2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[bwoodring9]

Quote: Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear

Who have you dealt so far? And for what? I remember talking a lot about potential moves in your 'chise, but I'm curious as to who you've brought in so far. I think Utley went to LAD. Did you trade Lee yet? Halladay? Rollins? Bastardo? Young? For Papelbon or Ruiz, I don't think you'll get a top 50 guy, maybe not a top 100 either. I feel that we've discussed this before, but for Papelbon, the Tigers, Dodgers, or Brewers make sense. I think you were looking at some combination of Rondon and Dirks last I remember. For Ruiz, the Dodgers, Yankees, Rays, Angels, White Sox would fit. You could probably get the 4th or 5th best prospect of any of those systems back for Ruiz. Maybe 3rd best in weaker systems like the Angels and White Sox, depending on their need and other options. You might also think about packaging them both to the Dodgers and getting an even better prospect, though I'm not certain if Zach Lee or Corey Seager would be available. It seems that your Phillies have a bunch of guys the Dodgers could use in Utley, Ruiz, and Papelbon.

I actually restarted so I do still have Utley, Ruiz, Halladay, and papelbon. Thus far I've traded lee to Texas for olt, Alfaro, Perez, and fierebond, or however you spell it. The only other move i have made is young to LAA for conger and nick maronde.

[RogueHominid]

Quote: Originally Posted by G3no_11

The realism really isn't there any way you look at it. The Rockies have never been a team that deals for starting pitching... especially starting pitching that is expensive. They are a team that builds from within their farm system.. They would rather sink or swim with the guys they've called up rather than trade for players and take on salary. Pomeranz is someone who the Rockies really want to try to keep and if he is putting up the numbers he is in your chise.. they wouldn't deal him. Aquino is a top 15 prospect in the Rockies organization. He's young, a lefty, and is actually a starter in real life and putting up decent numbers in the lower minors. You say they are ?'s.. even though Milone is a solid starting pitcher... he is a ? too. You have no idea how many starting pitchers get traded or signed to Colorado and totally tank. No starting pitcher is a sure thing in Coors Field and that's why they don't make these types of trades. You could probably work out a realistic trade between these two teams, but the one you have proposed right now, really isn't.

Milone is killing it for me with OAK at the ASB. He's 11-2 with a sub-3 ERA.

Moss is friggin tearing the cover off the ball @ .300 and 20 HR.

If I were building my team, I wouldn't let either of them walk. I also like Lowrie just fine. He's a .250 and 15-20 HR guy for me with a good arm that plays all around the IF. Definitely a guy I want around.

If I were looking to improve, I'd take someone at 3B, and/or a reliever, because after Balfour and Cook, you're looking at guys rated in the 70s who are up and down. If I could get a significant upgrade in the middle IF, then perhaps, but I have B rated guys who play okay in there.

In terms of thinning my starting pitching as OAK, I'd be careful about that because the young arms aren't as deep as you might think, and they're really not ready for more than long relief or a spot start for an injured guy. Colon got hurt in my franchise for a couple of months, and it's pressed me to the limit to keep the big league club stocked with viable arms.

Just a .02.

[Bluejaysfan65]

Quote: Originally Posted by ACMilan99

Certainly.

Thanks! I'll add it whenever I have time.

[Deuce2223]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trojan Man

Milone is killing it for me with OAK at the ASB. He's 11-2 with a sub-3 ERA. Moss is friggin tearing the cover off the ball @ .300 and 20 HR. If I were building my team, I wouldn't let either of them walk. I also like Lowrie just fine. He's a .250 and 15-20 HR guy for me with a good arm that plays all around the IF. Definitely a guy I want around. If I were looking to improve, I'd take someone at 3B, and/or a reliever, because after Balfour and Cook, you're looking at guys rated in the 70s who are up and down. If I could get a significant upgrade in the middle IF, then perhaps, but I have B rated guys who play okay in there. In terms of thinning my starting pitching as OAK, I'd be careful about that because the young arms aren't as deep as you might think, and they're really not ready for more than long relief or a spot start for an injured guy. Colon got hurt in my franchise for a couple of months, and it's pressed me to the limit to keep the big league club stocked with viable arms. Just a .02.

The problem with Oakland like it has always been, is they don't have the payroll to keep all their guy's. I am not actually using Oakland, but I am running 30 team control thus trying to make trades that helps all teams. I agree that there is not a lot of depth at SP but they signed M. Garza in the offseason ( I guess I don't have FA turned on manuel) for all teams. and they resigned B. Anderson, so now I need to open up cap space for them to be able to resign Parker and Cespedes at the end of the year, plus their draft picks, plus have money to be able to add a FA or 2.

Well Lawrie is solid, however they have a logjam in the IF (Weeks, Sizemore, Green, Nakajima, not to mention A. Russell in AAA) and Lawrie has the biggest contract.

[RogueHominid]

Quote: Originally Posted by Deuce2223

The problem with Oakland like it has always been, is they don't have the payroll to keep all their guy's. I am not actually using Oakland, but I am running 30 team control thus trying to make trades that helps all teams. I agree that there is not a lot of depth at SP but they signed M. Garza in the offseason ( I guess I don't have FA turned on manuel) for all teams. and they resigned B. Anderson, so now I need to open up cap space for them to be able to resign Parker and Cespedes at the end of the year, plus their draft picks, plus have money to be able to add a FA or 2. Well Lawrie is solid, however they have a logjam in the IF (Weeks, Sizemore, Green, Nakajima, not to mention A. Russell in AAA) and Lawrie has the biggest contract.

Good point. I'm trying to figure out what to do here at the AS break with precisely the problems you named.

The only reason I've been able to get by with roster balance is because I've had at least 3 middle IF injured at all times. And even then I have Rosales rotting on the bench and Donaldson only getting split time because he's up and down with the bat.

Let me ask you your opinion:

I'm @ 66-26, 8.5 games above the LAA.

I have the following core players who are lights-out:

Anderson: 10-3 3.29 ERA
Milone: 12-1 3.27 ERA
Parker: 12-2 3.42 ERA
Balfour 35 SV 1.93 ERA

Moss: .309 29 HR 66 RBI
Cespedes: .286 16 HR 54 RBI
Lowrie (sort of): .271 16 HR 39 RBI

Everyone else is a platoon player or an average starter/plus backup. Jemile Weeks is around .260, not good enough yet for the top of the lineup, and Coco is sub .250. Reddick, despite his potential, is at .229 with 15 HR and 55 RBI.

I really want to do something long-term to add at least one core player to the lineup. I have power all the way through, but I'd like a really good guy for the #1 or #2 hole and perhaps an upgrade at any position other than RF and 1B.

I would be willing to move Anderson given his 3.1M salary, and potentially Reddick given his dismal average but high potential. Coco is costing me 1.7M as well and is way underperforming.

So, not sure what's the best way to go here. I can use Strailey and Colon to fill one SP spot, and perhaps parlay the above players into a deal for a position upgrade that would make room for Chris Young or Seth Smith, who's also playing well.

Thoughts from anyone? Thanks in advance!

[WaitTilNextYear]

Honestly, with you being 40 games over .500 at the All Star break, all I could recommend is just keep your team together. Or increase the difficulty. With such a dominant record, you really don't need to make any moves.

[RogueHominid]

Quote: Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear

Honestly, with you being 40 games over .500 at the All Star break, all I could recommend is just keep your team together. Or increase the difficulty. With such a dominant record, you really don't need to make any moves.

Yeah, I can see that point. I may be able to retain Reddick and Anderson and will certainly let Crisp walk.

Regarding my record, I'm surprised at it because I play 1 and sim 4-6, depending on the starters, so many of my wins are CPU simulated wins.

Even so, when I do play, I'm murdering the CPU hitters. I may look at HOF sliders, but I may also see if I've just gotten lucky this year or during the first half. If I lose 2 starters or 2 of my three good hitters I'm toast.

I'm currently using an All Star set that's pretty good. Those don't affect sim wins, do they?

And as for running the franchise, when you have a player like Reddick who is hitting HR (15 after 90 games) but is only hitting .225, do you send that guy down for a bit, bench him for a bit, play him through and hope he figures it out, or try to trade him while the rating and potential are high?

I have so many guys @ .250 or so that I really want a .300 guy or two.

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Try to deal Reddick to another contending team for prospects. Their has to be a team around the league that is in contention that needs some power. Despite his low average Reddick is still a good trade chip He's hitting for decent power has a high potential and is young. Let Crisp walk after the season their is no real need to retain him you can always scout draft and develop another outfielder.