Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

[ravens52bears54]

Quote: Originally Posted by d_max

These patches sound fantastic. Unfortunately I won't have xbox live any time soon, is there another way for me to acquire these patches?? You can PM me with the answer if you want as I will probably lose track of my post in this huge thread, haha... Thanks

And her lies the main problem with patching. While I think these patches are great to fix game concerns what about the thousands upon thousands of people that are not connected online? They are screwed. They paid $60 for an admittedly broken game. Some of these issues people are talking about are glaring issues that never should've made it through Q&A.

Quote: Originally Posted by servo75

Who gives a damn what M$ & $ony think?? Why do you need their permission to release the DLC?

Like SoxFan said M$and Sony have the final say so. And while it seems that Sony is more content with letting the developers pick the pricing (no I'm not starting a flame war, I'll give a few examples...) M$ has been publicly critcized by the developers themselves for gouging prices. Does anyone remember the debacle with Gears of War? I don't claim to be an Epic expert but from what I've read they apparently seem to be a very customer focused company. They wanted to release their first DLC map pack for the game for free but M$ refused to let them because they knew what a cash cow the game was. The two sides argued for quite a bit but because M$ had the final say it was there decision to make. Once the info about the argument leaked they had to save face a bit so they agreed to allow the maps to be free after a six month (or something like that) time frame. Epic decided to release Unreal Tourney 3 on the PS3 first because they felt they could reach the customers better that way. So far they have released a map pack that is still totally free.
Another recent example is with the Draft Tracker and Stat Tracker downloads for the EA Fantasy Football add-on. Initially the Draft Tracker was free on PS3 and later changed to .99 cents. The Stat Tracker is also .99 cents. How much are they on the 360? $5 each. Now you tell me how that discrepancy makes any sense?

I could go on all day about how overall M$ doesn't give two craps about the consumer but I leave it at this. And before anyone attacks me I own both a 360 and a PS3, and a Wii for that matter. I just call it like I see it.

[SoxFan01605]

Quote: Originally Posted by ravens52bears54

And her lies the main problem with patching. While I think these patches are great to fix game concerns what about the thousands upon thousands of people that are not connected online? They are screwed. They paid $60 for an admittedly broken game. Some of these issues people are talking about are glaring issues that never should've made it through Q&A. Like SoxFan said M$and Sony have the final say so. And while it seems that Sony is more content with letting the developers pick the pricing (no I'm not starting a flame war, I'll give a few examples...) M$ has been publicly critcized by the developers themselves for gouging prices. Does anyone remember the debacle with Gears of War? I don't claim to be an Epic expert but from what I've read they apparently seem to be a very customer focused company. They wanted to release their first DLC map pack for the game for free but M$ refused to let them because they knew what a cash cow the game was. The two sides argued for quite a bit but because M$ had the final say it was there decision to make. Once the info about the argument leaked they had to save face a bit so they agreed to allow the maps to be free after a six month (or something like that) time frame. Epic decided to release Unreal Tourney 3 on the PS3 first because they felt they could reach the customers better that way. So far they have released a map pack that is still totally free. Another recent example is with the Draft Tracker and Stat Tracker downloads for the EA Fantasy Football add-on. Initially the Draft Tracker was free on PS3 and later changed to .99 cents. The Stat Tracker is also .99 cents. How much are they on the 360? $5 each. Now you tell me how that discrepancy makes any sense? I could go on all day about how overall M$ doesn't give two craps about the consumer but I leave it at this. And before anyone attacks me I own both a 360 and a PS3, and a Wii for that matter. I just call it like I see it.

You're absolutely right, and it was things like this that I referenced. MS has been accused by several gaming companies for trying to gouge the prices. I fully understand the "he said/she said" aspect to it but, generally speaking, where there's smoke- there's fire. All of this is moot of course if Sony is cooporative, as I'm fairly sure MS wouldn't push the money issue (if there will even be one) THAT far. Fair or unfair, this is a business with multiple parties involved...the least of which is the consumer (that's not meant to come of as cynical as it may sound, but there is only so much that we, and even Ian really, count for in those types of scenarios). Anyway, all this is just speculation until something more concrete is confirmed.

[ravens52bears54]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxFan01605

You're absolutely right, and it was things like this that I referenced. MS has been accused by several gaming companies for trying to gouge the prices. I fully understand the "he said/she said" aspect to it but, generally speaking, where there's smoke- there's fire. All of this is moot of course if Sony is cooporative, as I'm fairly sure MS wouldn't push the money issue (if there will even be one) THAT far. Fair or unfair, this is a business with multiple parties involved...the least of which is the consumer (that's not meant to come of as cynical as it may sound, but there is only so much that we, and even Ian really, count for in those types of scenarios). Anyway, all this is just speculation until something more concrete is confirmed.

I missed the info on the DLC for Madden. What is it allegedly supposed to consist of?

[Bat]

Quote: Originally Posted by bluengold34

Well, maybe it's not possessed then. Hopefully someone can confirm they got it also with the 360, or not. Anyways Brother, I appreciate you taking the time to check at least.

Weird I had the same thing happen tonight. I got on Madden and it made me download a update. I already had the first patch, and haven't cleared my hd or anything.

The only thing I did differently was play GOW for the first time in a VERY long time and it too made me download a update.. so dunno. If my machine just craves them.

[bdawkins20]

My apologies if this has been posted in this thread, but I did not have the time to sift thru 47+ pages of posts -When are the patch(es) for Madden 2009 due out?

Thank you.

Have an enjoyable Holiday!

[BenjiA]

I need that patch NOW!!

[ravens52bears54]

Quote: Originally Posted by bdawkins20

My apologies if this has been posted in this thread, but I did not have the time to sift thru 47+ pages of posts -When are the patch(es) for Madden 2009 due out? Thank you. Have an enjoyable Holiday!

It's in the first post. Ian said it should be out in three weeks (hopefully) from the date of the post which was 08/26.

[brendanrfoley]

Quote: Originally Posted by ravens52bears54

I missed the info on the DLC for Madden. What is it allegedly supposed to consist of?

It's in the first post of this thread, my friend.