Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

[themassacre771.1]

31 pages, going strong

[RynoAid]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

No knock to GameChangers and Community Day attendees, but this is exactly why I dont trust their previews or initial impressions. Ive been to a few CDs and its very difficult to see through all the presentations and the excitement of playing a new game. Its hard to remember or even think of key questions like Editing when you are looking at the new features. Also there is no guarantee that the developers will give you a straight answer.

we did not even see CCM in February, and then we saw a very raw version in May. It's hard to know exactly what you can and can't do online at that point. There is no real online environment at CD, so basically your looking at all the new features in offline type environment. I don't do much roster or player editing so i was more focused on the CCM mode as a whole.

I'm an online gamer for the most part, so i see it as two huge steps forward with a small stumble back. Once you start messing with the XP in a CCM all the ratings are changing anyways. I understand the equipment aspect, but the ratings is something that will be dynamic inside the CCM... so I'm ok with that part for now.

Hopefully it's something they will address though, as a large portion of the community really love to edit their rosters.. that's for sure.

[Yeats]

Quote: Originally Posted by PPerfect_CJ

The fact that this thread jumped to 30 pages in just under 16 hours should tell Looman that this isn't just a "small issue."

Heh, a few dozen OS posters does not a consumer base make.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by RynoAid

we did not even see CCM in February, and then we saw a very raw version in May. It's hard to know exactly what you can and can't do online at that point. There is no real online environment at CD, so basically your looking at all the new features in offline type environment. I don't do much roster or player editing so i was more focused on the CCM mode as a whole. I'm an online gamer for the most part, so i see it as two huge steps forward with a small stumble back. Once you start messing with the XP in a CCM all the ratings are changing anyways. I understand the equipment aspect, but the ratings is something that will be dynamic inside the CCM... so I'm ok with that part. Hopefully it's something they will address

I will say if no one in that entire group thought to question the effect CCM would have on Franchise...EA needs to select a more diverse group of GCs. Not just all people who play online or tournament players. The minute I saw these changes the first thing I thought was "Multiplayer franchise?....Edits?...NCAA import?" Why? Because I dont play online and my focus is offline franchise.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yeats

CC is franchise mode. It's unreasonable IMO to think they should have included two separate franchise modes. A more relevent question would be why didn't they include some sort of single season mode, without all the franchise stuff? That way one could still edit rosters and use them offline in some capacity other than play now mode. Because nobody will waste their time editing rosters for play now mode, that's just insulting.

Exactly. Season mode wouldve saved this game in my eyes. I've played a ton of games in the past with a stripped down season mode that allows you to edit and use multiple teams while having a single player franchise. I think thats the way Fifa and NHL are right now.

[RynoAid]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

I will say if no one in that entire group thought to question the effect CCM would have on Franchise...EA needs to select a more diverse group of GCs. Not just all people who play online or tournament players. The minute I saw these changes the first thing I thought was "Multiplayer franchise?....Edits?...NCAA import?" Why? Because I dont play online and my focus is offline franchise.

we asked about several of those.. but like I said, when told some made it, some didn't, some might.. all you can do is express what you think is important when considering the whole feature set. It's give and take at some point.

[ajimithing]

Don't get me wrong - I am beyond pissed that we can't edit players in CC. I am one of those gamers that spends as much time editing as I do playing.

I am even more frustrated that you cant import draft classes from NCAA though. I love playing those two games simultaneously and being able to bring my players from the NCAA game over to my Madden franchise. Brings a lot of realism with the connection between the games (funny that the new feature is called Connected Careers when it is disconnecting their two major football titles). The fact that starting in season 2 I am going to be playing with fake rookies is a deal breaker for me.

For example, I'm a huge Tennessee fan and really excited to see where Tyler Bray and Justin Hunter go in the NFL. I'd be excited to try to trade up in the draft to take one of them and play my franchise with them. Now I don't have that chance and will have to play with Henry Winkenbacher as my QB of the future. C'mon EA!!!!

Im gonna stick to Madden 12 since you can have full editing controls. Only thing I'll be missing out on past year one is the real schedule. I'd rather play a phony schedule for one year than not have the ability to edit.

[RynoAid]

Quote: Originally Posted by ajimithing

The fact that starting in season 2 I am going to be playing with fake rookies is a deal breaker for me. Im gonna stick to Madden 12 since you can have full editing controls. Only thing I'll be missing out on past year one is the real schedule. I'd rather play a phony schedule for one year than not have the ability to edit.

I get the frustration, but your going to ignore all the other enhancements made to the game and stick to 12 because of ONE draft class? I mean sure you might get 2 that are somewhat accurate, but after that.. it would be all guessing and subjective ratings at best.

How many seasons do you play in a franchise? Hopefully it's upwards of 5 or 6 at least... so you will be mixing if fake rookies all over the place soon enough anyways.

You have to put it on a scale and weigh it out.. i still think the new features outweigh a draft class or two.. no? And the draft class import never really worked well in translating ratings and such IMO.

I'm not making excuses, it's obvious they had to choose what to put in and what to take out. They rebuilt the whole mode.. some 80+ new screens.