Not the Bottom of the Ninth, But a Big At-Bat Coming For MLB 2K10

[JayhawkerStL]

Quote: Originally Posted by kcxiv

Eh, trolling is has a different meaning for different people. For me, it means various things. Sign up on here just to moan and groan and offer no other insight=trolling. Trolling to me also means that you keep saying the same negative things about something over and over. Its like ok, we got it the first time. Move on. There are plenty of things i want to say regarding EA's football games, but i refrain because it will get me banned and i can respect the TOS this website has. For me, its just say what you want and move on, dont keep going over and over again. Do research about certain things to understand whats actually going on. Most people dont do that.

I agree. That's why I am not complaining about Madden over in their forum, despite renting or buying it every year. Every game that I felt the level of disgust I see by some results in moving on to play something else, and no longer discussing said game.

I think threads that are critical of a game are good, and go a long ways into either getting things patched, or warning others to avoid. But what happens is that some people have decided to play the game with caveats, and they have to wade through BS from people that should be playing something else by this point.

There are people that truly enjoy Madden this year. I don't see it, but I also don't see forcing them to defend their choice in a game.

[DaveDQ]

Quote: Originally Posted by baa7

For goodness sakes, they didn't even bother to put out a patch for the PS3 version of MLB 2K8. That game was close to unplayable due to framerate issues. 2K released a framerate patch for the 360 version, so what does that tell you about their attitude and relationship with the PS3 version of their game? They obviously don't care. And they don't care because they know they can't compete with The Show, so they've given up and are focused instead on being exclusive to the 360. So IMO you can't say they're paying the price of having competition. They're paying the price for being lazy and myopic. They're happy controlling half the baseball gaming market (and conveniently for T2-2K, the gaming market half that has no other choice).

I never knew that about the PS3 not receiving a patch and the 360 receiving one. That's not good. This is where though I don't think 2K, meaning Visual Concepts, feels they can't compete with the show. As far as I know, Jeff and Greg Thomas are still there. They have been there for a while and I don't see them taking the mindset of "we can't compete."

I think in all of it they simply don't have the time and resources. I don't see VC, the company that so well refined their football product and also created what is NBA 2K, folding up and being lazy. I think it all is in the fault of Take Two not being able to support a full effort.

lol..but what do I know.

[jkra0512]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxFan01605

They have culpability here, regardless of consumer savvy. It's akin excusing a criminal for the crime because the victim was essentially "asking for it."

No it's not the same. I am saying think twice before choosing the road that has a lot of criminal activity on it, because they are essentially "asking for it" if they do walk down without taking the necessary precautions.* If 2k repeatedly sold you crap year after year, then that person is either dumb or they don't care. As a consumer you have to pick up on that, make an informed decision and not blindly buy the game only to look back and complain about it year after year afterward.

2K is wrong in every facet here, but we consumers are also at fault for enabling this YEAR AFTER YEAR...

*(Not calling 2k criminal, just going with the analogy presented)

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by baseball66

Then again some games don't need to be played thoroughly to see what it is.

Yet they still draw individuals writing thesis papers on them year round. Funny how that works.

[bigfnjoe96]

Love these conversations as it just remind me video game baseball is just around corner...

[kcxiv]

Quote: Originally Posted by DaveDQ

I never knew that about the PS3 not receiving a patch and the 360 receiving one. That's not good. This is where though I don't think 2K, meaning Visual Concepts, feels they can't compete with the show. As far as I know, Jeff and Greg Thomas are still there. They have been there for a while and I don't see them taking the mindset of "we can't compete." I think in all of it they simply don't have the time and resources. I don't see VC, the company that so well refined their football product and also created what is NBA 2K, folding up and being lazy. I think it all is in the fault of Take Two not being able to support a full effort. lol..but what do I know.

Greg and JEff have been around since the beginning i believe. They have been the little engine that could for years now. Do you know how difficult it is to even try to put up your fists against EA? Baskeball they are dominating. Hockey according to the sim heads is turning that corner into something really nice. I seen it in MLB last year even though the game was pretty rough.

VC is damned good at what they do. Sure sometimes they get things wrong. Just like NBA2K10. It had some issues, but if you sit back and look at what they did with this years game and what they all put into it. Thats no easy feat. NBA today thing is a thing of genius and should be in EVERY sports game.

[rspencer86]

Quote: Originally Posted by kcxiv

Greg and JEff have been around since the beginning i believe. They have been the little engine that could for years now. Do you know how difficult it is to even try to put up your fists against EA? Baskeball they are dominating. Hockey according to the sim heads is turning that corner into something really nice. I seen it in MLB last year even though the game was pretty rough. VC is damned good at what they do. Sure sometimes they get things wrong. Just like NBA2K10. It had some issues, but if you sit back and look at what they did with this years game and what they all put into it. Thats no easy feat. NBA today thing is a thing of genius and should be in EVERY sports game.

If VC was given resources that were even close to being adequate, EA would be in a heap of trouble as far as comparative quality IMO.

[Trevytrev11]

Quote: Originally Posted by jkra0512

No it's not the same. I am saying think twice before choosing the road that has a lot of criminal activity on it, because they are essentially "asking for it" if they do walk down without taking the necessary precautions.* If 2k repeatedly sold you crap year after year, then that person is either dumb or they don't care. As a consumer you have to pick up on that, make an informed decision and not blindly buy the game only to look back and complain about it year after year afterward. 2K is wrong in every facet here, but we consumers are also at fault for enabling this YEAR AFTER YEAR... *(Not calling 2k criminal, just going with the analogy presented)

It's the whole basis for the "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me"

The precedent has been set and anyone who blindly buys the game assuming quality, when it hasn't been for four years, has no one to blame but themselves.