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The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

As we attempt to wait patiently for March 28 to finally get here so we can dive into MLB The Show 17 ourselves and see how this year’s game measures up, we’ve been treated to the usual series of developer streams in the meantime to whet our appetite ahead of its release. While it may be impossible to gauge the game’s components without actually holding a controller in our hands and feeling how things actually play, that’s not going to stop us from making some snap judgments based on everything that we’ve seen so far. Here are the three best and worst things we’ve noticed in our initial impressions of the highly anticipated release.

The Good

Ball Physics

From everything we’ve seen and heard so far, it looks as if we will have considerably more dynamic and unique balls flying off the bats in The Show this year. With claims that there are literally thousands of types of hits to be found and that we could even play the game for a full year and still be seeing new types of hits that we haven’t witnessed yet, it’s apparent that a lot of work has been done in this department.

That means we will get balls curving down the line instead of the straight path we’ve become accustomed to seeing, and Texas Leaguer bloops that are destined to be exciting when they happen for us and absolutely infuriating when they happen against us. It seems like there might actually even be balls hit down the line that carom awkwardly off the wall and go as the doubles they would realistically be rather than bouncing right to outfielders for long singles as they frustratingly have done in the past.



Humanity AI

There are few moments more maddening in The Show than when your shortstop fields a ball hit by a speedy player and proceeds to take his sweet time getting the ball over to first to throw him out, allowing the batter to reach base safely. Finally, it looks as if those days might be over with the introduction of humanity AI that will see fielders recognize who is running down the line and react with a corresponding amount of alacrity in getting the ball to first base.

On the other hand, the same feature hopes to rectify the perfect lines computer fielders would often take in getting to the ball, as if they were aware ahead of time of the exact spot the ball would end up. This should mean more realistic responses from sub-par fielders that result in fielders sometimes taking poor angles to balls that end up going over their heads or falling in front of them -- where in previous years they would routinely vacuum up every ball they had even just the slightest chance of reaching.

Reliever Fatigue And Playing Out Of Position

It often seems as if making a version of The Show that’s suitable for online play is a constant battle in staying one step ahead of the ploys some people will use in order to win games. One of the most popular moves from those trying to take advantage of the system is bringing in a dominant reliever like Aroldis Chapman or Andrew Miller as early as the 6th or 7th and pitching him for 2 or 3 innings because the consequences of doing so weren’t exactly dire. This year, however, promises to be different as pushing a pitcher beyond his stamina should result in either hitting the batter, throwing a pitch outside the strike zone or a meatball right down the heart of the plate.

Another tactic used by many that value winning over sportsmanship was playing someone outside of a position they typically play because the loss in fielding ability was not as severe as it should have been. But this will be something that can’t be exploited this year, as we have learned the penalty for playing someone out of position will be much worse than it has been in the past. So there should be no more plugging A-Rod in behind the plate as catcher and not suffering the consequences.



The Bad


Retro Mode

I’m sure there’s an audience out there for Retro Mode, but I’m just not as certain that I am in that group. Likely designed to try and draw new fans to the game that played baseball video games in the past but find jumping into The Show to be a little bit intimidating, it’s hard not to see Retro Mode for exactly what it is -- a step into the past rather than a look ahead to the future. If stripping the game down to its barest essentials in an attempt to conjure some nostalgia hardly seems like a capital crime, you'd be safe in that assumption. Still, I would be more interested in seeing them invest their time in something more unique than this mode that's been tried in other sports games with limited success.

Now it’s entirely possible that I will be eating these words once I’ve given Retro Mode a chance and all those memories of Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball come flooding back, but I’m willing to bet those of us who buy The Show year after year hoping for progression rather than regression will be left scratching our heads wondering why this was even a thing in the first place.

Diamond Dynasty Pitcher Handedness Mystery

Yes, it’s obviously annoying to play against teams in Diamond Dynasty who immediately back out of a game once they find out they are facing a left-handed pitcher, but removing the ability to see whether you are facing a lefty or righty can’t help but come across as a counterproductive way to resolve this issue. Wouldn’t it make more sense to simply punish anyone who abandons a game when they find out they don’t match up well with the opposition with a loss rather than re-work the entire system in such a way that flies in the face of how one prepares for a baseball game?

What this does is remove any possibility of having platoons at any given position that can be deployed depending on who is pitching. Ask any baseball manager out there and they will tell you it’s imperative to know the pitcher you are facing before filling out the lineup card. This will naturally lead to teams stacking their roster with switch hitters and their rotation with lefties when they could just as easily allow us to build two separate lineups to remedy the problem instead. As you can see, there were a few different ways this legitimate issue could have been fixed, but the way they decided to do it just feels too much like they punished the people who were playing the game the right way.

Bunt Cheesing



While it would be nice to believe that The Show has solved its bunt cheesing problem once and for all and eliminated online players exploiting the game by being able to bunt their way on base with far more frequency than they realistically should, the streams simply haven’t done quite enough h to alleviate fears among the community. In one of the first streams that offered a sneak peek at the game, an attempt to show how the game has improved in this department sadly led to unskilled bunter Willson Contreras still being able to bunt for a hit more often than not. The Show team quickly went into damage control, insisting that this was largely because fastballs were being thrown right down the middle, but it did little to convince everyone that all of the problems have been solved.

It seems like it should be simple enough for The Show team to put to bed one of the biggest gripes the online community had about the game last year, but the fact that they haven’t done this yet is understandably making people feel a little uneasy. Hilariously, their last attempt to show off how bunting had been suitably nerfed led to the game completely freezing. Given the fact that so many people complained about this problem, and attention has clearly been paid to making sure the issue is no longer as glaring as it was last year, it’s more than likely we’ll find out it wasn’t worth really worrying about. However, until we can see hard evidence of the results of bunting being decidedly different than they were a year ago, we’ll unfortunately just have to reserve judgment for the time being.


Member Comments
# 41 Armor and Sword @ 03/12/17 09:35 AM
Best:

Ball Physics
Humanity AI
Quick Manage and Critical Moments
Expanded Sounds Of The Show Slots
Retro Mode
Revamped player editor and faces
Generated players vastly improved and using real equipment
1000's of new fielding and hitting animations
MLB Network Broadcast Presentation Package
2 new color guys in the booth
Vastly improved franchise menus and U I
TBD Road To The Show improvements Path To Glory


Bad:

Franchise general manager and owner options not expanded this year.


Hell of a batting average right there!

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# 42 Jon Arbuckle @ 03/12/17 11:46 AM
Best:
1 Ball physics
2 Ball physics
3 Ball physics

Worst (in no particular order):
1 Still no rotating IL schedules
2 Still several uni omissions/mistakes, including on the steelbook
3 Nothing else really merits inclusion in a third slot for me yet. Will wait to see what's revealed in the last few streams.

Failure to upgrade Franchise in any meaningful way for long-time players would deserve a spot there but I haven't been playing Franchise for a while so I honestly can't complain. I sympathize with others who feel let down in this department though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TripleCrown9
Oh no, it's such a distraction and takes away so much from the overall aesthetic of the uniform...

Spoiler
So long as MLB does away with closeup shots of their marketable talent, we'll be set!

Seriously though, those caps still look like someone's put gum on the side from afar even if you can't make out the logo. They're an aesthetic disaster, particularly patch caps like those since every side of them now has some kind of branding. The Nascar effect mentioned above is already achieved on those caps.
 
# 43 BigOscar @ 03/12/17 12:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TripleCrown9
So what you rather have had them do in the time (less than a day) it took to implement Retro Mode?
It took less than a day to implement Retro Mode? That's surprising if true as it looks like a fair bit of work. Fair play to them if that's all it took.

It just sticks in the craw a bit because they regularly trot out the "we're a small studio so we don't have the time and people" excuse for not doing things, yet managed to find time to make the gimmick retro mode. If it didn't take any time then fair enough
 
# 44 mlblover15 @ 03/12/17 01:05 PM
I was literally just thinking about something I know it will never happen, but for all games not must sports games.

it would be nice to have two separate game releases. I understand that the world as we know it is not the single player anymore it has become a multiplayer online world. that is where the money is and all that but our single player games have gotten shorter and features are taken away or tweaked in some way.

If there was a way to have two full on games released for all genres one full on fully loaded single player disc and one for all the multiplayer stuff online it would benefit everyone.

Sales would double for game companies and gamers would get everything then want from their games... longer more emmersive games...

because when you split your focus into many different areas and shove them all on one game disc you can't build every aspect of each game as you desire it too be.

this is just my .02 and i have felt this way for a while.. and always will be...
 
# 45 tbook24 @ 03/12/17 01:31 PM
Ken Griffey Jr. baseball type retro mode for a game featuring Ken Griffey Jr. on the cover is a perfect fit. I'll like this mode to go with my rtts.
 
# 46 Caulfield @ 03/12/17 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlblover15


Sales would double for game companies and gamers would get everything then want from their games... longer more emmersive games...
I can agree with a lot of this but I dont believe sales would double at all. I'm sure there would be some who would buy both version, but probably most (including me) would only buy one.
Put me in the offline camp. The only thing I need from online is the roster vault and any patches SCEA put out lol
 
# 47 countryboy @ 03/12/17 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigOscar
It took less than a day to implement Retro Mode? That's surprising if true as it looks like a fair bit of work. Fair play to them if that's all it took.

It just sticks in the craw a bit because they regularly trot out the "we're a small studio so we don't have the time and people" excuse for not doing things, yet managed to find time to make the gimmick retro mode. If it didn't take any time then fair enough


Yes if you watch the Retro mode stream they say it only took a day to implement the new mode.


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# 48 dalger21 @ 03/12/17 02:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Arbuckle

Worst (in no particular order):
1 Still no rotating IL schedules
Is this confirmed?
 
# 49 bcruise @ 03/12/17 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dalger21
Is this confirmed?
Yeah, Ramone said no on twitter.
 
# 50 dalger21 @ 03/12/17 02:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bcruise
Yeah, Ramone said no on twitter.
That's unfortunate.
 
# 51 nemesis04 @ 03/12/17 03:11 PM
I am really looking forward to the many improvements / additions for 17. I find it interesting how some equate a feature as being bad because of a lack of interest in it.

The only thing I am not enthused about is the art direction on the new OSD's for the pitching mechanics. Actually all the mechanic OSD's need work because their art style lacks a common theme throughout. As the game has matured and developed these have not and their style looks odd with the rest of the game.
 
# 52 TripleCrown9 @ 03/12/17 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2ndBase
Just wait until Under Armor puts their logo on the uniform chest in 2020. The Show has to do what MLB does but Manifred has made it clear the MLB is open for bu$$iness. I'm trying to just enjoy the game of baseball, this is such a great time of year, but the signage creep is yucky.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...azgv7tx_RZUCkA
That's no different than the Majestic logo, just in a different place. UnderArmour is going to be the new supplier, just like New Era is the supplier of the caps.



If a half-dollar sized logo on a uniform interrupts your ability to "enjoy the game of baseball", then that's completely on you.
 
# 53 baseball_fever @ 03/13/17 03:48 PM
Best:

1) MLB network presentation along with the two new men in the booth.

2) Season stats every time the player comes to bat.

3) New faces


Worst:

1) Was hoping for more in regards to franchise.

2) Jersey colours still off.

3) The "early and "late" words that pop up while using meter pitching.
 
# 54 Cowboy008 @ 03/13/17 04:07 PM
Best
1. Improved ball physics
2. Humanity AI
3. New body types

Worst
1. Franchise mode
2. No rotating IL schedule
 
# 55 mdiggitydawg @ 03/13/17 04:40 PM
Excited for the ball physics, and hoping- really hoping AI is much better, both team mate (Baserunning) and opponent (Pitcher match ups in games, or playoff series)
still the reason why I bought the PS4, but like many of us OSers...I am old school play every inning franchise person,hate to see it get pushed to the side
 
# 56 timisone @ 03/13/17 04:59 PM
I was thinking about this more, I am happy with all the changes. As long as we can edit players I am fine. I am just happy to have a baseball game. It's almost scary, if there wasn't the show there would be no baseball game. So I am thankful.
 
# 57 AKM97 @ 03/13/17 08:18 PM
Best:
Ball physics
Updated RTTS
Updated graphics

Worst:
Retro mode
Redundant franchise mode
Jerseys still don't seem very fluid in game.
 
# 58 volsfan39 @ 03/14/17 09:10 AM
Based on the information we have now..

Best
Ball Physics
Presentation
Graphic Update

Worst
Retro Mode
1 Franchise Programmer
80 man Dev team on the only baseball title available.
 
# 59 Dolenz @ 03/14/17 10:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timisone
I was thinking about this more, I am happy with all the changes. As long as we can edit players I am fine. I am just happy to have a baseball game. It's almost scary, if there wasn't the show there would be no baseball game. So I am thankful.

Well, certainly no BB game on the level of The Show but there are the more Arcade style games like RBI Baseball and Super Mega Baseball (which is a surprisingly fun arcade baseball game). Then on the pure simulation side there is Out of The Park Baseball.
 
# 60 Blzer @ 03/14/17 12:40 PM
I don't think any additions have been "cons" of any sort yet, but some omissions (things that have yet to be included) could fall into that category for sure.

The only thing is I wish that Retro fielding camera would pull all the way up for bombed home runs. Whether it's in HRD or otherwise, upper deck flies probably won't be caught on camera.
 


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