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Old 02-12-2011, 06:24 PM   #193
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Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

At SS I'd rank:

-Hanley
-Tulowitzki
-Alexi Ramirez

Alexi is not flashy, you don't hear much about him, but he is legit. I've watch him a lot since he came to the league since Detroit see's Chicago 18 times a year. He's good for about .285 with 15-20 Homeruns. And defensively, he is one of the best in the league. Far better than Jeter. He's good good range, a good glove, and a great arm.

And people were debating between Gonzalez and Cabrera. I know the OP said they were interchangable at 2 and 3, but I feel like Cabrera has an edge over Gonzalez.

Cabrera is a career .317 hitter who averaged 35 homeruns, 120 RBI's, a .939 OPS, he gets on base a better clip.

Gonzalez is a career .284 hitter who has averaged 32 homeruns, 99 RBI's, a .875 OPS.

I know people will point out that Petco hurts his power numbers and his teammates don't give him much RBI opportunities. But Cabrera has played in Miami and now Comerica Park, both pitcher friendly places that hurt his power even more. I've seen Cabrera hit a ball 419 feet to dead center field and end up with a double. And his lineups have been weak, and some have been absolutely atrocious.

Gonzalez is a great fielder, and Cabrera is pretty average now and that's after he has improved. He's not winning any gold gloves any time soon. But I think there is pretty big difference in their offensive games. Enough to rate Cabrera a notch higher than Gonzalez. Plus, Miguel is coming off a monster year that made Gonzalez's great year look average. That's definitely gonna play a part in their ratings. Pujols is definitely number 1 right now, but Cabrera is right beyond him in terms of best overall hitter in baseball.
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Old 02-12-2011, 07:07 PM   #194
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At SS I'd rank:

-Hanley
-Tulowitzki
-Alexi Ramirez

Alexi is not flashy, you don't hear much about him, but he is legit. I've watch him a lot since he came to the league since Detroit see's Chicago 18 times a year. He's good for about .285 with 15-20 Homeruns. And defensively, he is one of the best in the league. Far better than Jeter. He's good good range, a good glove, and a great arm.

And people were debating between Gonzalez and Cabrera. I know the OP said they were interchangable at 2 and 3, but I feel like Cabrera has an edge over Gonzalez.

Cabrera is a career .317 hitter who averaged 35 homeruns, 120 RBI's, a .939 OPS, he gets on base a better clip.

Gonzalez is a career .284 hitter who has averaged 32 homeruns, 99 RBI's, a .875 OPS.

I know people will point out that Petco hurts his power numbers and his teammates don't give him much RBI opportunities. But Cabrera has played in Miami and now Comerica Park, both pitcher friendly places that hurt his power even more. I've seen Cabrera hit a ball 419 feet to dead center field and end up with a double. And his lineups have been weak, and some have been absolutely atrocious.

Gonzalez is a great fielder, and Cabrera is pretty average now and that's after he has improved. He's not winning any gold gloves any time soon. But I think there is pretty big difference in their offensive games. Enough to rate Cabrera a notch higher than Gonzalez. Plus, Miguel is coming off a monster year that made Gonzalez's great year look average. That's definitely gonna play a part in their ratings. Pujols is definitely number 1 right now, but Cabrera is right beyond him in terms of best overall hitter in baseball.
I agree that Miggy is over Gonzalez. Petco hurt him, but not enough to make up the difference offensively. Miguel is just a pure, complete hitter. Plus, he gets extra points for hitting that intentional walk for an RBI single a few years back with Florida. lol.
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Old 02-12-2011, 07:57 PM   #195
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Haha I never saw that. There is really no place you pitch him that he won't hit and hit hard I guess. Lol.
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:06 AM   #196
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Haha I never saw that. There is really no place you pitch him that he won't hit and hit hard I guess. Lol.

You've never seen it? And your username is "CabreraMVP"????

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Old 02-13-2011, 08:20 PM   #197
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At SS I'd rank:

-Hanley
-Tulowitzki
-Alexi Ramirez

Alexi is not flashy, you don't hear much about him, but he is legit. I've watch him a lot since he came to the league since Detroit see's Chicago 18 times a year. He's good for about .285 with 15-20 Homeruns. And defensively, he is one of the best in the league. Far better than Jeter. He's good good range, a good glove, and a great arm.

And people were debating between Gonzalez and Cabrera. I know the OP said they were interchangable at 2 and 3, but I feel like Cabrera has an edge over Gonzalez.

Cabrera is a career .317 hitter who averaged 35 homeruns, 120 RBI's, a .939 OPS, he gets on base a better clip.

Gonzalez is a career .284 hitter who has averaged 32 homeruns, 99 RBI's, a .875 OPS.

I know people will point out that Petco hurts his power numbers and his teammates don't give him much RBI opportunities. But Cabrera has played in Miami and now Comerica Park, both pitcher friendly places that hurt his power even more. I've seen Cabrera hit a ball 419 feet to dead center field and end up with a double. And his lineups have been weak, and some have been absolutely atrocious.

Gonzalez is a great fielder, and Cabrera is pretty average now and that's after he has improved. He's not winning any gold gloves any time soon. But I think there is pretty big difference in their offensive games. Enough to rate Cabrera a notch higher than Gonzalez. Plus, Miguel is coming off a monster year that made Gonzalez's great year look average. That's definitely gonna play a part in their ratings. Pujols is definitely number 1 right now, but Cabrera is right beyond him in terms of best overall hitter in baseball.
Yeah, I agree with all of this.

Miguel Cabrera is the man... The only hitter who has been better year in and year out over the past six or so seasons has been Albert Pujols.

Cabrera > Gonzo, and it's not even close IMO.

Gonzo is very, very good but Cabrera is in a different league.
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Old 02-13-2011, 09:01 PM   #198
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Gonzalez is the better power hitter, Cabrera is the better hitter for average. Gonzalez is the better fielder.

The show won't reflect the park factor and the ratings will be based on the past three seasons, but I wouldn't be surprised if Adrian puts up better numbers, regardless of the surrounding cast. You look at the splits and the difference between Adrian's home/road splits are far greater than Miguel's (Miguel has been a better hitter at home for the past four years).

With the exception of last season, Adrian has had a better OPS on the road than Miguel since 2007. In any case, Miguel Cabrera is an offensive monster, but to say he's easily superior than Adrian Gonzalez... I think that's ridiculous. They are very close as the 2nd-tier first basemen behind Albert Pujols. However, it won't matter in this game since all three will most likely be at the maximum for overall.
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Old 02-13-2011, 09:13 PM   #199
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You've never seen it? And your username is "CabreraMVP"????

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/164814...tentional_hit/
maybe he just has high hopes for Melky
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hopefully they get the potential right this year too. no more C potential for Joe Mauer
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