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The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17

As we attempt to wait patiently for March 28 to finally get here so we can dive into MLB The Show 17 ourselves and see how this year’s game measures up, we’ve been treated to the usual series of developer streams in the meantime to whet our appetite ahead of its release. While it may be impossible to gauge the game’s components without actually holding a controller in our hands and feeling how things actually play, that’s not going to stop us from making some snap judgments based on everything that we’ve seen so far. Here are the three best and worst things we’ve noticed in our initial impressions of the highly anticipated release.

The Good

Ball Physics

From everything we’ve seen and heard so far, it looks as if we will have considerably more dynamic and unique balls flying off the bats in The Show this year. With claims that there are literally thousands of types of hits to be found and that we could even play the game for a full year and still be seeing new types of hits that we haven’t witnessed yet, it’s apparent that a lot of work has been done in this department.

That means we will get balls curving down the line instead of the straight path we’ve become accustomed to seeing, and Texas Leaguer bloops that are destined to be exciting when they happen for us and absolutely infuriating when they happen against us. It seems like there might actually even be balls hit down the line that carom awkwardly off the wall and go as the doubles they would realistically be rather than bouncing right to outfielders for long singles as they frustratingly have done in the past.



Humanity AI

There are few moments more maddening in The Show than when your shortstop fields a ball hit by a speedy player and proceeds to take his sweet time getting the ball over to first to throw him out, allowing the batter to reach base safely. Finally, it looks as if those days might be over with the introduction of humanity AI that will see fielders recognize who is running down the line and react with a corresponding amount of alacrity in getting the ball to first base.

On the other hand, the same feature hopes to rectify the perfect lines computer fielders would often take in getting to the ball, as if they were aware ahead of time of the exact spot the ball would end up. This should mean more realistic responses from sub-par fielders that result in fielders sometimes taking poor angles to balls that end up going over their heads or falling in front of them -- where in previous years they would routinely vacuum up every ball they had even just the slightest chance of reaching.

Reliever Fatigue And Playing Out Of Position

It often seems as if making a version of The Show that’s suitable for online play is a constant battle in staying one step ahead of the ploys some people will use in order to win games. One of the most popular moves from those trying to take advantage of the system is bringing in a dominant reliever like Aroldis Chapman or Andrew Miller as early as the 6th or 7th and pitching him for 2 or 3 innings because the consequences of doing so weren’t exactly dire. This year, however, promises to be different as pushing a pitcher beyond his stamina should result in either hitting the batter, throwing a pitch outside the strike zone or a meatball right down the heart of the plate.

Another tactic used by many that value winning over sportsmanship was playing someone outside of a position they typically play because the loss in fielding ability was not as severe as it should have been. But this will be something that can’t be exploited this year, as we have learned the penalty for playing someone out of position will be much worse than it has been in the past. So there should be no more plugging A-Rod in behind the plate as catcher and not suffering the consequences.



The Bad


Retro Mode

I’m sure there’s an audience out there for Retro Mode, but I’m just not as certain that I am in that group. Likely designed to try and draw new fans to the game that played baseball video games in the past but find jumping into The Show to be a little bit intimidating, it’s hard not to see Retro Mode for exactly what it is -- a step into the past rather than a look ahead to the future. If stripping the game down to its barest essentials in an attempt to conjure some nostalgia hardly seems like a capital crime, you'd be safe in that assumption. Still, I would be more interested in seeing them invest their time in something more unique than this mode that's been tried in other sports games with limited success.

Now it’s entirely possible that I will be eating these words once I’ve given Retro Mode a chance and all those memories of Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball come flooding back, but I’m willing to bet those of us who buy The Show year after year hoping for progression rather than regression will be left scratching our heads wondering why this was even a thing in the first place.

Diamond Dynasty Pitcher Handedness Mystery

Yes, it’s obviously annoying to play against teams in Diamond Dynasty who immediately back out of a game once they find out they are facing a left-handed pitcher, but removing the ability to see whether you are facing a lefty or righty can’t help but come across as a counterproductive way to resolve this issue. Wouldn’t it make more sense to simply punish anyone who abandons a game when they find out they don’t match up well with the opposition with a loss rather than re-work the entire system in such a way that flies in the face of how one prepares for a baseball game?

What this does is remove any possibility of having platoons at any given position that can be deployed depending on who is pitching. Ask any baseball manager out there and they will tell you it’s imperative to know the pitcher you are facing before filling out the lineup card. This will naturally lead to teams stacking their roster with switch hitters and their rotation with lefties when they could just as easily allow us to build two separate lineups to remedy the problem instead. As you can see, there were a few different ways this legitimate issue could have been fixed, but the way they decided to do it just feels too much like they punished the people who were playing the game the right way.

Bunt Cheesing



While it would be nice to believe that The Show has solved its bunt cheesing problem once and for all and eliminated online players exploiting the game by being able to bunt their way on base with far more frequency than they realistically should, the streams simply haven’t done quite enough h to alleviate fears among the community. In one of the first streams that offered a sneak peek at the game, an attempt to show how the game has improved in this department sadly led to unskilled bunter Willson Contreras still being able to bunt for a hit more often than not. The Show team quickly went into damage control, insisting that this was largely because fastballs were being thrown right down the middle, but it did little to convince everyone that all of the problems have been solved.

It seems like it should be simple enough for The Show team to put to bed one of the biggest gripes the online community had about the game last year, but the fact that they haven’t done this yet is understandably making people feel a little uneasy. Hilariously, their last attempt to show off how bunting had been suitably nerfed led to the game completely freezing. Given the fact that so many people complained about this problem, and attention has clearly been paid to making sure the issue is no longer as glaring as it was last year, it’s more than likely we’ll find out it wasn’t worth really worrying about. However, until we can see hard evidence of the results of bunting being decidedly different than they were a year ago, we’ll unfortunately just have to reserve judgment for the time being.


Member Comments
# 1 asu666 @ 03/09/17 05:39 PM
Retro mode is very niche. I wish the Owner Mode-like features stripped out after MLB 12 would make a return. Madden, NBA 2K, and NHL all added the feature in during that span. Even FIFA tracks jersey and ticket sales now.
 
# 2 @legendm0de @ 03/09/17 05:40 PM
Im interested in retro even though Im not the biggest minigames fan when it comes to sports titles, but considering how much Ken Griffey Jr is involved in that and how much I adored Ken Griffey Jr Baseball 64 there's no way I'm not giving this mode a chance. I'd like to see fantasy baseball in on season modes too, that would be an acceptable mini game to add someday.

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Originally Posted by asu666
Retro mode is very niche. I wish the Owner Mode-like features stripped out after MLB 12 would make a return. Madden, NBA 2K, and NHL all added the feature in during that span. Even FIFA tracks jersey and ticket sales now.


I respect them for not bringing in cheesy owner mode features though, they mentioned it before that when it does come back someday it will be fully featured or much closer to it than before.
 
# 3 MetsFan16 @ 03/09/17 05:42 PM
I see Retro Mode as a "Couch Co-Op" mode with your buddies. Without all of the intricacies of playing the full game. Good way to just relax and hit some dingers against your friends.
 
# 4 Caulfield @ 03/09/17 06:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MMChrisS
The Three Best and Worst Things We Know About MLB The Show 17
3 best
1-game's just around the corner 3-28-2017
2-improved faces
3-improved uniforms

3 worts
1-no Jose Fernandez Yordano Ventura
2-Team San Diego makes me feel so guilty paying so little for so much greatness
3-game's so far around the corner it may as well be 3-28-2018
 
# 5 SaltLakeBrave @ 03/09/17 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ArchitectsMetalcore
Three best:

New faces

New Physics

Harold Reynolds/MLB Network


Three bad:

Retro mode

More focus on micro transaction based DD instead of other modes that doesn't make them money

Matty V not updated


I've got to question Harold Reynolds being one of the 3 best, of course you are entitled to your opinion. In my opinion he's one the 3 worst. I'm excited for the MLB Network, and with that network tie in SDS had access to one of the great commentators of our day, who is very knowledgeable about the game of baseball and very funny, John Smoltz, everything Harold Reynolds is not.


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# 6 SaltLakeBrave @ 03/09/17 09:50 PM
That is true. I would've been in seventh heaven had they updated Matty V, added John Smoltz, and dropped the 3 man booth altogether.


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# 7 ElroyJetson @ 03/09/17 10:21 PM
I agree with the DD backing out issue . It is my biggest gripe with DD , having people back out should result in a loss for them , I don't necessarily need a W, but that person deserves a loss for backing out.


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# 8 jgb3 @ 03/09/17 10:59 PM
Best -

1) Improved Ball Physics

2) Humanity AI (improved infield defense, specifically)

3) Player Quirks (if done right)

Worst-

1) Franchise mode clearly antithetical. Focus on buzzwords like "quicker" and "easier" set off alarms.

2) Diamond Dynasty further cementing itself as the focus of SCEA

3) Player Quirks (if done wrong)


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# 9 HypoLuxa13 @ 03/09/17 11:44 PM
Best
1) Ball Physics
2) Humanity AI
3a) More equipment brands
3b) Ball Physics

Worst
1) Franchise updates not touching actual franchise logic
2) Still 18+ days until the game is playable
3) uh, I dunno... haven't seen SunTrust Park yet...?
 
# 10 exempr @ 03/10/17 09:46 AM
Retro mode gotta be great i spend 20 bucs on the R.B.I garbage game this new feature its like we own 2 games in one,will be more easer to many peoples out there to play the game cause this game is not for everyone to much reality on it you need to know how 2 pitch on online mode even on the season you need to know how to pitch Legend mode its not a joke 😂😂😂🤣🤣 they just need to make the stubbs stuff little more accessible,other thin i hope they fix are the issues wiith the foul balls near the benches they use to vacum the ball for an out,other thin the half check swings hit and hommers 😂😂🤣🤣 i hit a few,another good add will be if they could make a louder first base coach yelling for the pitcher pick off attemp,and last we ask for the player collision gotta be great see the outfield on base runners colissions aswell
 
# 11 BigOscar @ 03/10/17 10:02 AM
Best

1) Ball Physics
2) Ball Physics
3) Ball Physics

Worst

1) Retro Mode, waste of time and space that could have been used for other things.
2) Franchise Mode being dumbed down, with veteran players seemingly being taken for granted with very limited change in core mechanics.
3) Increase in Online only stuff in DD.
 
# 12 rkocjay @ 03/10/17 10:16 AM
Best

1) Ball physics any addition of improved ball physics is great for any sports game
2) MLB network presentation
3) commentary

Worst
1) retro mode- could of put there focus on other modes more
2) franchise mode - not much was added but hopefully things were improved
3) MLB the show seems to be going towards DD more. Even in there Offline franchise stream they seem more excited to show DD Legends then the actual franchise stream.



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# 13 countryboy @ 03/10/17 10:25 AM
Best

1) Ball Physics
2) Humanity AI/Player Quirks
3) Retro Mode - I know this isn't everyone's cup of tea but I'm really looking forward to playing in a "league" with my buddies like we did back in yesteryear.


Worst

1) Things I was hoping were added to franchise mode weren't added this year
2) Having to wait until the end of March to play
3) The Cubs are probably going to crush me........again.
 
# 14 KnightTemplar @ 03/10/17 10:53 AM
Like:

Create player brings the graphics way up!
Quick manage (goodbye FAST FORWARD) LOVE THIS!
Player models look great.

No way:

Retro mode
No expansion mode
Matt
 
# 15 BAFL99 @ 03/10/17 03:11 PM
I think many of you are missing a key component to Retro Mode. As a father of a 6 year old son that LOVES baseball, it is difficult to play The Show while he watches wishing he could grab a controller and play. In this years version he can do just that with Retro Mode. One button does everything just like when we were kids. Will he be able to play franchise? No but he has no interest in that. He just wants to play as his favorite players and teams and have fun. Retro mode was not built for the hardcore players but I know I am looking forward to sharing my passion for this game with my son!
 
# 16 Chef Matt @ 03/10/17 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BAFL99
I think many of you are missing a key component to Retro Mode. As a father of a 6 year old son that LOVES baseball, it is difficult to play The Show while he watches wishing he could grab a controller and play. In this years version he can do just that with Retro Mode. One button does everything just like when we were kids. Will he be able to play franchise? No but he has no interest in that. He just wants to play as his favorite players and teams and have fun. Retro mode was not built for the hardcore players but I know I am looking forward to sharing my passion for this game with my son!
Great, great point. Even my 10 year old has a tough time with all the mechanics. This is going to be great for us too.
 
# 17 iambpburke @ 03/10/17 04:28 PM
I love the idea of Retro Mode. I'm hardcore into sports simulation just like most of us here are. But I do have friends and my girlfriend, who don't want to invest the time and effort a regular game of the Show offers. Me and my best buddy (even to this day) will spend many hours into the night playing Griffey Slugfest on N64. This allows us to do so - with far better graphics and physics this time around.

And I am in the extreme minority in liking Harold Reynolds. Super pumped to be playing '17 every day very soon.
 
# 18 sva91 @ 03/10/17 04:48 PM
I'm extremely excited for retro mode. More action, much less frustrating missing those low curves and change ups. And we can knock out a game in half the time.

I'm just really hoping we can have a broadcast style game, but with retro cam and gameplay. Something about that retro cam brings out the graphics imo.
 
# 19 timisone @ 03/10/17 07:02 PM
3 things I like
Quick manage
New graphics
new launchpad

3 things I don't
Retro mode
DD
No Scouting changes.
 
# 20 timisone @ 03/10/17 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sva91
I'm extremely excited for retro mode. More action, much less frustrating missing those low curves and change ups. And we can knock out a game in half the time.

I'm just really hoping we can have a broadcast style game, but with retro cam and gameplay. Something about that retro cam brings out the graphics imo.
Couldn't we just play an old baseball game if we wanted retro mode? I don't understand the appeal, I remember when madden did this. It lasted one year.
 

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