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NHL 15's Tough Season Continues, Has Big Issues in Ultimate Team

“Of course Ultimate Team made it in.”

Internet comment sections were filled with that sentiment once it became clear that NHL 15 would be missing many of its traditional modes and features on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.

But much like the Columbus Blue Jackets barely making it into the 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs before floundering in the first round, Ultimate Team's mere presence in NHL 15 is the only positive thing that can be said about the latest card-collecting fad.

The mode's present performance deserves no trophy, and certainly won't be bringing any titles back to Electronic Arts' Burnaby studio, except for the infamy of being the worst Ultimate Team experience in sports gaming.
 



Black screen of death

In Online Seasons matchups, once the first intermission concludes, there's about a 50 percent chance that the game will become permanently stuck on a black screen that says “Waiting For User.” The only way to advance past this state is if one of the players decides to quit out and take a “did not finish” loss. Even if you pick up a cheap win because the other guy left the game first, your starting goalie will now be fatigued for the next match, due to a glitch that wrongfully makes your netminder tired after an opponent forfeits an online game.


There simply isn't much point in trying to play Online Seasons mode right now, since it's essentially a coin flip of whether or not you'll make it to the second period without encountering a game-ending, goalie-fatiguing error.
 



Severe lack of content

With Online Seasons being practically unplayable at the moment, that leaves gamers with only one other way to play NHL 15 Ultimate Team: one-off “Solo” exhibition matches against regular hockey teams from the game's existing leagues. There is no way to challenge a friend's fantasy team, compete against a random player's computer-controlled lineup, or sign up for a special tournament, as those three options have all been removed from the game. Unlike Madden NFL 15, which had 10 Hall of Fame athletes waiting to be unlocked the day that Ultimate Team kicked off, there are currently no retired hockey legends in NHL 15. Offline challenges of any kind are also nonexistent -- something that even the much-maligned NBA Live 14 was able to accomplish in its next-gen debut last November.

 



Buggy auction house and glitchy collection rewards

With no compelling modes to play, gamers don't have much choice right now but to play Ultimate Team's card market and work on strengthening their team. Sadly, the loading speeds between screens and the input registration for every button command are both slower in NHL 15 than I have ever experienced in any other version of Ultimate Team. Basic tasks like changing your lineup (you have to do this manually, since the Lineup Assistant feature was removed) and searching for new cards have become incredibly tedious due to the input delay. If you accidentally queue up more button presses than the game can register, NHL 15 will crash back to the PlayStation 4 home screen. Even if you patiently wait for the game to finish loading between each button press, disconnections from the EA servers remain a frequent interruption. I have lost multiple bidding wars because the game “failed to retrieve data” and kicked me back to the main menu before I could input my next bid. Other auction house oddities include not being able to search for specific players by name (like in FIFA Ultimate Team), not being notified whenever you've been outbid on a card, and items disappearing from your active bid list without showing the final price that they sold for.


If you can tolerate all of those interface issues long enough to complete a few team collections, there's still a good chance that some of your reward packs won't unlock, due to a widespread bug. Some players have finally gotten their missing rewards packs to appear by selling then rebuying the last card in a finished collection, but this has not been a cure-all solution for everyone.
 



Missing players and wrong uniform numbers

Many skaters who've switched teams during the off-season, such as Dany Heatley, Mike Ribeiro, and Evgeny Kuznetsov, are absent from Ultimate Team, despite the fact that they are playable in every other NHL 15 game mode. Even the athletes who did make it into Ultimate Team are often represented incorrectly, as there's a long list of skaters with wrong (and unchangeable) uniform numbers, including big names like Marián Gáborík (#9), Phil Kessel (#18), and Tyler Seguin (#19). Many of these same players had incorrect jerseys in NHL 14.


Another leftover bug from NHL 14 is wingers still lining up at center to take face-offs during 4 vs. 4 situations. For the second straight year, left wingers like Thomas Vanek will end up taking all of your crucial overtime draws, while expert centermen like Paul Gaustad watch helplessly from the bench.

Ultimate Team's poor attention to detail even extends to its crowds, as attending fans will wear a random selection of NHL jerseys instead of sporting the involved teams' sweater sets, like they do in other game modes.

Missing User Teams

In a recent "Team of the Week" update, EA Sports Hockey Ultimate Team users saw their teams and collections wiped out by the new content. EA is attempting a fix but as of the posting of this article, many users still had not seen their teams restored after over 24 hours of waiting. If your team was deleted, EA is advising you to not create a new team -- as it could make restoring your old one more difficult.
 



Save money. Live better. Avoid NHL 15.

Across Canada, where Electronic Arts' NHL series is beloved, the game has already dropped $20 in price within two weeks of its release.

Even at that discounted rate (and after one mediocre content patch), the bug-ridden, bare-bones experience that NHL 15 currently offers is not worth buying -- especially for Ultimate Team fans, who will have a lot more fun this year in Madden NFL 15 or FIFA 15.


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# 1 moosebaloney @ 09/25/14 11:57 AM
Another huge complaint is the obvious money grab of removing benches from HUT, forcing players to purchase injury cards as opposed to healing them on the bench.

As for theblack screen of death issue. The first couple nights of playing was riddled with it, but this last week I haven't experienced it once in about 50 games.
 
# 2 murph17 @ 09/25/14 12:17 PM
i'm on XB1, haven't seen any of these issues. only thing i've noticed is current auction bids - the time left doesn't always update accurately.
 
# 3 jake19ny @ 09/25/14 12:41 PM
Worst thing about this is that we can now totally forget any hope of them fixing the many things we all were hoping would be fixed as we all know too well that HUT takes center stage with EA and will be the number one priority of any patching or updating. ***Sigh
 
# 4 snc237 @ 09/25/14 01:13 PM
I bought the nhl ultimate edition because I did have some fun with hut last year, and with the removal of alot of my go to game modes I thought I would be even more involved in hut this year. However the mode is so chunky and just thrown together I have no desire to play it. It really feels like a place holder in an alpha build of the game. Small thing like auto best line feature is sorely missed and the horrible menu interface and speed makes that even more of a drag. I'm hoping there is a significant patch to hut even if it is just for a better layout and speed. Sad to see the best playing hockey game on ice (in my opinion) completely destroyed by lack of game modes and execution on the modes they have in.
 
# 5 huntt26 @ 09/25/14 01:43 PM
I really enjoy the game on the ice - but the lack of modes really stinks. Then, to top it all off - the modes they did include are very stripped down.

I'm glad I bought a physical copy so I can trade it in at some point. I'm sure the game will show up for free on EA access next summer.
 
# 6 centauris @ 09/25/14 01:51 PM
yep. I can barely get into a game or finish a game in UT. And no, this doesn't happen in other games.

I'm so close to trading the game in. it's so frustrating.
 
# 7 ChaseB @ 09/25/14 05:42 PM
The black screen thing is weird to me because I see a lot of people having the issue a bunch or not at all. I've never had it occur -- have had the game lock up in the UT menus a couple times though -- but I've played a ton of Seasons at this point. I wonder if it has something to do with the install itself (digital vs. disc) or something else entirely that's a but out of the game's "control" in terms of being a constant.
 
# 8 Eski33 @ 09/25/14 07:27 PM
I am not a HUT player. However just another huge disappointment. I was amped for NHL 15. To come out on the new gen consoles with a stripped down game is ludicrous. I would have thought RA would've learned from last gen that offering an incomplete product, and at full price, will bring much hate.

The sad part is the game plays well. Absolutely disappointing.
 
# 9 ericromain @ 09/25/14 08:51 PM
"In Online Seasons matchups, once the first intermission concludes, there's about a 50 percent chance that the game will become permanently stuck on a black screen that says “Waiting For User.” The only way to advance past this state is if one of the players decides to quit out and take a “did not finish” loss"

I strongly disagree with this statement. I've about played 50 HUT season games. I had this happen to me twice only on the same night while the servers were particularly struggly. I was admittedly pretty cheesed off and walked away from the game that night with thoughts of abandoning the game, but the next day it was fine, and the tuner came shortly after to rescue the game from being a dangle fest.

I agree on the other points. My #1 complaint with HUT in NHL11-NHL14 was the mode's lack of depth, I had hopes for a shake up in NHL15, but it has even less depth. The only upgrades i can think of is the faster menus and you can have an NHL team's arena. I was surprised how many alternate/retro uniforms made.

There's a lot of changes for the worse this year:
The elimination of a bench for faster line manipulation, the announcers base your team name on your arena, not the jerseys or logo you're wearing, which is completely illogical. The marketplace is a mess.
Injuries happen frequently and even though injury duration is measured in "games", there's no bench to reduce that duration, so your only option is heal cards that i've found are rarer than the frequency of injury.
The lack of legends in the game is an easy addition, but their absence is blatant show of how uncommitted EA is to investing in this series. If 2k had their copy cat HUT mode loaded with hall of famers, you know EA would be right there matching the next year.

Last, for team management mode, the stats in this mode are pathetic. If a player has been demoted to 'My collection' i have no way of checking that player's stats compared to the players in my lineup. Then the stats i can check are limited to GP/G/A/Pts/+-/PIM. What about PPG/SHG/GWG/SOG/Hits/BS ? Those are all stats tracked in a game, but they don't bother saving them to the server. How am I supposed to keep track of my lineup with such little statistical depth.

HUT is fun, i'm addicted. Gameplay if pretty solid post tuner set. I love playing humans, while having the depth of managing a lineup and earning packs is much better than Online VS, but the HUT mode and other online modes have so much potential to be much much more this gen.
 
# 10 Sheba2011 @ 09/26/14 08:48 AM
This is a game that they should have released solely as a play now experience for $19.99 and worked out their issues with the other modes for 2016. As it stands they have lost me as a customer for this year, the first time in about 20 years I won't buy a hockey video game and they may have lost me in 16 as well. Just more time to play Madden and Destiny.
 
# 11 NeptunePirate @ 09/26/14 01:50 PM
I've never had the black screen/waiting for user problem. I'm on PS4 and have played a good amount of online games in HUT. That said, HUT needs a lot of work. It's just not user friendly in the least. No benches and no option to auto generate the best lineups, like Madden 15 has. It just feels like the whole interface is very clumsy, it's a pain to do the smallest tasks in HUT.

I've still been playing it, because I always have loved the Ultimate Team modes. I have yet to put any real money back into it with buying packs. The Ultimate Team mode in Madden this year is absolutely fantastic, I recently put a few bucks back into it. NHL will not get that from me unless they round out all the rough edges.

Like the article mentions, NBA Live had a better Ultimate Team last year on its next gen debut. Which is saying a lot, because even Live's Ultimate Team was a bare bones version compared to the FIFA and Madden series. EA seems to be making the right approach on fixing the game for the people that invested in it already. Lets just hope they keep it up.
 
# 12 Iadf @ 09/26/14 04:04 PM
wow i can't believe how bad this game turned out.
 
# 13 jake19ny @ 09/26/14 04:31 PM
The missing modes were one thing but now it seems on an almost daily basis we find something not working right, something else missing, or flat out stupid with what little game they gave us. They don't have to explain themselves to us I guess but if that were my company some heads would roll. This game playable at times is an outright unfinished untested disaster.
 
# 14 dubbs88 @ 09/26/14 05:44 PM
Where are the $50 copies, still $70 at my local Walmart
 
# 15 FBeaule04 @ 09/26/14 06:46 PM
NHL Nothing! That's what the game will be remember for!
 
# 16 onlybygrace @ 09/26/14 07:49 PM
Yeah, I was at the store looking at the game yesterday for the 360. Looked at the back of the case and its practically empty as there are just two bullet points of new additions...with the normal 60 price tag. Sad.

THEN...

I see that there is a Special copy for 69 (what!!!!) that gives you a certain amount of HUT players.

Wow, just wow.

Next years game needs to be marked down. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, we know it wont.
 
# 17 timbofry1 @ 09/27/14 10:44 AM
Anyone else having these issues? In HUT, I have some players in my collection that are not showing up as available in my lineup. I try to swap players from my current lineup and several players are not available to me. They are both players from packs and auction wins. Am I missing something?
 
# 18 wolfcola @ 09/27/14 10:57 AM
HUT is embarrassingly bad. there's absolutely no excuse for it. I haven't played a game with worse connectivity issues in my entire life. it's 2014, EA has more money than most countries, they need to fix their servers. this is ridiculous
 
# 19 CRIXUS81 @ 09/28/14 08:45 PM
I was really enjoying HUT since the early access however since the last 2 days I have had this issue.

Searching for a game get the usual "finding opponent" than "randomizing home/away" than where we are supposed to select jerseys and settings it's just blank. Two spotlights "which are normally over the players" and the back round with white stuff floating in the air. After about a minute it tells me I've lost connection with my opponent.

I have tried numerous things like hard rebooting my XB1, resetting alternate MAC address, and even reinstalling the game (I have it digitally). After the first reinstall I was able to play one game this morning, however tried again a few hours later and once again same problem. Just got done reinstalling the game but haven't tried to see if it works, since I'm now focusing my time and money on FIFA FUT. I was wondering if anyone else is having this issue. I checked the EA forums and so far I've only seen about 7 users having similar problems.

Plus the EA Forums has this message:

Quote:
Hey,

Just wanted to let everyone know, we are looking into the issues with HUT and as soon as our dev team has a resolution, I will update this thread.

This is our top priority right now, and we will work to get a fix as quickly as possible.
But which server issue are they talking about? Missing players? Completing a collection and not getting rewards packs, not getting the puck you are owed in the auction house, or the problem I'm having?
 
# 20 jyoung @ 09/29/14 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CRIXUS81
Plus the EA Forums has this message:

"Just wanted to let everyone know, we are looking into the issues with HUT and as soon as our dev team has a resolution, I will update this thread.

This is our top priority right now, and we will work to get a fix as quickly as possible.

In the meantime, if your team was reset please DO NOT create a new team, as this may make it more difficult to get the old one restored.

Apologies for the inconvenience."

But which server issue are they talking about? Missing players? Completing a collection and not getting rewards packs, not getting the puck you are owed in the auction house, or the problem I'm having?
That post was from last Wednesday after a bunch of people's teams and collections got reset when the Team of the Week promotion went live.

There was also a new EA mod post today regarding an exploit that appeared over the weekend, which allowed players to purchase gold packs for the same price as bronze packs. As a result of that glitch, the card market basically crashed to a new low over the weekend, and all of the card packs except for gold packs had to be removed from the store.
 

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