Madden NFL 10: PRO-TAK - What's NOT There Yet...

[hmoob]

Quote: Originally Posted by adembroski

No... in the vernacular of this forum, "SIM" refers to realism. Not perception. You can have realism no matter where you put the camera or how you focus the audio. Flying tackles and glowing balls are still arcade. If Madden had it, no matter how deep the playbooks or where the camera was, it would be arcade. If BackBreaker was the most realistic depiction of football in history and put the cameras low on the field and blew up the player-perspective audio, it'd be sim. Backbreaker is not a sim. I'm not saying it's necessarily arcade... it may very well be something new, all its own, and thats never a bad thing. I think this is where you are getting confused; I don't like the glowing ball or the flying tackles, but I never once said I had any problem with Backbreaker or hoped it would fail or even thought it would. I can't wait to get my hands on it, actually, and it may very well end up being extremely addictive. But they have earned nothing. They deserve nothing. When I have a game in my hands that makes me pine for it while I'm at work, I'll praise 'em. Not before. Madden 10 has already done that for me.

It's clear this is isn't going anywhere.

You're bias is clear and I can understand that. You've been given special privledges by the Madden team therefore it's natural for a average human being like you to have an emotional connection towards them and favor them, and your logic gets clouded, the hype takes over. It's ok though, You'll buy BB just like me.

I wouldn't be surprised if you forced yourself to play Madden (assuming Madden fails) just to support EA with your time.

[RGiles36]

Quote: Originally Posted by adembroski

They'd still post here. Many of them are not interested in actually talking about BackBreaker, they just want something to compare Madden negatively too.

+1

BTW, good stuff Ian. It's comforting to know that there's still some critical work going into PRO-TAK to make it look better.

[jjdogjjdog5162]

Quote: Originally Posted by adembroski

They'd still post here. They're not interested in actually talking about BackBreaker, they just want something to compare Madden negatively too.

True. I just dont understand it. I love football games, and have been watching backbreaker, but im not going to say anything about it after a few short videos on tackling. I've went to their forum and tried to sift through the info to find anything about it being "sim" or franchise, or rules, or amount of teams, or gameplay in general, yet im not finding anything.

Maybe im looking at the wrong place, but i dont know how you could start comparing the game with a established franchise after what, 5 videos? And all they show is tackles and 1 pass.

On to the topic of this thread, im excited to actually see try pro-tak with all this stuff implemented. I like what i have seen so far, and these things make it sound like its only going to be getting better and better. One thing that excites me is hearing that the play can be called dead like in real life. Thats a "little" thing that i would of never of thought of. That will help with the immersion factor. Something madden has been missing for me for along time.

[tron8]

Sounds like the final product will be awesome

[speedy9386]

Why everytime I say something nobody listens? I said THE DEVS SAID THAT THE GLOWING BALL IS JUST A TRACKING SYSTEM ON REPLAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hmoob]

Hey, if we get a BB board on OS, I would never post here. What I think would happen is that many Madden fanboys would come over there.

[hmoob]

Quote: Originally Posted by speedy9386

Why everytime I say something nobody listens? I said THE DEVS SAID THAT THE GLOWING BALL IS JUST A TRACKING SYSTEM ON REPLAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like I said speedy, Madden fanboys ignore any information non-Madden related.

[Unforgiven]

Wow, there is a nice sum of fanboyism in here. If you don't like what BB has to offer, then DON'T PLAY IT. If you don't like what Madden has to offer, then DON'T PLAY IT. I don't see why this has to expand, and eventually begin to derail a thread such as this. Can we move on, and talk on topic for once, please?

Anyways, from what I understand, Pro-tak will become less of a struggle, and more of who is the biggest guy that can jump in..?

And I'd like to see it where someone can come in at full speed, and lay a huge hit on the ball carrier. I'd hope that its not just going to be a few steps from side to side every single time. I'd also like to see some ball stripping animations in there to, like Urlacher always seems to do when there is a slew of defenders standing up the ball carrier.