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Old 06-07-2009, 03:44 PM   #169
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1 more thing...

DLineman should have individual ratings such as what i stated before with, swim moves, spin moves, power moves, run stuffing, speed rushing from edge, power, pass rushing strength, shedding blocks, player requires consistent double teaming, etc.

So guys like D. Freeney will have speed rushing as well as a high spin move rating but that is basically it. C. Hampton will have high power moves, strength, and run stuffing abilities. Guys like old M. Strahan would have it all... This would add to the defensive line play and make it realistic. I realize that this might be something for madden 11 though?! Each player (DL) should have individual ratings...

What do you guys think?
Finesse/Power move basically fits all that you named into 2 ratings saving space.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:31 PM   #170
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If the physics work properly, and guys are taking the correct angles, you should not need to cheat.

Is there a speed cheat in the real NFL? No. Well then how come no one just runs the sweep all day? Because there are many ways to stop it without being superhuman. Run support assignments need to work. Momentum needs to work for both the ball carrier and the defender.

You can't catch a pass or take a pitch without slowing down to secure the ball. That gives the defense a step or two to catch up. Difficulty should be increased by making the LBs recognize the play more quickly, pursue more efficiently, and make use of their DL and the sideline to funnel ball carriers to them. The DL needs to penetrate weaker blockers, set the edge, and cut off the rushing lanes. That's how real football works.
Ratings are ratings. To get the items you suggested to work you're altering ratings. All of which make the game less realistic because players are playing above their ability in one area or another. If you're going to allow unrealistic ratings for the other skills then why prejudice against speed? From my perspective, it's all the same. Ratings are ratings, and skills are skills. Once you start mucking around with the skill ratings to make the game more difficult, it's no longer realistic, so why introduce an unnecessary artificial constraint on how that difficulty is increased?
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:52 PM   #171
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Ratings are ratings. To get the items you suggested to work you're altering ratings. All of which make the game less realistic because players are playing above their ability in one area or another. If you're going to allow unrealistic ratings for the other skills then why prejudice against speed? From my perspective, it's all the same. Ratings are ratings, and skills are skills. Once you start mucking around with the skill ratings to make the game more difficult, it's no longer realistic, so why introduce an unnecessary artificial constraint on how that difficulty is increased?
Better to mess around with ratings than to mess around with physics. The adjustments should be to how smart the players are, and how good their technique is, not how strong or fast they are. That's the difference.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:46 PM   #172
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Better to mess around with ratings than to mess around with physics. The adjustments should be to how smart the players are, and how good their technique is, not how strong or fast they are. That's the difference.
Agreed! Game speed doesn't always equal out to 40 times... all the above is a factor as well...
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Old 06-08-2009, 12:09 AM   #173
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I know we should have 3 new defenses in our book. One is shared by a few other teams. As adem pointed out in the run blocking video. Ware is down in a 3 point stance, but it is the 3-4 defense. They are calling it Predator. I can't say the other two just yet, but we share these two with only 1 other team. I wonder if they will do a blog on it.

i am optimistic about the jets chances of being the other team.
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More good news for Madden, I hope they don't blow it like they always do.
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Thanks for all the hard work, I can't wait for the finished product!

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More good news for Madden, I hope they don't blow it like they always do.
It's nice to see your positive attitude!!!
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