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Player Faces Have Greatly Improved in MLB The Show 17 (Polygon)

  09:05 AM - February 14, 2017 by tree3five

Polygon has posted a new MLB The Show 17 article on the improved player faces and lighting we will see in the game this year. These improvements will also be seen in Road to the Show, as the team has bumped up from 17 heads to over 40.

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It's all about the lighting on the faces, how light affects the skin tone and how light affects the skin tone when it's being shadowed by a ballcap," Russell said. "The lighting we had last year wasn't perfect, and we were basically dimming everything and giving you too much energy from nowhere, for a guy with a ballcap on. Now in real life, if you have a ballcap on, that shadow is being created, but you still have light energy coming from the ground.

They have also included a couple of screenshots showing off the faces of Clayton Kershaw and José Altuve from MLB The Show 16 vs. MLB The Show 17.


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# 61 Pompeo89 @ 02/16/17 09:18 PM
The transformation on Kershaw is unreal...I wish they could make the RTTS faces look like this


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# 62 Syce @ 02/16/17 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pompeo89
The transformation on Kershaw is unreal...I wish they could make the RTTS faces look like this


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umm they will? it will be how all faces should be with the new lighting in game.
 
# 63 parky_17 @ 02/17/17 03:26 AM
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umm they will? it will be how all faces should be with the new lighting in game.
Not exactly, from the video shown the created still looked different from the real players that have been shown... although they are highly improved from last year's game

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# 64 bacon96 @ 02/17/17 10:46 AM
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Not exactly, from the video shown the created still looked different from the real players that have been shown... although they are highly improved from last year's game

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I think you may be referring to videos from the previous build.
 
# 65 parky_17 @ 02/17/17 10:50 AM
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I think you may be referring to videos from the previous build.
No, the video from gamespot the other day where Ramone was showing off the new create a player stuff





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# 66 HypoLuxa13 @ 02/17/17 11:22 AM
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No, the video from gamespot the other day where Ramone was showing off the new create a player stuff





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1) from this comparison, it will still be quite obvious who the CAPs are and who are face scanned.
2) Work. In. Progress. Ramone mentioned skin tones specifically were being worked on still.

Still, much more robust CAP. We will definitely see more variety than previous games where so many generated players looked noticeably the same but with different hair/facial hair.

But I don't buy The Show for the player creator ability, that is well down my list of priorities. I buy for game play and I've said before, the new ball physics alone have sold me on MLB 17.
 
# 67 douggoud @ 02/17/17 07:22 PM
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Not exactly, from the video shown the created still looked different from the real players that have been shown... although they are highly improved from last year's game

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These are just a few players I pulled from the gamespot video and I ask you (aside from the 1920's black boxer I put last) these guys look like people you could see playing and have a hard time telling that they're CAP's right? Because that's how I see it.

Ramone did say right before looking at these that they weren't done refining the palette for the CAP guys, my guess is that they got the darker skinned guys down so far and are still fixing the lighter skinned guys, because all of the darker skinned CAP's look pretty darn believable to me, even more so with facial hair. The average Joe that they started with before randomizing though looked to have the same skin as the one from 16 so I'm sure that they're working on that part.

Honestly though, what game even has perfect created players? Because I've yet to see them in any sports game personally (then again, I've only played The Show and NBA 2K), I'll take these CAP's over the rest.
 
# 68 parky_17 @ 02/17/17 07:25 PM
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These are just a few players I pulled from the gamespot video and I ask you (aside from the 1920's black boxer I put last) these guys look like people you could see playing and have a hard time telling that they're CAP's right? Because that's how I see it.

Ramone did say right before looking at these that they weren't done refining the palette for the CAP guys, my guess is that they got the darker skinned guys down so far and are still fixing the lighter skinned guys, because all of the darker skinned CAP's look pretty darn believable to me, even more so with facial hair. The average Joe that they started with before randomizing though looked to have the same skin as the one from 16 so I'm sure that they're working on that part.

Honestly though, what game even has perfect created players? Because I've yet to see them in any sports game personally (then again, I've only played The Show and NBA 2K), I'll take these CAP's over the rest.
You obviously didn't read the last line of my post or look at the pics I added to it

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# 69 douggoud @ 02/17/17 07:30 PM
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You obviously didn't read the last line of my post or look at the pics I added to it

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I did actually, and responded as such if you read mine.
 
# 70 parky_17 @ 02/17/17 07:35 PM
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I did actually, and responded as such if you read mine.
Well you said you'd have a hard time telling that they are CAP's, as in they looks just like the real players, which is not the case as you can see by the screenshot I showed of Kershaw and the created guy
I'm not saying the CAP look bad because they don't but they don't look like the real players that have face scans

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# 71 douggoud @ 02/17/17 07:44 PM
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Well you said you'd have a hard time telling that they are CAP's, as in they looks just like the real players, which is not the case as you can see by the screenshot I showed of Kershaw and the created guy
I'm not saying the CAP look bad because they don't but they don't look like the real players that have face scans

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And as I said in the middle part of my response:

"my guess is that they got the darker skinned guys down so far and are still fixing the lighter skinned guys, because all of the darker skinned CAP's look pretty darn believable to me, even more so with facial hair. The average Joe that they started with before randomizing though looked to have the same skin as the one from 16 so I'm sure that they're working on that part."

AKA, the guy you posted.

I'm not saying they're perfect. And by no means are the lighter skinned guys as good looking to me as the darker skinned dudes, they still look like they're from 16 personally. What I've been saying is that the guys I posted are pretty hard to tell apart from the real face scans (within reason, and I'm mostly referring to the second guy, because he looks fantastic IMO). I was referring to the 4 I posted when I said having a hard time telling BTW, most of the rest of them were average, like you said, which is why I picked the 4 I picked. I mostly responded to you to show you those 4.
 
# 72 parky_17 @ 02/17/17 07:49 PM
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And as I said in the middle part of my response:

"my guess is that they got the darker skinned guys down so far and are still fixing the lighter skinned guys, because all of the darker skinned CAP's look pretty darn believable to me, even more so with facial hair. The average Joe that they started with before randomizing though looked to have the same skin as the one from 16 so I'm sure that they're working on that part."

AKA, the guy you posted.

I'm not saying they're perfect. And by no means are the lighter skinned guys as good looking to me as the darker skinned dudes, they still look like they're from 16 personally. What I've been saying is that the guys I posted are pretty hard to tell apart from the real face scans (within reason, and I'm mostly referring to the second guy, because he looks fantastic IMO). I was referring to the 4 I posted when I said having a hard time telling BTW, most of the rest of them were average, like you said, which is why I picked the 4 I picked. I mostly responded to you to show you those 4.
Fair enough

To me they still look as if you'll easily be able to spot them out from the real players but they do still look really good for created players




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# 73 douggoud @ 02/17/17 07:53 PM
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Fair enough

To me they still look as if you'll easily be able to spot them out from the real players but they do still look really good for created players




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Agree to disagree and all that right?

That aside, the farther we get away from the PS3 I'm sure they'll keep getting better. Not even NBA 2K has that great of CAP's IMO
 
# 74 parky_17 @ 02/17/17 07:54 PM
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Agree to disagree and all that right?
Pretty much [emoji6]

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# 75 douggoud @ 02/17/17 07:55 PM
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Pretty much [emoji6]

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Darn, didn't finish my edit in time hahaha
 
# 76 parky_17 @ 02/17/17 07:57 PM
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Darn, didn't finish my edit in time hahaha
Ha, I definitely agree with the edited part [emoji2]

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# 77 douggoud @ 02/17/17 08:00 PM
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Ha, I definitely agree with the edited part [emoji2]

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All they need is expansion mode/team creation for franchise and a big story thing for RTTS like NBA 2K or FIFA and I'll be able to die happy

(guess we'll see what RTTS has this year, I'm excited I'll tell you that)

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During the facebook stream, when he was going through the list of teams to show us examples of player faces, he scrolled right past the Braves to show Dee Gordon. I shed a tear! Wanted to see Freddie Freeman!
He skipped right on past the Angels too and Mike Trout and I only caught a slight glimpse I feel your pain.
 
# 78 WaitTilNextYear @ 02/17/17 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by douggoud
All they need is expansion mode/team creation for franchise and a big story thing for RTTS like NBA 2K or FIFA and I'll be able to die happy

(guess we'll see what RTTS has this year, I'm excited I'll tell you that)



He skipped right on past the Angels too and Mike Trout and I only caught a slight glimpse I feel your pain.
Imagine having an accurate Mike Trout face scan in this game. This would be a first to my knowledge. Let's hope they tossed him into the scanner.
 
# 79 douggoud @ 02/17/17 09:35 PM
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Imagine having an accurate Mike Trout face scan in this game. This would be a first to my knowledge. Let's hope they tossed him into the scanner.
I'm pretty sure Mike already has a face scan in the game

But yeah Mike's face has looked a little off in past iterations but I'm willing to chalk that up to the lighting. I bet that 17 will have fixed that and he'll look spot on! The Scherzer and Rizzo comparisons blew me away and they had the same scan. No doubt that Trout will do the same.

Honestly, you'd be surprised how much a good lighting system will do for a model in game. Good lighting can make a bad model look good, while bad lighting can make a good model look bad. Lighting and shaders can bring the best out of things. I'm sure that almost every face scan will look spectacular as the ones we've seen so far. And it has me pumped for March 28th
 
# 80 ShowTyme15 @ 02/17/17 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by douggoud
I'm pretty sure Mike already has a face scan in the game

But yeah Mike's face has looked a little off in past iterations but I'm willing to chalk that up to the lighting. I bet that 17 will have fixed that and he'll look spot on! The Scherzer and Rizzo comparisons blew me away and they had the same scan. No doubt that Trout will do the same.

Honestly, you'd be surprised how much a good lighting system will do for a model in game. Good lighting can make a bad model look good, while bad lighting can make a good model look bad. Lighting and shaders can bring the best out of things. I'm sure that almost every face scan will look spectacular as the ones we've seen so far. And it has me pumped for March 28th
Mike Trout never had a face scan. In fact he's refused to have his face scanned (When SCEA shows up in spring to do it. It's not mandatory for the players to have their face scanned either.). Also, SCEA has asked Mike Trout to do some things in the past and he's always declined.
 


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