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OS Roundtable: What Feature Should be in Every Sports Game?

What feature should be in every sports game?

Sports games progress like every other genre, and idea copying becomes a huge part of the development process. However, some ideas seem to get looked over by some development teams. Given the current state of the industry, what is the most important feature that has not yet made its way into most sports games?

Chris Sanner: The one thing all sports games need that none actually do involves dynamic player personalities. That is the one thing keeping the play on the field from being as authentic as possible. Players have to have rapports with one another; they have to have morale; they have to be more alive. For instance, in baseball alone there are many ups and downs throughout a season that mere talent does not equate to. A player might have a pregnant wife who's having trouble, and his performance might suffer because of that. You cannot simply give players physical ratings and expect to be sim when at least half of sports is mental. So if there's a feature missing in sports games, it's the mental side of sports.

"Baseball is 90% mental, the other half is physical." - Yogi Berra

Robert Kollars: There are a lot of features that should be absolutely standard in all sports games, but a complete editor tops the list for me. Whether it's a complete roster editor, conference/league editor or a track/ballpark/field editor. I know this is difficult to do on a console, but it's amazing the creativity that comes through from users when they have the ability to edit these games. If users had the ability to edit cars and tracks in NASCAR, or really create player likenesses in college games, or truly edit stadiums in NCAA Football -- and then had the abilty to share what they had created -- it would be amazing.

Most games give you some type of editor, but it always seems like it is just a generic one that does not allow nearly enough user input and creativity. For instance, if College Hoops 2K8 had an easy to use and very deep face editor, we would be amazed by what gamers would create. Look at what EA did with NASCAR 09. In that game, the developers allowed a template to be used on your PC, which then could be imported into the game. There were car skins that were created that blew away anything that you got from the game. It's hard not to look at a series like Forza then wonder what it would be like to have those types of customization capabilities in other sports games.



Jayson Young: NCAA Football and Madden NFL are currently the only sports series to feature an online franchise mode. Even then, Madden's version of online franchise is so barebones and limited that it's really more like a "multi-season" mode than a true online franchise. Most sports gamers would agree that franchise mode is the best part of playing sports games. So why hasn't online franchise become a mandatory feature in every sports game?

Madden and NCAA are dull, underwhelming sports games when played offline. But in online leagues where all 32 NFL owners are human, or the SEC is run entirely by human coaches, these mediocre football titles become a lot more exciting. Madden NFL 10 was my sports game of the year in 2009, and it wasn't because the game itself was that great, but because the online franchise experience brought an otherwise boring game to life.


The only thing missing from sports games is....well a lot of things apparently.

Caley Roark: For me, the missing thing that frustrates me most is TV-style presentation, at least for major sports games. I don't need official licensing from ESPN or NBC Sports. However, I do think that official "looking" replays, camera work and stat windows by now should be mandatory.

I suppose it bugs me more because ESPN NFL 2K5 has been the template for broadcast elements, and it's now almost 10 years old. Sure, games like the modern NBA 2K series and MLB The Show have taken strides to get there, but where are the dynamic halftime shows, the weekly SportsCenters or even creative stat overlays that track in-game performance? I know that this is a small element of the overall gaming package, but for me, the context of a full TV-style presentation can help make up for otherwise mediocre modes and gameplay.

Dustin Toms: After playing Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit, I think all sports games need to expand more into the world of social media. With NFS: HP's Autolog feature, you could challenge your friends to beat your track records and challenge times in a heartbeat. Sadly not many picked up the racing title to experience the new feature, but I can see it doing really well in today's society.

Adding an Autolog type feature to games like Madden, NCAA Football and NBA 2K would give each game more replay value. Imagine a hall of fame-type system in Madden between you and your friends (or the entire world) where you could challenge time trials like the quickest two-minute drive or the longest running play -- or perhaps breaking 100 points in NBA 2K like Wilt Chamberlain did back in the old days. It may not be the next big thing that actually affects gameplay, but social-media interaction has become arguably the biggest resource in our nation today so it deserves to be introduced in our video games.

Christian McLeod: I'm with Jayson in thinking that every sports game from here on out needs a form of an online dynasty in it. Let's face it, we live in a world where social networking and MMOs have taken over. NCAA Football's Online Dynasty mode is simply amazing when you take a look at it in detail. Imagine every other sports game out there allowing you to hook up with at least one other person online (with other teams being CPU-controlled) and experiencing everything a franchise can offer together. Not only would this be groundbreaking in team-based games like NHL and NBA 2K, but imagine a WWE or NASCAR game where you play through PPV events or racing seasons with others.

Yes there are definitely some quirks that would need to be worked out in terms of scheduling, especially for sports with multiple games per week, but I am entirely confident that commissioner tools could be put in place to solve these issues. Sports gaming was founded on the couch with a group of friends, and the NCAA Football series has proven just how amazing playing from the next-generation couch can be. Mark it down developers everywhere, this feature needs to be required!


Member Comments
# 41 JPoppie @ 06/22/11 07:09 PM
I think just maybe all sports games should have a myplayer mode but here's the twist: Myplayer mode that continues to next year's release. IE: NBA2K11 should continue to 2K12's myplayer mode. Also all college or amiture leagues to that sport should transfer over to the majors. IE: College 2k12 to nba 2k12. It just makes sense.
 
# 42 tapout8302 @ 06/22/11 07:21 PM
I think file sharing should be included in all sports games. NCAA Football, NBA 2K and MLB The Show greatly benefit from this imo. Madden, NHL, and UFC could really use it. When the community works together and creates a roster it blows the official roster updates out of the water.
 
# 43 avwhitechic @ 06/23/11 08:28 AM
user-defined cameras are a must
 
# 44 stlstudios189 @ 06/23/11 09:08 AM
NFL 2k5 and CH2k8 style TV presentation needs to happen, I love the online record/hall of fame idea, and in game saves love them. I get more games finished in baseball and basketball than football due to this feature
 
# 45 TheTodd84 @ 06/23/11 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay Jay
TheTodd84 hit it on the nose because real physics fix a lot of problems gamers been crying about for years.
thanks jay jay. Do you have ps3? What is your gamertag? I will share the demo w/ you...
 
# 46 TheTodd84 @ 06/23/11 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bluengold34_OS
Can't we just take all these ideas, and make the greatest sports game ever?
lmao! Yes! We need to raid the Tiburon offices in Orlando and just take over. lol.
 
# 47 TheTodd84 @ 06/23/11 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dalsanto0026
I couldn't agree more.
how do you get those hands clapping on these messages? Do I need to go to the actual forums and choose? Because I usually just write from the comment box on the main site.
 
# 48 icecreamtester @ 06/24/11 09:38 AM
I personally disagree with Caley Roark. While many sports gamers wish to have an experience in which they feel like they're on the field or court, I really wish to simulate a television broadcast, and any element that brings me closer to that is a plus for me. Even though there is no network partnership, the camera angle and commentary style of NBA 2k11 has made it my favorite sports game of all time. I rarely, if ever, play with teams other than the Celtics, and while I do hear similar quotes, I never feel like the presentation is a drag, even playing it 4+ times a week since its release. If a game can make a person in the room who is not playing the game feel as if they are watching a live broadcast, I feel that the developer has done their job.
 
# 49 Sabredj @ 06/24/11 03:18 PM
In Game Saves, In Game Saves, Great God Almighty, IN GAME SAVES!!!!
Every game can easily input this but doesn't, WHY????? MLB The Show, once again proves why it's the best sports game made to date. Get with the program, EA, 2K, and others.
 
# 50 prowler @ 06/25/11 01:38 AM
I have zero interest in online dynasty/franchise and judging by the polls on OS and other sites (including NCAA's Facebook page) I'm far from alone. It's shortsighted to assume that because people have completely integrated the internet into their lives that they want to play any and every game online against other people; and again the numbers agree with me. However I do agree with player personalities and complete editing.
 
# 51 jamesfansince03 @ 06/25/11 06:25 PM
madden needs to add there version of 2k share. Adding this makes games more fun for longer and would force the developers to add more stuff to madden other wise fans would just download use made rosters and never buy a new game. it works for 2k
 
# 52 Elgin2311 @ 06/25/11 08:50 PM
Im holding on any type of basketball game until there's a online association. But here's an idea how about a myplayer mode or campus legend mode where you can play with others online in sort of a virtual league where everyone is competing against others users. Have tje ability to team up or play on opposing teams, yeah it would be difficult to set up games but it could be done.
 
# 53 LingeringRegime @ 06/26/11 11:34 AM
The Ability to save replays directly to the HDD/and upload them directly to youtube. Backbreaker would have been a lot better if this was part of their game
 
# 54 kilisportsfan @ 06/26/11 03:11 PM
a halftime show (nba 2k11 has a good one) and a weekly recap show (like in nfl 2k5).
i would often have needed in game saves in madden
 
# 55 nighttrain32 @ 06/26/11 08:20 PM
Spectator Mode should be in every sports game
 
# 56 8iron @ 06/27/11 12:24 PM
The speedwall in NFS:HP.It would obviously have to be tweaked for team sports games, but the old school feel of a coin op arcade game's top scores list combined with the now-aspect of its social network features, is terrific. 90% of my current PS3 friends list is thanks to the speedwall, its suggestions, and the ease of friending people I had raced on line with. I especially like that I can still have some competition with people in my friends list without having to be online when they are and don't have to directly MP with them (see other recent thread about online-averse geezers).I don't understand why they didnt put something directly comparable into TW12.
 
# 57 Diehardfan @ 06/27/11 03:56 PM
Way too much time, energy and money invested on things that apparently interest the devs but are nothing than more than mindless wastes of programming. Why not build a game with input from the peole that actually play them? Hey, what a novel idea...
Its been 10 years since a company did that with NFL2K5. Since then we've been hammered with "big hits", "super dekes" and a host of other various button mashing idiocies. 10 years ago a company damn near nailed it with just a few gameplay flaws....my question is WHY? Why didnt they build off what was a near perfect sports game? Why did they abandon the one game that got so close?
 
# 58 dxdude2004 @ 06/27/11 07:39 PM
EVERY GAME NEEDS COACHING CAROUSEL. I am really pumped to see this being added in NCAA Football FINALLY, because I'm sick of gettting 20 years into the future with Joe Pa STILL coaching at Penn State!
 
# 59 ctindal21 @ 06/28/11 01:23 AM
two words.....CROWD METER!!!
 
# 60 Mike Smoove @ 06/29/11 01:22 PM
online dynasty, some type of my player/superstar mode, physics
 


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