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NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

2K Sent us the overall ratings for every player in each team's starting five. Give the list a look through and let us know what you think! Did 2K rate your team right? Any surprises? Let us know!


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# 301 Berdadeiro @ 09/23/10 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jeebs9
Exactly....lol

I would love for it to be without overall. Franchise Mode would be handled totally different in regards to going after players that fit your gameplay or team system.
that's right. i just don't care the overall rating, i like sharpshooters and i build my team that way.

For example i rather prefer ersan yliasova (i don't know how to write right, god you must curse your parents dude), than a 70 or higher pf that can only dunk.

So i liked the rating, agree that wall is to high because how many players were great in college but didn't perform as expected on nba??? okafor for example, or the other side, granger was a good college player but would thought i was getting the current level he is playing?

I'm european and hate fiba basketball, i just rather see clippers vs t'wolves than euroleague final...well ricky rubio higlight are nice, but i must agree that in general the non-american players are hurt in the game. Not the overall grade, but in the stats at least on 2k10, because at the pf and center position height isn't everything, there are players on the nba playing just for their height and tech??? well that's not important if born at the US!!!
Being a Center rebounding is very important but everybody can rebound on a team if they want, is just a matter of effort...but ao many centers have the finesse of Bargani for example???

So give foreigners a little more respect when you give their stats.
 
# 302 J_Posse @ 09/23/10 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by elprez98
You are kidding right? Lebron has to get a much more consistent jumper and a post game to be considered a more complete player than Kobe.
Uh, Lebron is a better rebounder, defender, passer and is far more efficient offensively than Bryant. Bryant is still great, but LeBron is the best player in the entire league.

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Gasol is better than Dwight and Duncan. He has a midrange game and is a FAR better passer, FT shooter than Howard
Wrong. Gasol is equally to an aging Duncan, but worse than Dwight Howard. Gasol has such great offensive skill, but has managed to never score even 20 points a night. Dwight, with his "limited" skills, has done it twice. Gasol is only better at passing and shooting FT's, but Dwight is a better scorer, rebounder and he is the best defender in the NBA.

The L.A. hype is in full effect I see. They are the two best players on the best team in the NBA, not the best swingman/overall player and bigman in the entire league. People seem to not be able to distinguish between those two points.
 
# 303 K_Dub @ 09/23/10 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ace23
LeBron has a better jumper and finishing ability than Kobe IMO.
No. Kobe definitely has the better jumper, especially from 10-15 out (Kobe 49.7% vs. LBJ 32.2%). Lebron closed the gap from 16-23 feet out though (Kobe 41% vs LBJ 40%), and was a better 3 point shooter than Kobe last year.
 
# 304 RayRay34 @ 09/23/10 09:13 PM
Brandon Jennings rated lower that Maggette???? REALLY??
 
# 305 stillfeelme @ 09/23/10 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pepp32
I do unstand that arguement,......BUT....Rose outside game is light years ahead of Rondo. Not to mention that Rose carried the Bulls last season. Their was a span of about 6 or 7 games last year where he was flat out dominant against Western Conference teams. I 've never seen Rondo not once carry the Celtics When the rest of the team was flat. We have even mentioned that Rondo is playing with 3 Hall of Famers.
Yeah man I see your point but that is the thing Rondo is a pass first point guard. Rose is more of a scoring point. They have different strengths and weaknesses. I can say the same thing that Rondo is far ahead in Rose from a defense of standpoint he should get you more possessions for easy scores. Another thing for Rondo being such a bad outside shooter his inside shooting is great which means he is getting plenty of points in the paint. He led all point guards in FG% Steve Nash was second.
 
# 306 elprez98 @ 09/23/10 09:23 PM
Ok, I'm going to bow out before this gets out of hand (Kobe vs. Bron). I don't see any problem with the ratings.
 
# 307 elprez98 @ 09/23/10 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by J_Posse512
Uh, Lebron is a better rebounder, defender, passer and is far more efficient offensively than Bryant. Bryant is still great, but LeBron is the best player in the entire league.



Wrong. Gasol is equally to an aging Duncan, but worse than Dwight Howard. Gasol has such great offensive skill, but has managed to never score even 20 points a night. Dwight, with his "limited" skills, has done it twice. Gasol is only better at passing and shooting FT's, but Dwight is a better scorer, rebounder and he is the best defender in the NBA.

The L.A. hype is in full effect I see. They are the two best players on the best team in the NBA, not the best swingman/overall player and bigman in the entire league. People seem to not be able to distinguish between those two points.
Lets move this convo from this thread.
 
# 308 neptuneniq @ 09/23/10 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by elprez98
Ok, I'm going to bow out before this gets out of hand (Kobe vs. Bron). I don't see any problem with the ratings.
lol it always ends up like that
 
# 309 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 09/23/10 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by J_Posse512
Uh, Lebron is a better rebounder, defender, passer and is far more efficient offensively than Bryant. Bryant is still great, but LeBron is the best player in the entire league.



Wrong. Gasol is equally to an aging Duncan, but worse than Dwight Howard. Gasol has such great offensive skill, but has managed to never score even 20 points a night. Dwight, with his "limited" skills, has done it twice. Gasol is only better at passing and shooting FT's, but Dwight is a better scorer, rebounder and he is the best defender in the NBA.

The L.A. hype is in full effect I see. They are the two best players on the best team in the NBA, not the best swingman/overall player and bigman in the entire league. People seem to not be able to distinguish between those two points.
First, what makes LeBron a better defender than Kobe? The fact that he gets steals and weakside blocks? Kobe can still lock people down while being athletically inferior. LeBron is hardly a lock down defender. Second, Lebron has like 2 or 3 inches of height and even more given his athleticism so obviously he's going to be a better rebounder.

Third, Gasol has averaged 20 points per game twice in his career back when he was the #1 option in Memphis. In LA, he's the #2 option and still averages 18 or 19 points per game while Howard struggles to score 20 despite being the #1 option and having like the highest FG % in the NBA. So no, Howard is not a better scorer. He can just dunk.

The ratings are fine just the way they are.
 
# 310 seanbarkley @ 09/23/10 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by J_Posse512
(...)Gasol is equally to an aging Duncan, but worse than Dwight Howard. Gasol has such great offensive skill, but has managed to never score even 20 points a night. Dwight, with his "limited" skills, has done it twice. Gasol is only better at passing and shooting FT's, but Dwight is a better scorer, rebounder and he is the best defender in the NBA.
Blame me for being also a Spaniard, but I completely disagree!
 
# 311 Playmakers @ 09/23/10 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by infam0us
McGee isn't very skilled, he's got great size and athletic ability. Overall he's still a raw talent, I'm sure even with a 59 he's still a beast.

I hope one of the dev can answer this for me but I have a question about the ratings and its effect on association. We all can agree that Dirk is better than D.Lee but they're both rated 83 and I'm sure a lot has to do with Lee being an incredible rebounder. But in association, how do you distinguish the two? Like would your chances of winning a ring be greater with Dirk in 2k or with Lee if you were simming the season?
Hmmm

Future HOF Dirk who is still at the top of his game being an 83..............

He's arguably coming off a better year than his MVP season

Oh well I guess that's why you can always adjust ratings because this is highway robbery
 
# 312 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 09/23/10 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by snoopluca
Wow that was a stupid comment
y dont u also tell me rondo is a better point guard than lebron james? does that make him a better player?
sometimes i wonder if people actually know the sport
dwight is a better player than rondo that's not a crazy statement to make, and in fact, many people would agree so yeah... keep making "smart" remarks, but just know they're really, REALLY ****ing stupid
The fact that a PG has a higher rating than a C doesn't mean that the PG is a better player than the C either. They play completely different positions.
 
# 313 Playmakers @ 09/23/10 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ace23
Gasol is better than Dwight and Duncan. He has a midrange game and is a FAR better passer, FT shooter than Howard.
You'd be lucky to have more than 10 GM's take Gasol over Howard
 
# 314 tn187 @ 09/23/10 09:42 PM
Rajan Rondo was on espn today, and he stated that he had learned that his rating was a 92 overall and that he was satisfied with his ratings. So i don't think these will be gonna be the final ratings unless someone can confirm he was wrong?
 
# 315 MrBallaBoy21 @ 09/23/10 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ace23
Gasol has average 20 PPG twice.
Not in LA is what he meant I think.
 
# 316 Eman5805 @ 09/23/10 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Playmakers
Hmmm

Future HOF Dirk who is still at the top of his game being an 83..............

He's arguably coming off a better year than his MVP season

Oh well I guess that's why you can always adjust ratings because this is highway robbery
Sounds fair to me. Probably a 90 in offense, a 50something on D, combined with a 22 in toughness/88 in softness.
 
# 317 Pongsona @ 09/23/10 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by K_Dub
Knew somebody was gonna say this.
Shooting stats From 16-23 Feet from players who played in at 30 games and 20 mpg

Dirk 3.8 makes 8.3 attempts 46%
Nash 1.8 makes 3.9 attempts 46%
CP3 2.2 makes 4.9 attempts 45%
Melo 2.9 makes 7.1 attempts 40%
Kobe 2.5 makes 6.0 attempts 41%
KD 2.2 makes 5.8 attempts 37%
Wade 1.9 makes 5.3 attempts 36%
Rose 3.0 makes 6.9 attempts 44%
If you are gonna go by the percentage then you're right. But, you and I both know that his number doesn't tell the whole story. Defenders give Rose a lot of space because his main strengths are his quickness and ability to get into the lane, not his midrange jumpshot. Kobe shot 41% - are you telling me Rose's midrange jumpshot is better than Kobe's? I sure hope not. To say Rose is one of the best jump shooters from 16-23 feet because of the percentage is pretty laughable. With that said, I still think he's one of the best PG's in the NBA.

Here are some of the players who had lower shooting % from 16-23 feet than Rose..

Deron Williams
Richard Hamilton
Mike Bibby
Kobe Bryant
Ben Gordon
Peja Stojakovic

So yeah. Numbers don't always tell the whole story.
 
# 318 plastict @ 09/23/10 09:51 PM
Some quick thoughts:

Ariza is too high
Joe Johnson is too high
Igoudala is too high
Bargnani is too high
Kirilenko is too low
Nowitzki is too low
Noah is too low
Nene and Kenyon Martin are both a little high
 
# 319 BaselineBakes @ 09/23/10 09:53 PM
Darren Collison @ 80 while Brandon Jennings is a 76 and Tony Parker is 78 is really the only thing that stood out to me.

Kobe shouldn't be the same as Bron and Wade anymore both have been better individual players the past year.

D-Will 94
Melo, CP3, Durant - 95
Kobe - 96
Wade - 97
Bron - 98

No big deal though, once you learn how to play with whoever your controlling, there moves and so on and so forth a 90 rated player is still the elite player of the group no matter the number between them.
 
# 320 InRodWeTrust @ 09/23/10 09:54 PM
Dwight Howard isnt a scorer... hes just more athletic than everybody who guards him so he gets points... Kevin Durant is a scorer... he has multiple ways to get buckets... Kobe Bryant is a scorer... Lebron is a scorer... hell even Jamal Crawford is a scorer... you gotta play those guys for the drive, the jumper, or the pass... Dwight Howard you already know what hes going to do there is just nobody in the NBA physically able to stop him from doing it.
 


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