. I said i disagree that everyone would have been complaining that my career wasn't changing enough and they wanted something drastically different if they didn't add a story mode. Have no idea where i said you could please everybody lol.

The point that you missed was there really wasn't a lot of people complaining about my career not changing enough, a lot of the biggest complaints for my career were the teammate AI and the lack of sliders, not some lack of story or cutscenes.

In your post i responded to you ASSUMED people would start complaining if they didn't do some drastic change for my career, you said people WOULD HAVE started complaining if they didn't change it, where did you get that basis from? Association hasn't had a drastic change like my career in years, it's just strongly improved it's core elements, and people haven't been asking for a storyline for it or anything like that.

[TGsoGood]

I've got an interesting take on this years MyCareer/ MyPlayer mode. I haven't heard anyone discuss or speculate on the potential ramifications for the mode on PC if modding is indeed easier this year.

If we are actually controlling a player beginning in high school, this would mean we could easily mod in real high school art even if all of the players are fictional. If we do have roster editing on pc this year for 2k16 we could make a real HS mod.

I'm not sure where this mode takes you after Highschool but if it has fictional colleges then this would be great for a mini college mod.
Even if it takes you to Euroleague you can mod the jerseys to resemble college jerseys and gear.

This could be the year that PC finally gets to fully mod MyCareer... of course I'm just trying to hype myself up. In all likelihood it will be a repeat of last year as far as pc goes, with limited modding abilities.

[TalenT]

Quote: Originally Posted by SPRINGS03

No, you misunderstood. I said i disagree that everyone would have been complaining that my career wasn't changing enough and they wanted something drastically different if they didn't add a story mode. Have no idea where i said you could please everybody lol. The point that you missed was there really wasn't a lot of people complaining about my career not changing enough, a lot of the biggest complaints for my career were the teammate AI and the lack of sliders, not some lack of story or cutscenes. In your post i responded to you ASSUMED people would start complaining if they didn't do some drastic change for my career, you said people WOULD HAVE started complaining if they didn't change it, where did you get that basis from? Association hasn't had a drastic change like my career in years, it's just strongly improved it's core elements, and people haven't been asking for a storyline for it or anything like that.

Where are you getting the bold info from? I know you're not new to OS. People complain about EVERYTHING. MyCareer is no different. I get what you're trying to say but, the way you're making it seem is that everybody feels the same about any particular mode. I can guarantee SOMEBODY would be on here complaining about it if it stayed the same. And you're comparing Association to MyCareer? Lol Really? First point, people complain about Association all the time and how it's unchanged. Second point, MyCareer is fantasy. People have their own vision on how things should unfold in they're own fantasy world, which is why if it doesn't meet THEIR standards...they will complain. Ok, I'm done.

[nova91]

Quote: Originally Posted by Clappington

In reality though the storyline for mycareer really took that game mode to new heights and idk guess im in the minority on here but I actually enjoy it more than the old mycareer. old mycareer got really boring me didn't even want to play anymore than 1 season.

The storyline sucks. There is no new dialogue after the first 1.5 seasons, nothing new happens, hell, you actually lose cutscenes and dialogue after that. There are only so many times Al Jefferson can come to my guy and tell him to not get too pumped up after a great game. It turns back into the same old MC mode it has always been with a few extra delays you can't wait to get past so you can play your next game.

The rivals make no sense. My SF plays in Charlotte, instead having a veteran or rookie rival at my position, conference or division I'm stuck with Cousins and Exum, both of which I only play twice a year and don't even get to matchup against and one is a bench player. There is no new dialogue within the rivalry and it doesn't progress. My dude wins MVP and he's still going at it with a player that averages less than 15 mpg?

The scripted coaching change didn't make sense and there is only one possible coach to get. We were 5th when I signed, finished 2nd in the east and lost to the Pacers(NBA champs) in the ECF, yet we fired Steve Clifford and hired Doc Rivers who wouldn't have been fired after winning the division and having the 2nd best record in west and losing to the Thunder, who had the best record in the NBA by 10 games, in game 7 of the WCF.

The in game dialogue sucks.

Cover somebody!? My actual matchup is 1-6 from the field and the only bucket he scored was because no one attempted to back on defense after a my missed baseline jumper.

Too many turnovers!? I have 2 in the 19 consecutive minutes you played me in the 1st half to go with 9 assists.

The scrimmages suck.

We need to work on being aggressive and drawing fouls!? We shot 27 FTs last game and not to mention there is no ability to draw fouls in scrimmages.

Getting yelled at after the scrimmages for not hustling or playing well enough!? I scored or assisted on 11 of the teams 15 points, had 4 rebounds, and 2 steals.

[TiquilaSunrise]

You can't even pre-order it for PC, the **** :x

And I seriously doubt its gonna be any more mod-friendly this year, because they will use exactly the same engine. So it will be the same Game with new Content/Gameplay.

[SPRINGS03]

Quote: Originally Posted by TalenT

Where are you getting the bold info from? I know you're not new to OS. People complain about EVERYTHING. MyCareer is no different. I get what you're trying to say but, the way you're making it seem is that everybody feels the same about any particular mode. I can guarantee SOMEBODY would be on here complaining about it if it stayed the same. And you're comparing Association to MyCareer? Lol Really? First point, people complain about Association all the time and how it's unchanged. Second point, MyCareer is fantasy. People have their own vision on how things should unfold in they're own fantasy world, which is why if it doesn't meet THEIR standards...they will complain. Ok, I'm done.

All you have to do is look at comments when my player was mentioned or people talk about my player for next year, before they added a forced storyline, there's ALWAYS people saying the teammate ai needs to be improved or that they wish they could use sliders. People demanding a storyline? Not so much. And just because SOMEBODY would of complained about something isn't really a strong reason for adding a mode IMO. I once saw SOMEBODY talk about how they thought it would be a great idea if 2k added a feature where in a close game in the final seconds they added some kind of slow motion theatrics on a clutch shot and you had to do a quick time event. Just because a person might want something doesn't mean it's something that's in high demand or needed.

And where do people complain about association not being changed? I'm curious. I've been an association guy since 2k5, and don't get me wrong, people complained about it all the time, but the complaints were always related to problems with the association(weird trades made by the computer was ALWAYS brought up for example), but i don''t really remember anyone saying "association is boring, i wish they would add a storyline to it"(if there's a lot of people saying that please show me) Hell even this year, after they upgraded it to myleague and fixed a bunch of issues, i don't remember people complaining about it being the same too much. The big complaint this year for it seems to be some kind of rookie progression bug from what i've seen.

And by the way, i'm not saying it's impossible that anyone could of possibly wanted some fixed storyline for my player, but i'd definitely say if there were people that wanted that, they were in the minority.

Also, i agree, people definitely have their own vision of how they want things to go in their fantasy world. Another reason a linear scripted storyline isn't a great idea.

[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by SPRINGS03

All you have to do is look at comments when my player was mentioned or people talk about my player for next year, before they added a forced storyline, there's ALWAYS people saying the teammate ai needs to be improved or that they wish they could use sliders. People demanding a storyline? Not so much. And just because SOMEBODY would of complained about something isn't really a strong reason for adding a mode IMO. I once saw SOMEBODY talk about how they thought it would be a great idea if 2k added a feature where in a close game in the final seconds they added some kind of slow motion theatrics on a clutch shot and you had to do a quick time event. Just because a person might want something doesn't mean it's something that's in high demand or needed. And where do people complain about association not being changed? I'm curious. I've been an association guy since 2k5, and don't get me wrong, people complained about it all the time, but the complaints were always related to problems with the association(weird trades made by the computer was ALWAYS brought up for example), but i don''t really remember anyone saying "association is boring, i wish they would add a storyline to it"(if there's a lot of people saying that please show me) Hell even this year, after they upgraded it to myleague and fixed a bunch of issues, i don't remember people complaining about it being the same too much. The big complaint this year for it seems to be some kind of rookie progression bug from what i've seen. And by the way, i'm not saying it's impossible that anyone could of possibly wanted some fixed storyline for my player, but i'd definitely say if there were people that wanted that, they were in the minority. Also, i agree, people definitely have their own vision of how they want things to go in their fantasy world. Another reason a linear scripted storyline isn't a great idea.

I think you're going a little revisionist history here. I was around when MyPlayer started and over the years of it's life. There were quite a few people that eventually grew tired of just a wall of games with nothing else really happening in the mode. Now did someone ask for "forced storylines" specifically? Don't think so, but let's not sit here and pretend like a very large portion of the fanbase (and not this small number that you're framing it as) wasn't a little fatigued at playing 82 straight games with no endorsements, no real team interactions etc. happening. People don't even play all 82 games of their associations lol.

[Clappington]

Quote: Originally Posted by nova91

The storyline sucks. There is no new dialogue after the first 1.5 seasons, nothing new happens, hell, you actually lose cutscenes and dialogue after that. There are only so many times Al Jefferson can come to my guy and tell him to not get too pumped up after a great game. It turns back into the same old MC mode it has always been with a few extra delays you can't wait to get past so you can play your next game. The rivals make no sense. My SF plays in Charlotte, instead having a veteran or rookie rival at my position, conference or division I'm stuck with Cousins and Exum, both of which I only play twice a year and don't even get to matchup against and one is a bench player. There is no new dialogue within the rivalry and it doesn't progress. My dude wins MVP and he's still going at it with a player that averages less than 15 mpg? The scripted coaching change didn't make sense and there is only one possible coach to get. We were 5th when I signed, finished 2nd in the east and lost to the Pacers(NBA champs) in the ECF, yet we fired Steve Clifford and hired Doc Rivers who wouldn't have been fired after winning the division and having the 2nd best record in west and losing to the Thunder, who had the best record in the NBA by 10 games, in game 7 of the WCF. The in game dialogue sucks. Cover somebody!? My actual matchup is 1-6 from the field and the only bucket he scored was because no one attempted to back on defense after a my missed baseline jumper. Too many turnovers!? I have 2 in the 19 consecutive minutes you played me in the 1st half to go with 9 assists. The scrimmages suck. We need to work on being aggressive and drawing fouls!? We shot 27 FTs last game and not to mention there is no ability to draw fouls in scrimmages. Getting yelled at after the scrimmages for not hustling or playing well enough!? I scored or assisted on 11 of the teams 15 points, had 4 rebounds, and 2 steals.

I'm not disagreeing that the scripted stuff isnt annoying, the story mode has a lot of flaws and you have to understand this isnt a company that is going to make a good storymode like the witcher(example), they arent going to make the perfect storyline just not going to happen so let it go. I can agree that a lot of aspects in the dialogue needs to improve, but if you ask the majority of 2k fans they actually enjoy it and I dont want to hear "oh thats just casuals liking anything"or how "ohhh they just dedicating this game for little kids" when there are plenty of teens and adults who love the story modes!
But in all the story mode can and will improve each year its going to have flaws but why cant you just accept it for what it is.