2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[Deuce2223]

July 31st in my M's Franchise in 2014. Boston has been on a losing streak and now sits 11 games out in the East and 6.5 out of the Wildcard behind teams like the Rangers,Yankees,Blue Jays, Tigers, Orioles, Angels and even the Twins.

So I am thinking they now are in the seller group, joining Houston (15 GB), Oakland (18.6 GB), the Mets (16.5), Phillies (18.5) and Marlins (22.0), Cubs (19.5), Pirates (21.0), Rockies (9.0).


The Giants have won 4 in a row and 7 out of 10 and are now tied with the Dodgers (also winning 7-10) for 2nd place in the NL West 1 game back of Arizona. The Padres dropped to 3rd/4th (1.5 games back).

I just made some deals for Arizona (got Cliff Lee) and the Padres (got Peavy and A. Ramirez).

I now want to make a deal for the Giants..

They need help behind the plate (Posey is on the DL for 3 weeks), help in the OF (last years adds A. Soriano is hitting .262 with 2 HR, and S. Hairston is on the DL), also could use a upgrade at 2B and possibly SS as Crawford is a B. Ryan clone (great glove no offense).

I was thinking about doing a deal with Boston, grabbing M. Napoli and putting him behind the plate until Posey returns, then moving him to 1B and Belt to the OF.. Also thought about adding S. Victorino for LF as he is the Sox's #4 OF, (they have A. Either starting in RF), and could promote B. Bentz or B. Jacobs to be the new #4.

Napoli is only hitting .219 with 11 HR and 37 RBI, but last season hit .281 with 48 HR and 116 RBI. Victorino is hitting .239 with 11 HR and 25 RBI.

Figure it's a buy low opportunity, but the Giants are weak at prospects other then young pitching which Boston already has a lot of in De La Rosa,Webster,Barnes,Ranaudo,Workman,Owens and Britton.

Any thoughts Spreadsheet says 2 High C's for each.

Looking at the roster, I was thinking maybe 1B A. Villalona (65B) currently in AA, and OF F. Peguero (62C) if I just went with the same positions...

Another twist would be the Giants dealing P. Sandoval (making 11.7 mil) for Napoli, Victorino, and Middlebrooks, (not realistic) but seams fair as spreadsheet has Pablo worth 3 High B.


Another option could be a deal with the Pirates for Russell Martin, and J. Tabata.

Where then I could deal someone like Heston or Crick, to give Pittsburgh another young SP to go with Cole and Tallion

Or I could deal with Houston getting K. Morales for 1B and J. Elmore for 2B, move B. Belt to LF and still need to find a C.

Houston also could use young SP, as I have already dealt B. Norris and B. Peacock away along with P. Humber.

[Deuce2223]

Quote: Originally Posted by kmoser

The Mariners have placed Maurer on the block and I need a SP so I want to offer this: Astros Send: SP Asher Wojiehowski low B, RP Josh Fields mid B, LF Brandon Barnes low B Mariners send: Brandon Maurer high B (86 ovr), RP Stephan Pryor high C The Mariners really need a LF and That's why I am sending Barnes as he could help them out. I know this is an inter division trade but I think it helps each team

I love Pryor in my Franchise, but I would take that deal, even with it being inter-division. From what I have seen from Barnes in real life, I really like him.

[kmoser]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bluejaysfan65

Seems ok. What are the stats for the players?

Maurer 4-0 2.27 era
Pryor 1-0 5.74 era

Barnes .282/ .321/ .410 10 RBI
WojieHowski 2-2 6.59 era
Fields 1-1 1.66 era

[kmoser]

Quote: Originally Posted by Deuce2223

I love Pryor in my Franchise, but I would take that deal, even with it being inter-division. From what I have seen from Barnes in real life, I really like him.

Yea Barnes is a great fielder. I just don't have room for him anymore in my chise

[Deuce2223]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bluejaysfan65

Was thinking of some possible CPU and CPU trades and I need some help. I'm not familiar with the Tampa Bay Rays so could someone tell me which positions they need help at. I know that their rotation is already in beast mode but other than Wil Myers and Evan Longoria, I don't know them very well. Thanks in advance for any help...

Depends on how Looney and Scott are playing as well as M. Joyce and K. Johnson, but they could use help at 1B/DH/LF/2B and most behind the plate. Also depending on how Rodney is doing as the CP, could use help there too. Nice thing is they have Zorbist who can move around allowing you to put him either in the OF or at 1B or 2B, thus making it easier to trade guys.

In my Franchise I just dealt A. Rios and A. Dunn from Chicago to the Rays.

They do have extra SP to deal, because with their current starting 5, Archer is stuck in the bullpen, and Guerrieri,Colome and Odorizzi all in AAA. Personally I wouldn't be afraid to deal Cobb or Niemann away because of this.

[Bluejaysfan65]

Quote: Originally Posted by kmoser

Maurer 4-0 2.27 era Pryor 1-0 5.74 era Barnes .282/ .321/ .410 10 RBI WojieHowski 2-2 6.59 era Fields 1-1 1.66 era

Yeah seems ok to me.

[Bluejaysfan65]

Quote: Originally Posted by Deuce2223

Depends on how Looney and Scott are playing as well as M. Joyce and K. Johnson, but they could use help at 1B/DH/LF/2B and most behind the plate. Also depending on how Rodney is doing as the CP, could use help there too. Nice thing is they have Zorbist who can move around allowing you to put him either in the OF or at 1B or 2B, thus making it easier to trade guys. In my Franchise I just dealt A. Rios and A. Dunn from Chicago to the Rays. They do have extra SP to deal, because with their current starting 5, Archer is stuck in the bullpen, and Guerrieri,Colome and Odorizzi all in AAA. Personally I wouldn't be afraid to deal Cobb or Niemann away because of this.

Loney, Scott, Joyce and Johnson are doing average (respectively). I'll look into getting them a catcher and some first base help. DH is occupied by Joyce with Myers in left field and Zobrist in right field. Johnson's taking up second base so I'll look into catcher. Thanks for the help!

[WaitTilNextYear]

Quote: Originally Posted by Deuce2223

July 31st in my M's Franchise in 2014. Boston has been on a losing streak and now sits 11 games out in the East and 6.5 out of the Wildcard behind teams like the Rangers,Yankees,Blue Jays, Tigers, Orioles, Angels and even the Twins. So I am thinking they now are in the seller group, joining Houston (15 GB), Oakland (18.6 GB), the Mets (16.5), Phillies (18.5) and Marlins (22.0), Cubs (19.5), Pirates (21.0), Rockies (9.0). The Giants have won 4 in a row and 7 out of 10 and are now tied with the Dodgers (also winning 7-10) for 2nd place in the NL West 1 game back of Arizona. The Padres dropped to 3rd/4th (1.5 games back). I just made some deals for Arizona (got Cliff Lee) and the Padres (got Peavy and A. Ramirez). I now want to make a deal for the Giants.. They need help behind the plate (Posey is on the DL for 3 weeks), help in the OF (last years adds A. Soriano is hitting .262 with 2 HR, and S. Hairston is on the DL), also could use a upgrade at 2B and possibly SS as Crawford is a B. Ryan clone (great glove no offense). I was thinking about doing a deal with Boston, grabbing M. Napoli and putting him behind the plate until Posey returns, then moving him to 1B and Belt to the OF.. Also thought about adding S. Victorino for LF as he is the Sox's #4 OF, (they have A. Either starting in RF), and could promote B. Bentz or B. Jacobs to be the new #4. Napoli is only hitting .219 with 11 HR and 37 RBI, but last season hit .281 with 48 HR and 116 RBI. Victorino is hitting .239 with 11 HR and 25 RBI. Figure it's a buy low opportunity, but the Giants are weak at prospects other then young pitching which Boston already has a lot of in De La Rosa,Webster,Barnes,Ranaudo,Workman,Owens and Britton. Any thoughts Spreadsheet says 2 High C's for each. Looking at the roster, I was thinking maybe 1B A. Villalona (65B) currently in AA, and OF F. Peguero (62C) if I just went with the same positions... Another twist would be the Giants dealing P. Sandoval (making 11.7 mil) for Napoli, Victorino, and Middlebrooks, (not realistic) but seams fair as spreadsheet has Pablo worth 3 High B. Another option could be a deal with the Pirates for Russell Martin, and J. Tabata. Where then I could deal someone like Heston or Crick, to give Pittsburgh another young SP to go with Cole and Tallion Or I could deal with Houston getting K. Morales for 1B and J. Elmore for 2B, move B. Belt to LF and still need to find a C. Houston also could use young SP, as I have already dealt B. Norris and B. Peacock away along with P. Humber.

I'm not sure Boston would sell if out 6.5 games with 2 months to go. Lots can happen and their fan base would be extremely unhappy with that.

I'd look into sending Russell Martin to SF if he's in the last year of his contract. Otherwise, 3 weeks isn't very long, so I don't think a team would trade there, they'd probably just fill in with what they have.

I wouldn't even consider trading the Panda under any circumstances.

Also, Crick is too good to trade for Tabata/Martin. Maybe Heston, but not Crick.