NCAA Football 10 Blog: The Rebirth of the Flexbone Offense

[zoltan]

Quote: Originally Posted by J-Unit40

Let's look at reality here. Florida is one of the best programs in the country and Navy is well, Navy. I still think the flexbone is cool. Look what GT did to UGA, Miami and FSU this year.

first of all the only thing different in the gators playbook then any other playbook is gator heavy and slot f trips. they sucked at making the florida/ oregon/ WVU playbooks.

the only readon the flexbone got an update is because of what GT did with it.......... if GT would have sucked this year instead of beating good teams like georgia and stuff my guess is we wouldnt have seen nearly as much updates.

im glad for the flexbone, but i think spread option needs a WAY bigger overhaul.

[matelee]

smooth! NCAA looks like it might be the sports game to beat again!

[Sven Draconian]

The QB/FB mesh is way to fast. Thats been a problem in NCAA for a while now. The QB (even in Mocap) wasn't "reading" he just sorta sticks the ball there and then pulls the ball out. This is part of the reason the option has been effective, its run entirely too fast. If a team tried to mesh that fast in real life there would be fumbles all over the place.

They also didn't address the issues on the counter plays.

Basically, they added Rocket and Jet...woohoo. Still broken.

[zoltan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sven Draconian

The QB/FB mesh is way to fast. Thats been a problem in NCAA for a while now. The QB (even in Mocap) wasn't "reading" he just sorta sticks the ball there and then pulls the ball out. This is part of the reason the option has been effective, its run entirely too fast. If a team tried to mesh that fast in real life there would be fumbles all over the place. They also didn't address the issues on the counter plays. Basically, they added Rocket and Jet...woohoo. Still broken.

have you seen the way the GTU reads in real life....... so fast.

i think they did a pretty good job, the counter plays are for shotgun teams i was told.. expect them to be announced in the shotgun blog if we have one.

[dman1976]

I hope robo QB is gone

[Sven Draconian]

Quote: Originally Posted by zoltan

have you seen the way the GTU reads in real life....... so fast. i think they did a pretty good job, the counter plays are for shotgun teams i was told.. expect them to be announced in the shotgun blog if we have one.

Check out 1:25 for the best true triple (I think theres one at 1:10 as well, but I can't tell if its a triple).

It's quick, but it's not instant.

[J.R. Locke]

Quote: Originally Posted by razcan

I love them updating it but it definitely should not have been a priority. Flexbone accounts for what 2.3% of all real life NCAA plays in any given season? Playbook wise flexbone should near the bottom of the list.

But all the other playbooks are essentially the same. The flexbone and wishbone are offensive schemes that include different line splits, different uses for the QB,FB,RB.

To me there are essentially 4 types of offense in the NCAA

Pro Style - I, Ace, (Wisconsin, USC)
College Spread - Shotgun, QB ride options (West Virginia, Michigan)
Pass Spread - All those teams chucking it aroun (texas Tech, hawaii)
Flexbone/Wishbone - Ga Tech, Navy

The thing that separates these offenses is that they have distinctly different approaches. Otherwise most plays in shotgun formation could be interchanged between the top 3. Where as none could be interchanged between the flexbone and the shotgun spreads.

[stylee]

Shotgun option teams and under-center option teams use the same principles on many plays.

WV, Florida, and Wofford all run veer option from shotgun to varying degrees.

Load and speed options are present in both.

Simple, non-option trap plays.

But what really gets me about people saying "Oh, this only concern flexbone users" is that the principle of using unblocked defenders to make reads is used as an integral part of both the veer triple that flex, wishbone, and I-option teams run AND the zone read from shotgun that is the bread and butter of shotgun option teams.


And even the Pass Spread teams often have distinctly different approaches...Texas Tech and Hawaii being prime examples of how different Pass Spread teams can be.