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Pros
MLB Today Presentation is top notch, very rewarding gameplay on the field, My Player mode is great.
Cons
Graphics are sub-standard, spotty AI decisions, problematic Franchise mode issues.
Bottom Line
MLB 2K11 lacks graphical polish and misses out on some finer details, but it makes up for those shortcomings with fun gameplay on the field.
7
out of 10
Major League Baseball 2K11 REVIEW

Major League Baseball 2K11 Review (Xbox 360)

We recently changed how we do our reviews. Read about the new process here, then check out the new scoring guidelines and revised scoring rubric.

Article 1: Initial Impressions
Article 2: Initial Online Impressions
Article 3: Mid-Review Update
Article 4: My Player and Franchise Impressions


For the past couple years I have been rooting for the MLB 2K series. At one point on the last-gen consoles, it was a masterful series. But when MLB 2K6 came out on the current-gen consoles, the franchise unfortunately spiraled out of control. That downward spiral culminated in MLB 2K9, one of the more disappointing games in recent memory. However, I thoroughly enjoyed MLB 2K10 despite its flaws, and I had very high hopes for MLB 2K11.

So did MLB 2K11 find its source of power this time around, or did it just find another way to swing and miss?

Gameplay

On the field, MLB 2K11 plays a solid game of simulation baseball. Revised contact windows at the plate lead to an impressive amount of hit variety, and the revamped fielding system -- while it does shortchange some guys and expose some attribute faults -- places a renewed emphasis on player abilities. The default offensive camera angle is a site to behold, and the gesture-based analog pitching is still the best pitching system in a video game to date.

2K just needs to add some additional polish to the game. There is some frustrating slowdown when a ball is put in play; running animations and some swinging animations look out of place or just plain wonky; and frustrating bugs, like a player running through an outfield wall to catch a home run, are just hard to look past.

Online

As I mentioned in the online article listed at the top of the review, MLB 2K11 seems to play a smoother technical game online than it does offline. However, the lack of any type of in-game presentation beyond the commentary is a difficult pill to swallow, especially when you even have to pause the game to see who’s currently batting.

Even with this flaw, online play is relatively lag free and can be a lot of fun depending on your opponent. If you can stomach the bare-bones approach to presentation, there is definitely a lot of fun to be had online with this title.

Presentational Realism

Here’s the area where 2K really hits its highest highs and lowest lows. From a broadcast-presentation standpoint, the game's MLB Today commentary and statistical overlays are second to none. Unfortunately, the game's graphics, players models and lack of small baseball nuances are severely lacking.

For a company that prides itself on integrating “signature style” into its sports games, 2K should be extremely disappointed with how some of these players look. There is no reason why a veteran player like Ramon Santiago should be graphically represented as a tan Caucasian with a goatee. The same could be said for a player like Miguel Tejada, who looks nothing like himself in this game. Even more disappointing is how bad some of the game's batting stances look (Miguel Cabrera), and just the amount of players with substantial service time who were given generic player photos and models.

One final note worth mentioning is the ineptitude of the CPU AI at times. CPU managers will leave relievers in games too long, multiple players will at times converge on a ball, which leaves a base uncovered, and there have been multiple instances where a CPU base runner was clearly safe on a steal attempt yet the umpire called him out.

It’s the little details in this game that are missing, and it's a problem that many sports gamers will notice. That being said, I don't want the brilliance of MLB Today, as well as the commentary and presentation associated with it, to be overlooked either. John Kruk especially stands out in this area, and the amount of TV-style polish here is simply incredible.



Simulation Realism

MLB 2K11 is a stat-head's dream game. Simulation stats look spot on sans the league leading home run totals, which only seem to get into the 30s. There is no doubt that simulated seasons will look different depending on what version of MLB Today’s constantly updating rosters you download and bring into your franchise. Also, for anyone interested in playing MLB Today games, the dynamic statistics based on real-world player performances promises to inject some life into the Quick Play game mode.

Please note: In the five years of Franchise mode I simulated and played through, I did not notice any long-term player progression or statistical issues.

Franchise and Career Modes

This title features a good My Player mode and Franchise mode. In My Player it is still fairly easy to progress to the majors, so higher difficulty levels are suggested for those looking to walk in the shoes of a true minor-league player. Regardless, this is a fun mode to lose yourself in for hours at a time.

Franchise mode is bolstered by some good AI logic -- no really insane trades here -- but the mode has some problems, both new and old. The new problems include the game's new injury system and malfunctioning fatigue system, both of which I detailed in my earlier article about the Franchise mode.

A new issue I noticed since writing that article is actually an old problem that has been in MLB 2K before. Essentially, big-time players who are about to be free agents (think about guys like Pujols and Fielder this year) will pretty much always re-sign. The real problem with this is that these players sign for below-market value, and it leads to a free-agency market that tends to be filled with just average players, all the while teams have all this extra money to spend but no one to spend it on.

I can only a hope a patch is inbound soon to address these issues. While each issue can be handled with certain house rules and extensive edits, the problems are hard to look past if you are really into Franchise mode.

Final Thoughts

MLB 2K11 falls a little short of taking that next big step towards greatness. Even with the enjoyable gameplay, this game lacks polish. From the lack of attention given to player faces -- the new body types are a welcomed addition -- to the constant frame-rate hiccups when a ball is put into play, it is difficult to look past such issues that should not be appearing in a major sports title. While some may disagree, big-budget titles can't just survive with solid gameplay. These types of games also need outstanding visuals, presentation and attention to detail to truly separate themselves from the rest of a very competitive sports gaming pack. MLB 2K11 only nails a couple of those aspects.

In short, MLB 2K11 is a good game, it’s just unfortunate that 2K has not quite figured out how to add the little things that could make it great.


Learning Curve: Once you nail down the game's slick analog controls, you should have no problem playing like a pro.

Control Scheme: Analog pitching and hitting both feel fluid, and the new throw meter is one of the best I’ve experience in a baseball game.

Visuals: A mixed bag that ultimately hurts the overall package.

Audio: Commentary and crowd noise are dynamic and on point.

Score: 7.0 (Good)


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Member Comments
# 41 Garrett67 @ 03/21/11 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kernel Pie
I love this game and will play it all summer, but even I can admit that the graphics, cut-scenes, and animations deserve a solid minus 2 demerit in my opinion. Baserunning is horrid, swings on replays are cringe-worthy, cut-scenes of pitchers are moronic, and the list goes on and on. Some animations are good, but on the whole, they are a failure. That puts the highest possible score for this game, at an 8.

The gameplay imo, deserves no demerits at all. Pitching is great, hitting is great, and the fielding is vastly improved. Game outcomes are varied, sliders work well, and the AI is more than acceptable. You can easlily obtain accurate MLB averages with some tweaks here and there--sign of a great gameplay engine.

The sound deserves a .5 demerit imo. Yes, the commentary is the standard for all other sports games and the crowd noise is great. But the one aspect of the sound that is really lacking, is the PA system. The songs are not baseball specific, the announcer screws up names, and there is not enough organ or baseball vibe. They also play "Rearview Mirror" over and over. Maybe this is a petty demerit, but a baseball game without 'Take Me Out To The Ballgame?" or all the other great baseball songs? Gotta do it.

That leaves intangibles, for which I see no demerits at all. MLB today is really fun, the franchise is deep once injuries are patched, and the rosters are updated really well with real-life performance affecting a players performance in game. So no demerits here.

So that leaves my score at 7.5. Could have been an easy 9 if not for the animations and graphics, which are seriously dragging this game behind. Great game though, for people who appreciate gameplay--like me.
Perfect post.. I agree with this totally.

I'm thankful I'm playing on PC with the graphics cranked, otherwise I'd take another tick off the total
 
# 42 DickDalewood @ 03/21/11 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kernel Pie
I love this game and will play it all summer, but even I can admit that the graphics, cut-scenes, and animations deserve a solid minus 2 demerit in my opinion. Baserunning is horrid, swings on replays are cringe-worthy, cut-scenes of pitchers are moronic, and the list goes on and on. Some animations are good, but on the whole, they are a failure. That puts the highest possible score for this game, at an 8.

The gameplay imo, deserves no demerits at all. Pitching is great, hitting is great, and the fielding is vastly improved. Game outcomes are varied, sliders work well, and the AI is more than acceptable. You can easlily obtain accurate MLB averages with some tweaks here and there--sign of a great gameplay engine.

The sound deserves a .5 demerit imo. Yes, the commentary is the standard for all other sports games and the crowd noise is great. But the one aspect of the sound that is really lacking, is the PA system. The songs are not baseball specific, the announcer screws up names, and there is not enough organ or baseball vibe. They also play "Rearview Mirror" over and over. Maybe this is a petty demerit, but a baseball game without 'Take Me Out To The Ballgame?" or all the other great baseball songs? Gotta do it.

That leaves intangibles, for which I see no demerits at all. MLB today is really fun, the franchise is deep once injuries are patched, and the rosters are updated really well with real-life performance affecting a players performance in game. So no demerits here.

So that leaves my score at 7.5. Could have been an easy 9 if not for the animations and graphics, which are seriously dragging this game behind. Great game though, for people who appreciate gameplay--like me.
I STILL haven't pulled the trigger on picking this up for my number two baseball game this year, but posts like this certainly help me edge closer and closer to making that decision.

Good impressions.
 
# 43 nymets12 @ 04/18/11 05:05 PM
does anyone have this in their franchise mode in like the late innings the game starts getting laggy
 
# 44 iluspook @ 05/17/11 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Celtic34
I completely disagree with this review. This game and NBA 2k11 if you look at the graphics are identical. NBA 2k11 gets a great review and is heralded as the best basketball game ever because there is no competition. They are using the same graphics engine. 2k is designing a multiplat game and is relegated to what both the xbox 360 and ps3 can do. The 360 hardware is simply not capable of doing what the show is doing on the ps3 which is specifically designed for it.

If you look at both games the show and 2k, they are nearly identical, minus the player models and shading are "dumbed down". 2k has added a little more as far as control and options as far as mlb today and a deeper franchise mode, smoother online play, where the show has sharper graphics and is a bit more polished.

But whatever. I simply don't think some of the people reviewing these games have any idea what developers are relegated too when designing them. 2k11 is simply a multiplat title. If you look at NBA 2k11 vs the Show you will see the same lack of detail in the graphics and animations in comparison. There were also various framerate issues when nba 2k11 was first released due to it being released on multiple platforms which a patch eventually fixed.

Play both games and tell me they are that different in theory. But this game gets a 7? Please... Fanboyism at it's finest. Someone needs to take their Show goggles off.

This review just strikes me as someone who loves the show and thinks it's better so they are going to nitpick the heck out of this game. NBA 2k11 has no competition and is your favorite game and you are a fanboy, so you are going to say how awesome it is.

In my opinion 2k has released a baseball game that rivals their NBA game and a baseball game that rivals the show with just less in the graphics department and AI in spots. They are relegated to designing this game for the hardware at hand where the Show is at an advantage being a single platform game. All in all there isn't a huge difference between the two minus surface stuff.

It's just true and you know it.

This review just doesn't depict how good this game actually is. You seem to be focusing on the negative. Will the Show lose 3 points because their online play is still laggy? That's a much bigger deal to me then graphics that look a little pasty. The Show has these great graphics but they sort of forgot that would be hard to get to work online too well. So much for the show being so incredibly balanced. Online play is sort of a big deal these days.

How about what this game gets right? The main factors they most definately do. Add in MLB today, GAMEPLAY, improved animations, improved commentary, improved control on both sides, a deeper franchise mode, and this game is an 8.5 in my book. Where the show is about a 9 due to its graphics and polish. The gap is shrinking.
I'm not sure if someone commented on this, but the difference between both The Show and 2K11 is staggering! I don't even mean that statement as "The Show is so much better, and 2K11 is terrible", not in the slightest, but both games are styled COMPLETELY differently. I'm glad you're having fun with 2K11...that's the point of buying and playing it! It plays a VERY fun game of baseball!

What the reviewer is talking about in the polish of the graphics and "little things" is how The Show represents the tiniest nuances of a baseball game, from everyone wearing the number 42 on April 15, to the player interactions that have nothing to do with executing a game of baseball. If you played both games, you'll realize that The Show does SO much more with the small things that make baseball so much fun. 2K11 has TONS of these small things too, like people hanging on the wall ******ly if a ball is unreachable, but for every animation like this it has some wonky fielding animation to counter, and doesn't have a tenth of the minor nuances that are present in The Show.

Now, 2k11 is finally an excellent game! I'd actually give it an 8, and I also don't believe the graphics are that terrible (although I think NBA does have slightly better graphical detail). Both games are going to be fun for different people, and I think this is the first year that only the most jaded and ignorant can say "my game is SOOOO much better than yours", because they are both competitive with each other now. Again, though, they play very differently and are not the same except for graphics...if you haven't yet, try out The Show and you'll see what I mean. You may very well have more fun playing 2K11, and there is certainly nothing wrong with that at all.

I believe this year, The Show is better, but not by that much, and if 2K11 keeps on pace then The Show has a lot to contend with next year!
 
# 45 iluspook @ 05/17/11 01:34 PM
er...meant to put the comment "same except for graphics" in pseudo quotes to recap the reply post. The Show obviously has better graphics and detail, and didn't meant to confuse.
 

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