07:48 PM - July 30, 2016 by DIRK41NOWITZKI
2K has just released another NBA 2K17 screenshot, this one featuring the 1992 Dream Team with Charles Barkley.
You can see the 2016 USA Basketball Men’s National Team with Coach K here.
NBA 2K17 News Post
07:48 PM - July 30, 2016 by DIRK41NOWITZKI2K has just released another NBA 2K17 screenshot, this one featuring the 1992 Dream Team with Charles Barkley.
You can see the 2016 USA Basketball Men’s National Team with Coach K here.
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They haven't had him right since the ps3 days.
Seeing as we've pressed on to the new, more powerful generation of consoles, there should be no reason why we shouldn't be seeing IMPROVEMENTS in the appearances, not downgrades, which are blatantly evident.
As mentioned several times now, 2k should outsource the legends art work to pc modders - they'd do a stand up job, judging on some of the stuff I've seen from them.
A picture taken from the 'Will MJ look like MJ this year?' thread:
Seeing as we've pressed on to the new, more powerful generation of consoles, there should be no reason why we shouldn't be seeing IMPROVEMENTS in the appearances, not downgrades, which are blatantly evident.
As mentioned several times now, 2k should outsource the legends art work to pc modders - they'd do a stand up job, judging on some of the stuff I've seen from them.
A picture taken from the 'Will MJ look like MJ this year?' thread:
They really blew it with MJ this time around. May I suggest this guy instead...?
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GQ Magazine clowning
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Welcome back the legendary 1992 USA Basketball “Dream Team” in #NBA2K17! Pre-order NBA 2K17 http://2kgam.es/BuyNBA2K17
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Yo @NBA2K speak to my lawyers!@SportsNation #LarryRapaBird
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kris @kris_nation
Michael Jordan in 2k17 LMAOOOOOO
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Champ ✔ @ChampChong
LOL why does Michael Jordan look so weird in NBA 2K17? 😂😂
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NBA 2K 2K17 ✔ @NBA2K
Welcome back the legendary 1992 USA Basketball “Dream Team” in #NBA2K17! Pre-order NBA 2K17 http://2kgam.es/BuyNBA2K17 pic.twitter.com/CfgkaZ1WX1
Brayden McMahan @brayden_mcmahan
@NBA2K wtf is this pic.twitter.com/R89Ja6rXxF
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http://www.gq.com/story/michael-jord...social_twitter
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NBA 2K 2K17 ✔ @NBA2K
Welcome back the legendary 1992 USA Basketball “Dream Team” in #NBA2K17! Pre-order NBA 2K17 http://2kgam.es/BuyNBA2K17
3:45 PM - 30 Jul 2016
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MichaelRapaport ✔ @MichaelRapaport
Yo @NBA2K speak to my lawyers!@SportsNation #LarryRapaBird
8:06 PM - 1 Aug 2016
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kris @kris_nation
Michael Jordan in 2k17 LMAOOOOOO
6:09 PM - 30 Jul 2016 · Boston, MA, United States
13 13 Retweets 30 30 likes
Champ ✔ @ChampChong
LOL why does Michael Jordan look so weird in NBA 2K17? 😂😂
4:06 PM - 30 Jul 2016
51 51 Retweets 112 112 likes
30 Jul
NBA 2K 2K17 ✔ @NBA2K
Welcome back the legendary 1992 USA Basketball “Dream Team” in #NBA2K17! Pre-order NBA 2K17 http://2kgam.es/BuyNBA2K17 pic.twitter.com/CfgkaZ1WX1
Brayden McMahan @brayden_mcmahan
@NBA2K wtf is this pic.twitter.com/R89Ja6rXxF
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Good...if the forum can't light some fire under the art teams *** hopefully other media will....
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MarkWilliam @ 08/10/16 12:29 AM
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ForeverVersatile @ 08/10/16 01:53 AM
This is the reason I don't play with the Legends. Some look decent and other just look jacked up. Having MJ look that bad is a little crazy to me. 2K definitely needs to hire some new 3D artists.
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Just to go against the grain a little bit here, it seems 2k's biggest problem with the classic players is they don't look as good as last gens versions, I think we can all agree on that, but I ask the ones who feel like they totally dropped the ball on the current gen classic players, would you rather what we have now or nothing at all?
I ask this because I guarantee most of us would be a lot easier on 2k if they just started this classic teams and players thing in 2k14 on current gen instead of 2k11, the main thing we would say is I am just glad its in the game and since they cant scan their faces I understand, but what keeps the conversation going is the 2k11 and 2k12 versions of the classic players that looked so good.
I guess I am just glad 2k didn't say that the classic players don't look up to par with what we had last gen so lets just scrap the whole thing and hopefully the customers will understand, because they could have gone that route.
I ask this because I guarantee most of us would be a lot easier on 2k if they just started this classic teams and players thing in 2k14 on current gen instead of 2k11, the main thing we would say is I am just glad its in the game and since they cant scan their faces I understand, but what keeps the conversation going is the 2k11 and 2k12 versions of the classic players that looked so good.
I guess I am just glad 2k didn't say that the classic players don't look up to par with what we had last gen so lets just scrap the whole thing and hopefully the customers will understand, because they could have gone that route.
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I'm eternally grateful to 2k for even giving us this opportunity to use such incredible teams from yesteryear.
That said, as consumers, we shouldn't automatically give them a pass on this kind of thing. The legends have been visually lackluster since last gen, they've had 3 years to improve them so far, and we've not really seen much in that department.
I dunno, feels like we're damned if we give out constructive criticism, and damned if we don't.
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Their work has been so bad that they can`t even put the "Celtics" name right in a jersey. Instead, they put "Boston" in the 2008 squad`s chest. WTF??????
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This is what scares me because I don't want 2k to think they are just wasting their time with classic teams because they think we don't appreciate what they do by bashing how the players look, but in the same breathe its VERY important how the players look esp, with how detailed these games are and with 4k gaming right around the corner it will only be more noticeable of the flaws if 2k doesn't correct it.
But with all that said fix Jordan's face and 2k wont hear a peep from me about anyone else lol.
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If the art team don't have enough time or resources to do a stand up job like they used to, then outsource it to the PC modding community. You hire the right guys, they'll smash it out of the park.
As discussed many times before, 2k is primarily about online & fantasy modes now, so things like the classic teams just get knocked to the back of the pecking order.
Sad, but looks to be true.
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I hear you on MJ - do that, and all is forgiven!!
They won't pull the plug altogether. MyTeam is a bigger seller for them and legends are a big part of that.
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hanzsomehanz @ 08/10/16 11:42 AM
I feel like all the backlash is fuel for their marketing campaign because face scans is not a deal breaker for the major pop. of consumers.
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But Madden does the same thing without actually having classic teams in the game so 2k could still get away with it, but for guys like me who don't play MYTEAM it would be of no use.
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In fact, 2K exceeded all my expectations when it comes to classic teams. I never thought they'd be possible in basketball because I figured it'd mean they'd have to go secure all the individual rights of players, since they couldn't skirt by with editable names and generic faces like historic teams in NFL 2K5 and NHL 2K tended to do.
Fortunately for all of us fans and gamers, 2K11 happened. And unfortunately for next-gen designers, 2K11 happened.
In all honesty, if 2K17 was the first time we'd ever received classic teams, I'd be thrilled. But we've lived through 2K11 (and 2K12), so you can't close Pandora's box. In this case, 2K is a victim of their own incredible commitment to detail. I mean, for crying out loud, they literally had cyber MJ turn to the viewer at home and ask, "Are you ready?" before running out of the tunnel at Chicago Stadium.
I'm still really happy the classics are still around (and not too many have been cut). It seems like they easily could have been left behind on last gen. That said, now that we've seen what they can be, it's tough to settle for less (in some cases, a lot less). 2K11's classics were such an incredible base that I figured the state of classic teams would have been otherworldly by the time we reached 2K17. Instead, it's almost as though we've gone in reverse (actually, that's exactly what's happened).
Consider a few of the things 2K11 offered during their inaugural classics push:
-18 classic teams (8 for the Bulls alone)
-Different jersey textures depending upon the era (1991 Bulls jerseys had that plastic shine on the numbers while the mid- to late-90's Bulls teams, correctly, did not)
-Wonderful bulk of custom Michael Jordan animations (cuff dunk, free throw line dunk, soaring one-hand leaner, two-hand pump, one-handed ball fake, wrist-slap reverse, etc.)
-Custom commentary for most classic starters and teams
-A mode devoted to classics
-Jordan's tongue
-The context-driven moments where Jordan would shrug his shoulders if he connected on six treys in the first half against Portland, or when Scottie Pippen would guide him to the sideline during the Flu Game
Then consider what was added in 2K12:
-Just about every one of the greatest NBA players of all-time accounted for (excluding a few such as Charles Barkley and George Mikan)
-A mode devoted to all those classic players
-36 classic teams
-Era-appropriate accessories (knee-high striped socks, Chuck Taylors)
-Era-appropriate scorers tables, basket stanchions, etc.
-Era-appropriate rules (one free throw for non-shooting defensive fouls in the 60's, jump balls after each quarter, etc).
-Era-specific filters and audio (black & white with tin can audio in 60's, standard def with generic computer overlay graphics in the 80's, just-about-modern-but-not-quite in the 90's (NBC-ish).
-Current players retro-fitted to match their younger likenesses (Tim Duncan had his '98 haircut and goatee, Frobe, etc)
-Signature dunk and layup packages for many classic players, including but not limited to: Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dominique Wilkins, Karl Malone, Tim Duncan, Shaquille O'Neal and Shawn Kemp.
-A DLC 3-on-3 add-on that brought aboard even more classic players (with an XBox semi-hack ability of adding those players to actual rosters)
-The ability to download individual create-a-player DNA's to fill out the missing roster slots as needed (ex: former roster creator PortlandBlazer would crank out near life-like editions of guys like Nick Van Exel)
-Authentic arena music for the given era (organ, soundtrack, differentiating buzzer sounds)
On top of everything else, even without the benefit of face scans, most of the legends looked outstanding (save for a few longstanding issues like Vinny Del Negro and Mark Price).
Considering such a stellar two-year stretch, I think a lot of us were dreaming where 2K classics would be by 2K17. Maybe guys like David Robinson and Penny Hardaway would get themselves signature dunk packages by now too. Maybe the era-filters would be pre-game selectable options. Maybe shorts length and goggles would be selectable options in create-a-team or team/player edit. Maybe there'd be a new moments mode, where players re-create big moments (a la Jordan Challenge) but with everyone else, like 2K13's mobile game supposedly employed.
Instead, classic players and teams have become more and more generic by the year. Less authentic dribble moves, signature dunk packages biting the dust, Michael Rappaport taking over for Rod Stewart as a Larry Bird stand-in, less MJ moves, no more era-specific baskets, tables, sounds, filters, or rules. No mode incorporating historic moments. More stringent roster editing (from what I've understood, there was no single player download option and rosters kept on having to be loaded over and over). So on and so forth.
The cat's out of the bag. We've known what 2K's been capable of on the classic front. We understand if they aren't the priority year in and year out. I just wish they didn't have to go backward.
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Incredible post, covering all bases.
100% agree with everything here.
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