NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360 & PS3)

[RealmK]

Quote: Originally Posted by NYwRiter94

You really feel they are the same? I play the game and I get bounces I never had in NHL 09. I really don't feel that it's added on. You can instantly enter and leave it, it doesn't change any camera angle and it looks like a normal part of the game. I agree with this. This part wasn't done very well. Yeah, I guess. NHL 2K9's fighting was realistic? Two punch options, no block option, and you're wrong, it did change the camera angle. I haven't noticed any cann-iness in the animations.

Agreed on all points. Honestly I really LIKE fighting in 10, and I can deal with the removal of other players/refs on the ice for framerate reasons. You can block, jostle for advantage, pull the opposing fighter forward to sneak a shot in. It actually resembles real NHL fighting and if people gave it half a chance rather than just say "its stupid its a gimmick" they might see that.

Not sure what Fudge means with his boardplay comment, its not like its a mini game, or pulls you out of the game, its fluid, it works wonders on the forecheck and adds a huge real life element that was missing from the game.

I've seen a few people talk of the supposidly "forced" or "pseudo" puck physics as well, which almost comes off to me as people refuse to let go of the stigma that gameplay in an EA Sports game has to be scripted. I've seen all sorts of bounces that turn into goals just on the demo that would have never remotely been chances let alone scores last year. Perhaps the puck could roll on edge more and those people would be happy I don't know, but to say the puck physics aren't an improvement over last year is flat out wrong.

One last thing, I really don't understand the whole "the game isn't like I expected it would be" With all the info, media, raw footage, inteviews etc etc we've gotten since E3 what did you guys expect? Seperate Human/Cpu sliders and more of them. The gameplay itself is improved big time, the'res improvements to BAP and EASHL, and dynasty mode has been rebuilt from the ground up. What more did you want really? Bout the only thing missing is 2k style arena's and more presentation options. I think I can deal another year with all the improvements that actually did make it in this year.

[onlybygrace]

Quote: Originally Posted by RealmK

Agreed on all points. Honestly I really LIKE fighting in 10, and I can deal with the removal of other players/refs on the ice for framerate reasons. You can block, jostle for advantage, pull the opposing fighter forward to sneak a shot in. It actually resembles real NHL fighting and if people gave it half a chance rather than just say "its stupid its a gimmick" they might see that. Not sure what Fudge means with his boardplay comment, its not like its a mini game, or pulls you out of the game, its fluid, it works wonders on the forecheck and adds a huge real life element that was missing from the game. I've seen a few people talk of the supposidly "forced" or "pseudo" puck physics as well, which almost comes off to me as people refuse to let go of the stigma that gameplay in an EA Sports game has to be scripted. I've seen all sorts of bounces that turn into goals just on the demo that would have never remotely been chances let alone scores last year. Perhaps the puck could roll on edge more and those people would be happy I don't know, but to say the puck physics aren't an improvement over last year is flat out wrong. One last thing, I really don't understand the whole "the game isn't like I expected it would be" With all the info, media, raw footage, inteviews etc etc we've gotten since E3 what did you guys expect? Seperate Human/Cpu sliders and more of them. The gameplay itself is improved big time, the'res improvements to BAP and EASHL, and dynasty mode has been rebuilt from the ground up. What more did you want really? Bout the only thing missing is 2k style arena's and more presentation options. I think I can deal another year with all the improvements that actually did make it in this year.

Agreed...

Those who say this game is no different than 09 are absolute fools, IMO. I traded in 09 after a month...HATED it. NHL 10 may be the best game I've ever played.

Bad puck physics...pft...yeah ok.

[dorismary]

Ok ,
I played the demo maybe 50 times and really like the gameplay and IMO it plays a great game of realistic hockey just like watching a real game.
I love how players play like themselves and im even liking the new passing .
I dont agree with a few who complained about cpu tic tac toe passing as I have been able to break up many plays with good smart defense .
I really see myself playing this game right out of the box with very little sliders adjustment .
My only real disappointment is still the fighting and thought it would have been better implemented especially with all the PR EA gave it .
Well for the first time since 2k3 I see myself playing real and Video game hockey well into June !
Thanks for getting it right EA , gameplay first and then like MLB the show add on all the extras and little touches for years to come !

[RealmK]

Quote: Originally Posted by dorismary

Ok , I played the demo maybe 50 times and really like the gameplay and IMO it plays a great game of realistic hockey just like watching a real game. I love how players play like themselves and im even liking the new passing . I dont agree with a few who complained about cpu tic tac toe passing as I have been able to break up many plays with good smart defense . I really see myself playing this game right out of the box with very little sliders adjustment . My only real disappointment is still the fighting and thought it would have been better implemented especially with all the PR EA gave it . Well for the first time since 2k3 I see myself playing real and Video game hockey well into June ! Thanks for getting it right EA , gameplay first and then like MLB the show add on all the extras and little touches for years to come !

Agree, cept I actually like the fighting. I don't think I'll be making alot of slider tweaks either. Lowering cpu passing accuracy, bumping the fatigue effect while lowering fatigue recovery and maxing the attribute effect slider and maybe a tweak to tenders but I want to see how the retail plays out of the box first before messing with tender sliders too much. Like I said upon first playing the demo, the gameplay itself feels alot like 2k3's and I still feel that way, except without 2k3's super goalies.

[dorismary]

Quote: Originally Posted by RealmK

Agree, cept I actually like the fighting. I don't think I'll be making alot of slider tweaks either. Lowering cpu passing accuracy, bumping the fatigue effect while lowering fatigue recovery and maxing the attribute effect slider and maybe a tweak to tenders but I want to see how the retail plays out of the box first before messing with tender sliders too much. Like I said upon first playing the demo, the gameplay itself feels alot like 2k3's and I still feel that way, except without 2k3's super goalies.

To be fair I really havent given the fighting alot of effort as it turned me off pretty quickly but ill study up and try some more .
Dont mean to gush but if the final plays like the demo I will be very .
It just looks and play so much like the Real NHL did you notice the difference in players
Pretty cool huh ?

[RealmK]

Quote: Originally Posted by dorismary

To be fair I really havent given the fighting alot of effort as it turned me off pretty quickly but ill study up and try some more . Dont mean to gush but if the final plays like the demo I will be very . It just looks and play so much like the Real NHL did you notice the difference in players Pretty cool huh ?

Yeah there is a bit of player differentation which I hope to see more of with that player attribute slider maxed out. Its much easier to deke with guys like Crosby or Hossa and retain the puck vs someone like Hudler who if you try and deke too quickly you're more apt for the puck to roll off your stick. Much better than how its been the last couple years imo.

[18 eighty 5]

I haven't had a powerplay play in sooooo many games now. Arrghh come on sliders!

One thing I reckon does make a difference is the fighting. Fighting seems to give some momentum and can add to gameplay opportunities...however, I do agree that mapping the fight option to the boardpin button can be frustrating. I try to use the brawlers to set the tone but I get called for holding penalties that don't lead to a fight!?!?

It is frustrating me that the cpu never gets called for a penalty either. I try and rough it it for a fight and get a bad deal...hmmm. I hope this can be addressed somehow in the retail game.

I tell you what, if you do not use boardplay, nhl 10 will seem like 09, I love sending the puck into the oppositions zone to scrap it out but timing is crucial otherwise the cpu walk away with the puck.

One last thing I am not to happy with is when the goalie goes behind his net to control the puck and the pass sensitivity all too often sends a soft pass behind the net and the cpu can be all over it. The goalie goes for the puck automatically and can be under some close attention and when he passes a goofy soft pass it just seems unfair. The pass sensitivity thing needs work.

When I get the game I am jacking up cpu pass ineffectiveness and cpu penalties and hopefully there may be a difference. At the minute without sliders the pass sensitivity only seems to disadvantage the human.

[dorismary]

I dont know what level you play on but I have seen plenty of PP all in realistic fashion including a few 5 min PP ?
To draw PP you gotta frustrate the cpu not everything is shoot or breakaways , rotate and cycle the biscuit , skill / talent tends to draw more just like in the NHL .
Well back to gameplay I started trying different things my latest was rushing Lebda on the attack and it was awesome how the cpu reacted like saying your kidding and just attacked him for a easy turnover .
Im really liking the logic and trying to breakdown Det when your on the PP is a challenge but so lifelike.
I was also impressed when 5 or 6 guys all went for the puck on the boards by the blueline it ended quickly but it was very natural .
Nothing feels cheap or scripted in this demo which I really admire in a sports game