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Mike Wang Leaves EA, Heads Back To 2K Sports for NBA 2K11

Last night Sean O'Brien, the lead producer for NBA Live 10, blogged about Mike Wang leaving EA Canada and heading back to the US. Conveniently enough, this announcement coincided with a tweet by Ronnie 2K, an employee at 2K Sports, that said "huge news on the NBA front" was coming in the morning.

At this point the speculation began, but there was really no reason to analyze these two pieces of news like they were threads in an episode of Lost. Mike Wang is back at 2K Sports, and in addition to that fact, he is already working on NBA 2K11.

Operation Sports got a chance to talk with Mike Wang and NBA 2K producer Erick Boenisch about why Mike is returning to the NBA 2K franchise, why he left EA and what this all means for NBA 2K11.

Operation Sports: Obviously, the first question is what made you leave the NBA Live team Mike?

Mike Wang: My main goal ever since I got into this industry has been to help create the ultimate NBA hoops sim. After spending time with both Visual Concepts, working on NBA 2K6-2K8, and then with EA the past couple years, I realized that if I wanted to achieve my goal, returning to Visual Concepts was the right move to make. I met some great people in Canada (both inside and outside of EA), but it is definitely great to be back home.

OS: When did you leave or decide to leave the NBA Live team, and when did you return to the NBA 2K team?

Mike: After NBA Live 10 wrapped up and we started going through the pre-production planning phase for '11, we held several meetings to discuss the future of the franchise. After going through those meetings, it became very clear that the vision I had for the game was different from where the leadership wanted to take it. I parted ways with EA shortly after and came back on-board with the NBA 2K team last November.

OS: After you left EA, did you immediately think about coming back to Visual Concepts? Was Visual Concepts the only development studio you considered?

Mike: Absolutely. The moment I stepped out the door after NBA 2K8, I missed the game, the guys I was working with and just the overall way VC, as a company, operates. It is easy to take things like that for granted, and sometimes you have to lose them to really understand just how valuable they are. Fortunately for me, I have been given a second chance to work with the best team in the business doing what I love to do. And yes, VC was the only studio that I considered returning to.

OS: A couple years ago you left the NBA 2K team. So has something at the studio changed since you left that specifically made you want to come back?

Mike: The studio and development team here at 2K has evolved quite a bit since I left. They have added some incredible new talent, including absorbing the College Hoops 2K guys, which has made coming back that much more exciting. I would not say that is what prompted me to want to come back, but it is definitely a different dynamic here, and I am really excited for what we are going to be able to build together.

OS: Erick, did Mike tell you guys ahead of time that he was considering returning to Visual Concepts, or were you surprised to find out Mike was or might be coming back to the studio?

Erick Boenisch: Mike was very respectful of his employer and did not contact Rob or I until he had made his own decision. Obviously, upon hearing the news, we were very excited about bringing Mike back home to 2K where he belongs. We have a very talented and experienced development team working on the NBA 2K franchise, so when you get the opportunity to add experience to an already experienced team, people tend to get excited, and rightfully so. We have some special stuff in the works for NBA 2K11, and it is going to show this fall when the game is released.

OS: Mike, you have bounced around a bit during your development career [Mike previously worked on Microsoft's Inside Drive series, then went to 2K Sports before heading to EA Canada]. Are you planning on sticking around at Visual Concepts this time around?


Mike: I told Greg Thomas [president of Visual Concepts] he could sign me to a long-term contract if he wanted to. But yes, I have every intention of sticking with VC for the long haul.

OS: Did you return to 2K early enough to get involved in the grand scheme of things for NBA 2K11? In other words, are you fully involved with this development process and the "big ideas" that are going into the game this year, or is next year going to be your first "full" year working on the series again?


Mike: One of the wonderful things about this company, its tools, workflows and processes is that everything is very efficient, and it is just easy to get things done. So yes, everything that I wanted to work on this year has been incorporated into the plan. The interesting thing is, when I first spoke with Rob Jones [gameplay director for NBA 2K] about coming back, many of the things that I wanted to do were already in the works. Rob and I have always seen eye to eye on what makes a great basketball game, so we were able to get back into the groove of things very quickly. It was very refreshing to talk about the state of the current basketball games and start bouncing ideas off of each other again -- just like old times. And with the addition of Zach and Jerson, the College Hoops 2K gameplay producers, I could not have hoped for a stronger gameplay design/production team to work with. Personally, it did take me a couple weeks to get up to speed on all the new tools and features that the guys have been working on the last couple years, but now we are firing on all cylinders, and we are creating a title in NBA 2K11 that I know hoops fans are going to love.

OS: Erick, was there anything in particular you guys were lacking on the development side of things after Mike headed to EA?

Erick: Fortunately for us, we had some very talented individuals step into the NBA gameplay design role with the demise of College Hoops 2K. Mike has stepped right in and worked seamlessly with these guys. When you put a lot of great minds together, great things happen, and we are already seeing that with NBA 2K11.

OS: Mike, what is your role going to be now that you are a part of the the NBA 2K development team again? What areas will you be most focused on?


Mike: My role is pretty much the same as when I left after NBA 2K8, and my focus will never change: the five-on-five on-court experience. I am really excited to let everybody know what we, as a gameplay team, have in store for you this year. But that will have to wait for now.

OS: Overall, what does this mean for the development team working on the NBA 2K series?

Erick: The NBA 2K development team has very little turnover, which I think speaks volumes to the pride and dedication each member has towards delivering the most authentic simulation basketball experience possible. The goal for our team is very simple, deliver the absolute best game of basketball to our fans. With that in mind, our team was very excited to see Mike step in and do what we know he is capable of. The real winner here is our fans, who will reap the benefits of this great addition to our team.


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Member Comments
# 1 JohnDoe8865 @ 02/02/10 07:06 AM
Awesome, reading now.
 
# 2 RayDog253 @ 02/02/10 07:08 AM
Wow, I still don't know what to think of this whole situation. The Live team really had me sold on their game last year, Beluba included. Now all this happens, I guess we're just gonna have to wait and see how this all pans out.
 
# 3 bamalam @ 02/02/10 07:57 AM
good to see beluba back at 2k.

does make me wonder how live is going to compete long term, because before beluba, they were not even close to 2k.

live 11 probably will still have some b influence

2k musta improved them programming tools because didnt b state he left basically because the engine, etc was limted, and they were covering game issues with animations. might have been a lot of "business speak"

anyways, him being back will only improve 2k. ea live has messed up big time letting him go.
 
# 4 tabulaRasa @ 02/02/10 08:05 AM
This sounds really great for 2K.
 
# 5 rockchisler @ 02/02/10 08:28 AM
Well If its True that the Heads at EA want a different direction then Ok I understand his move, But from My understanding Live is still going to be a sim experience, Maybe something changed between November and February.
 
# 6 SHAKYR @ 02/02/10 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by wsu_gb23
This is pretty huge news for the basketball videogame industry. MIke Wang is the real deal. Look what he did for LIVE 10 in the short time he was there. I actually bought LIVE this year and not 2K for the first time since 2K's inception. I am pretty pumped about what Wang will do for 2K11! It'll be a tight race for sports-game of the year.
It won't be a race at all. It would be like a Hybrid vs. a muscle car.
 
# 7 ataman5 @ 02/02/10 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SHAKYR
It won't be a race at all. It would be like a Hybrid vs. a muscle car.
Unfortunately.
 
# 8 STLRams @ 02/02/10 10:24 AM
Wow, 2K11 will be awsome.
 
# 9 Dantecamp21 @ 02/02/10 10:44 AM
He's still the real deal when it comes to designing bball games and I'm pretty sure 2K11 will rock. I'm concerned about Live 11's future though.

But at the end of the day, at least for me, he has lost some credibility. He took swipes at 2K's lack of tools when he was gone and now he's throwing EA's management under the bus.
 
# 10 bigsmallwood @ 02/02/10 10:46 AM
Oh Boy! 2K11 just got waaaaay more interesting in what they will be able to offer!
 
# 11 ODogg @ 02/02/10 10:50 AM
I guess I can cross NBA 11 off my to-purchase list next year now.
 
# 12 BrianFifaFan @ 02/02/10 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Dantecamp21
He's still the real deal when it comes to designing bball games and I'm pretty sure 2K11 will rock. I'm concerned about Live 11's future though.

But at the end of the day, at least for me, he has lost some credibility. He took swipes at 2K's lack of tools when he was gone and now he's throwing EA's management under the bus.
Maybe they've got the tools now. Or maybe having been in contact with EA's tech and how they use it, he's got ideas of how VC's stuff can be used more effectively. Now, if you haven't been living totally in the dark, the observations that have been made about EA management and corporate culture are hardly new. They were the first assumptions made over in the other forum when we found out he had left and he just confirmed what was considered the real story on this. His only act of "throwing EA management under the bus" was being honest. He could have dogged the product and the team, but he was actually quite diplomatic.

They just wanted to make a different game, hoping to hit a home run next year. Maybe the NBA Live lead needs to have a pow-wow with Littman and Rutter. Home runs don't get hit often. Building a strong game over many iterations is how every sports title gets built into a legend. NHL,MVP,PES,NBA2K,NFL2k, the list goes on and on. I hate to say it, but Mike knows all of Live's strengths and weaknesses. Programming and tech. He could use that knowledge to help fix the few flaws that remain in the 2k product. It could be a really rough go of it for the EA product next year....
 
# 13 STLRams @ 02/02/10 11:05 AM
Hopefully he can implement some of the roster update tools and dynamic dna of EA Live into the tendencies, instead of us relying on the 2KInsider.
 
# 14 Dantecamp21 @ 02/02/10 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianFifaFan
Maybe they've got the tools now. Or maybe having been in contact with EA's tech and how they use it, he's got ideas of how VC's stuff can be used more effectively. Now, if you haven't been living totally in the dark, the observations that have been made about EA management and corporate culture are hardly new. They were the first assumptions made over in the other forum when we found out he had left and he just confirmed what was considered the real story on this. His only act of "throwing EA management under the bus" was being honest. He could have dogged the product and the team, but he was actually quite diplomatic.

They just wanted to make a different game, hoping to hit a home run next year. Maybe the NBA Live lead needs to have a pow-wow with Littman and Rutter. Home runs don't get hit often. Building a strong game over many iterations is how every sports title gets built into a legend. NHL,MVP,PES,NBA2K,NFL2k, the list goes on and on. I hate to say it, but Mike knows all of Live's strengths and weaknesses. Programming and tech. He could use that knowledge to help fix the few flaws that remain in the 2k product. It could be a really rough go of it for the EA product next year....
Haven't been on the dark at all my man, been playing sports game since Lakers vs Celtics on the MSX. And I accept your point of view and can't hide from the truth presented arguments. EA's bad rep hasn't surfaced from nothing.

But I believe that he could have handled both of his exits in a different manner. It's easy to say all the bad things about your former employee and all the good things about your next one.

Again, that's my point of view, no offense to Mike, it's his own business to mind.
 
# 15 monzel214 @ 02/02/10 12:05 PM
nba live 10 was first game i kept since 95 and now mike wang gone i wont be buying live next yr also that dude who run live dont know what the heck he doing for real
 
# 16 cheechoo98 @ 02/02/10 12:06 PM
Wow. I never followed the B-Ball game but from the sounds of it. Sure wish they had someone like Mike for their hockey franchise....
 
# 17 BrianFifaFan @ 02/02/10 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dantecamp21
Haven't been on the dark at all my man, been playing sports game since Lakers vs Celtics on the MSX. And I accept your point of view and can't hide from the truth presented arguments. EA's bad rep hasn't surfaced from nothing.

But I believe that he could have handled both of his exits in a different manner. It's easy to say all the bad things about your former employee and all the good things about your next one.

Again, that's my point of view, no offense to Mike, it's his own business to mind.
Fair enough. And please don't take it as if I was dogging you or your opinion. It just kinda frustrates me that, after seeing how NHL and Fifa turned it all aorund and became sworn to a vision of making world-class games and letting the sales be generated by that, Mike is now saying that they are in disarray/confused, yet again. Remember, these award-winning, sales killing franchises are produced on the same exact campus. I'm sympathetic to Mike, if they aren't committed to making a world class basketball sim, and trying to making 2k the loser, what's the point of fighting the war? There's no such thing as interpretations of a sport. There's no arcade or sim. There's a good sports games and a bad sports game. And EA seems to have no idea which is which....

P.S. I've played basketball since Atari. LOL!
 
# 18 Dantecamp21 @ 02/02/10 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianFifaFan
Fair enough. And please don't take it as if I was dogging you or your opinion. It just kinda frustrates me that, after seeing how NHL and Fifa turned it all aorund and became sworn to a vision of making world-class games and letting the sales be generated by that, Mike is now saying that they are in disarray/confused, yet again. Remember, these award-winning, sales killing franchises are produced on the same exact campus. I'm sympathetic to Mike, if they aren't committed to making a world class basketball sim, and trying to making 2k the loser, what's the point of fighting the war? There's no such thing as interpretations of a sport. There's no arcade or sim. There's a good sports games and a bad sports game. And EA seems to have no idea which is which....

P.S. I've played basketball since Atari. LOL!
Yeah, it makes me wonder what they're aimming for in this next development cycle as well.

I'm really concerned about the direction that their basketball program is being taken. Peter Moore seems happy with all the buzz NBA Jam is generating, and that should be considered a very disheartening development.

It makes one wonder if Turmell will head up north all the way from Florida to give his input on Live as well.

Live 10 is a solid product with some very positives going for then (playbooks, pace, controls, accessories, etc). Running away from the foundation that Mike built will be a mistake.
 
# 19 smithdynasty @ 02/02/10 12:46 PM
WOW!!!!!!!!!!! I feel like a Mike Wang groupie now. I bought Live this year (for the first time since 05) and now I'm back on the 2k bangwagon. I strongly believe Live has no chance next year. It's crazy because although Live has gotten way better, it's still not 2k. I hear A LOT of complaints about 2k10 but after playing the demo and store versions, I don't see what the fuss is about (except for the terrible defensive gameplay). If my player mode is the only broken piece of the game, then you have very little to complain about (compared to live).

All in all, I had 5 wishes in life, im pretty sure one of them would be to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make COLLEGE HOOPS 2k11
 
# 20 eko718 @ 02/02/10 01:43 PM
All I have to say is welcome the hell back Beluba.
 

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