Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (10/28)

[fistofrage]

Quote: Originally Posted by Millennium

1, like exactly 1? Come on FOR - as a slider maker I know you put more weight into stats than that. Prior to this update I was seeing an average in my Bucs franchise (of which I am in Week 8 on default All Madden except Fatigue at 60 and penalties all at 51) of 2.3 a game (for both teams). According to current stats, that is just about in line: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/fumbles-per-game

I'm not sure that you read my post correctly. I get less than 1 non-qb fumble per game on average. I really only play play now. Rarely see the strip animation part of that fumble. It's usually by a big hit.

[Millennium]

Quote: Originally Posted by fistofrage

I'm not sure that you read my post correctly. I get less than 1 non-qb fumble per game on average. I really only play play now. Rarely see the strip animation part of that fumble. It's usually by a big hit.

I read it correctly, but I was expecting an exact stat. That's the issue here: You're telling me "I get less than 1" but it sounds like that is what you feel like you're getting, not what you've recorded.

I'd love to see what you get over a 10 game period.

[Sturzinator]

Ok, I'll bite, since the defense is already in full court press.

Last 8 games, 6 non QB fumbles. That's .75 per game. This is without anything applied (patches or tuners) since title update #2 (big patch).

All Madden fumble 28 tackle 35 fatigue 63.

Not enough, and it won't be helped with the recent patches/tuners.

[underdog13]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sturzinator

Ok, I'll bite, since the defense is already in full court press. Last 8 games, 6 non QB fumbles. That's .75 per game. This is without anything applied (patches or tuners) since title update #2 (big patch). All Madden fumble 28 tackle 35 fatigue 63. Not enough, and it won't be helped with the recent patches/tuners.

Maybe cause tackle is so low?

[RogueHominid]

What does the bit about RAC catches mean?

[Sturzinator]

Quote: Originally Posted by underdog13

Maybe cause tackle is so low?

Maybe, but then I want to play football not WWE.

It begs the question of why we have a fumble slider if it does nothing to affect the number of fumbles we get (from players other than QB).

[Devildog Frank]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sturzinator

Maybe, but then I want to play football not WWE. It begs the question of why we have a fumble slider if it does nothing to affect the number of fumbles we get (from players other than QB).

I have to completely agree with you Sturz. I want tackling to look like and play like tackling, not some off the top rope hit in the WWE. Its not easy to bring down most of the RB's and TE's in the NFL with a one on one tackle, especially by a smaller LB, OR 170 lb DB, unless there is a good wrap around the lower leg tackle used.

[Sturzinator]

Quote: Originally Posted by Devildog Frank

I have to completely agree with you Sturz. I want tackling to look like and play like tackling, not some off the top rope hit in the WWE. Its not easy to bring down most of the RB's and TE's in the NFL with a one on one tackle, especially by a smaller LB, OR 170 lb DB, unless there is a good wrap around the lower leg tackle used.

True.

The problem with further reducing the fumble side of the equation is that instead of procuring more non QB fumbles:

1. It causes an increase to the already obnoxious amount of QB fumbles and strip sacks.

2. It indirectly causes RBs to run less effectively, utilizing fewer of their special moves (jukes, spins, etc)