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Mike Wang Leaves EA, Heads Back To 2K Sports for NBA 2K11

Last night Sean O'Brien, the lead producer for NBA Live 10, blogged about Mike Wang leaving EA Canada and heading back to the US. Conveniently enough, this announcement coincided with a tweet by Ronnie 2K, an employee at 2K Sports, that said "huge news on the NBA front" was coming in the morning.

At this point the speculation began, but there was really no reason to analyze these two pieces of news like they were threads in an episode of Lost. Mike Wang is back at 2K Sports, and in addition to that fact, he is already working on NBA 2K11.

Operation Sports got a chance to talk with Mike Wang and NBA 2K producer Erick Boenisch about why Mike is returning to the NBA 2K franchise, why he left EA and what this all means for NBA 2K11.

Operation Sports: Obviously, the first question is what made you leave the NBA Live team Mike?

Mike Wang: My main goal ever since I got into this industry has been to help create the ultimate NBA hoops sim. After spending time with both Visual Concepts, working on NBA 2K6-2K8, and then with EA the past couple years, I realized that if I wanted to achieve my goal, returning to Visual Concepts was the right move to make. I met some great people in Canada (both inside and outside of EA), but it is definitely great to be back home.

OS: When did you leave or decide to leave the NBA Live team, and when did you return to the NBA 2K team?

Mike: After NBA Live 10 wrapped up and we started going through the pre-production planning phase for '11, we held several meetings to discuss the future of the franchise. After going through those meetings, it became very clear that the vision I had for the game was different from where the leadership wanted to take it. I parted ways with EA shortly after and came back on-board with the NBA 2K team last November.

OS: After you left EA, did you immediately think about coming back to Visual Concepts? Was Visual Concepts the only development studio you considered?

Mike: Absolutely. The moment I stepped out the door after NBA 2K8, I missed the game, the guys I was working with and just the overall way VC, as a company, operates. It is easy to take things like that for granted, and sometimes you have to lose them to really understand just how valuable they are. Fortunately for me, I have been given a second chance to work with the best team in the business doing what I love to do. And yes, VC was the only studio that I considered returning to.

OS: A couple years ago you left the NBA 2K team. So has something at the studio changed since you left that specifically made you want to come back?

Mike: The studio and development team here at 2K has evolved quite a bit since I left. They have added some incredible new talent, including absorbing the College Hoops 2K guys, which has made coming back that much more exciting. I would not say that is what prompted me to want to come back, but it is definitely a different dynamic here, and I am really excited for what we are going to be able to build together.

OS: Erick, did Mike tell you guys ahead of time that he was considering returning to Visual Concepts, or were you surprised to find out Mike was or might be coming back to the studio?

Erick Boenisch: Mike was very respectful of his employer and did not contact Rob or I until he had made his own decision. Obviously, upon hearing the news, we were very excited about bringing Mike back home to 2K where he belongs. We have a very talented and experienced development team working on the NBA 2K franchise, so when you get the opportunity to add experience to an already experienced team, people tend to get excited, and rightfully so. We have some special stuff in the works for NBA 2K11, and it is going to show this fall when the game is released.

OS: Mike, you have bounced around a bit during your development career [Mike previously worked on Microsoft's Inside Drive series, then went to 2K Sports before heading to EA Canada]. Are you planning on sticking around at Visual Concepts this time around?


Mike: I told Greg Thomas [president of Visual Concepts] he could sign me to a long-term contract if he wanted to. But yes, I have every intention of sticking with VC for the long haul.

OS: Did you return to 2K early enough to get involved in the grand scheme of things for NBA 2K11? In other words, are you fully involved with this development process and the "big ideas" that are going into the game this year, or is next year going to be your first "full" year working on the series again?


Mike: One of the wonderful things about this company, its tools, workflows and processes is that everything is very efficient, and it is just easy to get things done. So yes, everything that I wanted to work on this year has been incorporated into the plan. The interesting thing is, when I first spoke with Rob Jones [gameplay director for NBA 2K] about coming back, many of the things that I wanted to do were already in the works. Rob and I have always seen eye to eye on what makes a great basketball game, so we were able to get back into the groove of things very quickly. It was very refreshing to talk about the state of the current basketball games and start bouncing ideas off of each other again -- just like old times. And with the addition of Zach and Jerson, the College Hoops 2K gameplay producers, I could not have hoped for a stronger gameplay design/production team to work with. Personally, it did take me a couple weeks to get up to speed on all the new tools and features that the guys have been working on the last couple years, but now we are firing on all cylinders, and we are creating a title in NBA 2K11 that I know hoops fans are going to love.

OS: Erick, was there anything in particular you guys were lacking on the development side of things after Mike headed to EA?

Erick: Fortunately for us, we had some very talented individuals step into the NBA gameplay design role with the demise of College Hoops 2K. Mike has stepped right in and worked seamlessly with these guys. When you put a lot of great minds together, great things happen, and we are already seeing that with NBA 2K11.

OS: Mike, what is your role going to be now that you are a part of the the NBA 2K development team again? What areas will you be most focused on?


Mike: My role is pretty much the same as when I left after NBA 2K8, and my focus will never change: the five-on-five on-court experience. I am really excited to let everybody know what we, as a gameplay team, have in store for you this year. But that will have to wait for now.

OS: Overall, what does this mean for the development team working on the NBA 2K series?

Erick: The NBA 2K development team has very little turnover, which I think speaks volumes to the pride and dedication each member has towards delivering the most authentic simulation basketball experience possible. The goal for our team is very simple, deliver the absolute best game of basketball to our fans. With that in mind, our team was very excited to see Mike step in and do what we know he is capable of. The real winner here is our fans, who will reap the benefits of this great addition to our team.


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Member Comments
# 21 robinsnestkc @ 02/02/10 01:44 PM
I have been a LIVE fan since 95. Though they have had some horrible titles. I got into 2K on the Dream Cast also. I didn't by a Basket ball game between 2003-2007. In '07 and '08 I was with 2k. '09 Live. I think I too am a Mike groupie. 2k11 for me. LIVE you are the biggest idiots God ever created you let go someone who is a leader in the industry.
 
# 22 2kjunkie @ 02/02/10 01:54 PM
I am happy that Mike is back with 2K but I still can't get over the fact that he is a flip flopper but ohh well I guess that's life.

Bring on 2K11
 
# 23 HiTEqMETHOD @ 02/02/10 02:20 PM
mike returning to 2k was something I pretty much expected ever since I heard he was joining EA. EA just has too much of a corporate attitude toward how they make their games.
 
# 24 BroMontana82 @ 02/02/10 04:03 PM
this is good for 2k but it was also good for 2k fans for him to go to live for a year. live's competitive offering this year made 2k raise its game too. if the series becomes complacent again because live starts to go downhill, i will not be happy.
 
# 25 youvalss @ 02/02/10 04:56 PM
I don't care much about what he has to say about 2K just like I don't care about what he said about EA. It all depends what company he works for. 2 years from now he may go to who knows where and say 2K was this and that and so on... I don't know why the media keeps asking him about this or that company, it's really pointless.
 
# 26 thmst30 @ 02/02/10 05:03 PM
NBA Live series is in SERIOUS SERIOUS trouble. Outsold this year by their largest margin ever, and now the most sim NBA developer around has left saying he doesn't agree with NBA Live's direction. I really wish I could have been a fly on the wall in those meetings to hear what was so bad that it dove Mike Wang away after just ~1 year. Hopefully he can fix 2K's problems now.
 
# 27 Joka2122 @ 02/02/10 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by thmst30
NBA Live series is in SERIOUS SERIOUS trouble. Outsold this year by their largest margin ever, and now the most sim NBA developer around has left saying he doesn't agree with NBA Live's direction. I really wish I could have been a fly on the wall in those meetings to hear what was so bad that it dove Mike Wang away after just ~1 year. Hopefully he can fix 2K's problems now.
He's good but not that great. All in all, it is good news Wang is part of the 2k team now. I guess he can officially be called a man W***E.
 
# 28 youvalss @ 02/02/10 05:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thmst30
NBA Live series is in SERIOUS SERIOUS trouble. Outsold this year by their largest margin ever, and now the most sim NBA developer around has left saying he doesn't agree with NBA Live's direction. I really wish I could have been a fly on the wall in those meetings to hear what was so bad that it dove Mike Wang away after just ~1 year. Hopefully he can fix 2K's problems now.
There you go...

 
# 29 thmst30 @ 02/02/10 05:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joka2122
He's good but not that great. All in all, it is good news Wang is part of the 2k team now. I guess he can officially be called a man W***E.
I'm not saying they're in trouble because Wang is gone. I'm saying that because sales were terrible this year, and the guy who is known as being the biggest sim developer completely disagrees with how Live is being produced. That doesn't exactly spell success.
 
# 30 TreyIM2 @ 02/02/10 05:50 PM
I am truly upset at this news. I couldn't stomach another NBA2K and Live FINALLY came out decently enough to grab my money ONLY this year. I truly hope the Wang influence is enough to carry Live 11 through but based on what MW has said about the direction of Live 11, I have serious enough reason to doubt that EA is doing the right thing with Live 11.
 
# 31 jyoung @ 02/02/10 08:08 PM
Only a matter of time now before the Live series goes the way of MVP Baseball and NCAA Basketball.
 
# 32 carnalnirvana @ 02/02/10 08:27 PM
well like mike said he is an on the court guy hopefully it shows next season and we get spot on control
 
# 33 carnalnirvana @ 02/02/10 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Court_vision
If he can implement LIVE's control + play sets and play calling...it's game over anyway. There'd be no point buying anything other than 2K11.

Long term it seems there won't be any competition...hopefully the 2K guys are driven enough to put out a good game every season even though there's no competition.
like i said before after seeing what ea has done with madden and fifa i wont bet against them. they will regain the sales numbers in 2 yrs, sales does not mean good product for them

by that point i like you will be playing something else because for ea with high sales sim gameplay goes out the door a la fifa

however i think live 11 will be a good game
 
# 34 CX1329 @ 02/02/10 09:21 PM
I don't understand the FIFA bashing. It's the closest to a soccer/football sim we can get right now, given that the PES series has gone arcade. PES10 isn't as horrendously arcadish as the ping pong fest that was PES 2009, but it was still not up to the standards PES 5 and 6 had set. FIFA, on the other hand, plays a realistic game of soccer/football if you don't look for exploits.

But that's beside the point. Like CV, I might not be buying Live 11 this year, depending on the quality of the demos, especially if Mike Wang does something about the horrid controls found in 2K10. I hate the controls in 2K10, and by hate, I mean it. It doesn't completely ruin the experience for me, but I often find myself unable to have as much fun with the game as some people here because of the downright awful isomotion.

Another thing that NEEDS to be addressed is the speed at which the defense rotates and recovers. It continues to spoil the game just as much as it did in 2K9, and 2K tried to make up for it by giving us stupid jumpshots that are too quick, difficult to learn, and unrealistic. Trying to run a perimeter based offense is like a ballet of stupid in 2K10.

Live 10 got both of these things right, and if Wang could just take that experience and use it to fix the issues for 2K11, then that would make 2K11 the ultimate basketball simulation.
 
# 35 RayAllen20 @ 02/02/10 09:37 PM
Bring defense, ballhandling, and momentum Beluba!!! Great news though!
 
# 36 JkA3 @ 02/02/10 10:13 PM
If I were Mike Wang I'd make the same move. It's pretty clear which game holds supreme.
 
# 37 cinders @ 02/02/10 11:39 PM
hope to get some of live's playcalling. Only thing that needs updating imo.
 
# 38 Gotmadskillzson @ 02/02/10 11:46 PM
We all so pumped for a game that isn't coming out for another 8 months. 2K can only go up from here. EA however is at a cross road. Will they keep the current engine or just scrap it and start all over again.
 
# 39 Dantecamp21 @ 02/02/10 11:58 PM
I'm not taking sides on this one, although I can't see how 2K11 development won't benefit from adding what is perceived (and rightfully so) as the best b-ball gameplay designer around.

But Bryan Wiedey from Pastapadre.com gave us a interesting point of view about the situation on his site. Basically, he said that the EA Canada structure hasn't prevented the NHL and FIFA series from being both stellar games. Today, these 2 franchises (together with MLB The Show) are the standard by which excellence is measured in every sports game.

He also said that it would be unwise by EA Sports to went the arcade way with its supposed "serious" basketball product once you realize all the buzz that NBA Jam has been generating. We know it's only a Wii game, but many believe the game will eventually be available as a DLC on both Xbox Live Marketplace and PlayStation Network. Remember, the Madden Arcade downloadable game uses the Madden Wii engine.

At the same, he believes Live 11 will be a make or break year for the franchise, as everybody around here (including me).

I think there are some solid facts backing his points and it makes us wonder what truly happened on this whole Mike Wang fiasco.
 
# 40 Parasight @ 02/03/10 12:40 AM
If only the 2K team could steal the EA Sports Online Team, so we could finally have the game work online (especially Crews). But I guess that's a pipedream.

Really happy about Mike coming back though. It sounds like NBA Live is heading in a more casual-friendly direction as opposed to the sim experience, in attempts to get better sale figures.
 


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