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Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

11:13 AM - July 21, 2016 by smiley3

EA Sports has continued revealing their Madden NFL 17 player ratings today, as they announce the top 5 quarterbacks in the game. More detailed ratings can be seen in the official blog.

Check them out and post your thoughts!

Aaron Rodgers (Overall 96)
Cam Newton (Overall 94)
Tom Brady (Overall 94)
Ben Roethlisberger (Overall 93)
Russell Wilson (Overall 91)

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# 121 Sheba2011 @ 07/24/16 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake07


	Cam is the MVP from last season but Rodgers is rated higher?

Because Rodgers is the better QB. MVP doesn't mean best in the league or best at his position, in fact these days it doesn't mean much of anything in sports. If MVP was a serious award JJ Watt would have a closet full of awards by this point.

# 122 oneamongthefence @ 07/24/16 05:45 PM

My take on the Rodgers/Brady argument is this: Overall I think Aaron Rodgers is the more complete quarterback. He can make tight throws, throws on the run, he's got a cannon. He can move really well.
Tom Brady has a better coach. Its up to Brady to make the right reads and he usually does that pretty well. The pats games that I watch and i don't watch many it always amazes me how wide open his receivers are. It looks like watching a college game sometimes there's so much separation. They don't really have a downfield passing attack but they when they do they set it up really well.
Last year Green Bay had Jordy Nelson hurt the entire year. Cobb is a slot receiver through and through. James Jones put up decent numbers. Davante Adams is young and inexperienced. Their TEs aren't anything special. Eddie Lacy was very average.
I think Bill Billichek is better at maximizing talent. I think we'll see that when Jimmy Garropolo plays pretty well for 4 weeks.

When it comes to Madden, I would think the majority would choose Aaron Rodgers over Tom Brady. He's a more complete player. So he should be better in game.

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# 123 carnalnirvana @ 07/24/16 05:53 PM

tom brady should be number 1

# 124 Find_the_Door @ 07/24/16 07:20 PM

Cams accuracy is simply way too high for a guy that finished with lower than 60% completion percentage.

He's supposed to be the ultimate physical specimen but be an inconsistent passer. Hopefully consistency is a rating and that he's rated to play with inconsistency - then these ratings would be fine.

# 125 Find_the_Door @ 07/24/16 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Yazan Gable


	He did make them better. That's how bad what he had to use was. He was still an exceptional quarterback, but he was in a bad situation.Legendary no-name receivers such as 19th overall pick Marvin Harrison, 30th overall Reggie Wayne, 22nd overall Demaryius Thomas, 82nd overall Emmanuel Sanders, 87th overall Eric Decker, 4th overall Edgerrin James and 30th overall Joseph Addai (they caught passes too.) Let's not forget 24th overall Ty Law, 65th overall Deion Branch, 42nd overall Rob Gronkowski, Hall of Fame no-name receiver Randy Moss, 32nd overall Ben Watson, 56th overall Shane Vereen. I mean, just loaded with terrible, undrafted day 3 players.

Heck Romo breathed life into an aging Terry Glenn, made an undrafted Miles Austin a pro bowler. Got Laurent Robinson paid as well.

# 126 Yazan Gable @ 07/24/16 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Find_the_Door


	Cams accuracy is simply way too high for a guy that finished with lower than 60% completion percentage. He's supposed to be the ultimate physical specimen but be an inconsistent passer. Hopefully consistency is a rating and that he's rated to play with inconsistency - then these ratings would be fine.

You do know that his scheme was not conducive to high completion percentages right? There's a difference between being in an offense that requires you to throw down field often (Panthers, Cardinals) and an offense where you're throwing screens and short passes and letting the receiver collect yards after the catch (Redskins, Patriots). It's a silly argument if you notice that their offenses are very different.

# 127 charter04 @ 07/24/16 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Yazan Gable


	You do know that his scheme was not conducive to high completion percentages right? There's a difference between being in an offense that requires you to throw down field often (Panthers, Cardinals) and an offense where you're throwing screens and short passes and letting the receiver collect yards after the catch (Redskins, Patriots). It's a silly argument if you notice that their offenses are very different.

You make a good point but, Carson Palmer threw for 63.7 in a vertical passing offense last year. So Cam still shouldn't even be as accurate as Palmer.

# 128 Yazan Gable @ 07/24/16 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by charter04


	You make a good point but, Carson Palmer threw for 63.7 in a vertical passing offense last year. So Cam still shouldn't even be as accurate as Palmer.

Except for the fact that one guy had 3 phenomenal receivers (John Brown/Malcolm Floyd/Larry Fitzgerald) and the other guy had Ted Ginn Jr., Jerricho Cotchery and Devin Funchess. At least he had Greg Olsen when he wasn't using the guy in 7-man protection because his offensive line was not good at pass blocking.

# 129 87Birdman @ 07/25/16 12:56 AM

Not sure how I feel about Brady's deep accuracy. He isn't very accurate throwing down the field and a large majority of his passes are the shallow crossing routes with some seam routes by the te.

Every time I watch him he struggles with those throws outside the numbers and down the field.

I would be okay with 99 rating for his short because he lives off of those routes and he puts the ball where his receivers can make plays. I just feel his deep isn't that great as the rating is showing up compared to others.

On the overall it doesn't bother me that brady isn't as high as he is great at what is asked of him and that is running that offense and I don't think there is any other qb in the league that would run it as good as him.

Does he have stats that others have that he isn't good at? Yeah. Speed throw on run deep accuracy. But if we are able to set schemes that will readjust the overall correctly than I think it is fine.

You aren't going to be asking Tom Brady to run a wilson offense in Seattle just like you wouldn't have can running brady offense. So hopefully the rating based off scheme works so that the computer isn't cutting good players for players that don't fit their scheme.

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# 130 Find_the_Door @ 07/25/16 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Yazan Gable


	You do know that his scheme was not conducive to high completion percentages right? There's a difference between being in an offense that requires you to throw down field often (Panthers, Cardinals) and an offense where you're throwing screens and short passes and letting the receiver collect yards after the catch (Redskins, Patriots). It's a silly argument if you notice that their offenses are very different.

They tailor the offense to his strengths. Not his weaknesses

# 131 The JareBear @ 07/25/16 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 87Birdman


	Not sure how I feel about Brady's deep accuracy. He isn't very accurate throwing down the field and a large majority of his passes are the shallow crossing routes with some seam routes by the te. Every time I watch him he struggles with those throws outside the numbers and down the field. I would be okay with 99 rating for his short because he lives off of those routes and he puts the ball where his receivers can make plays. I just feel his deep isn't that great as the rating is showing up compared to others. On the overall it doesn't bother me that brady isn't as high as he is great at what is asked of him and that is running that offense and I don't think there is any other qb in the league that would run it as good as him. Does he have stats that others have that he isn't good at? Yeah. Speed throw on run deep accuracy. But if we are able to set schemes that will readjust the overall correctly than I think it is fine. You aren't going to be asking Tom Brady to run a wilson offense in Seattle just like you wouldn't have can running brady offense. So hopefully the rating based off scheme works so that the computer isn't cutting good players for players that don't fit their scheme. Sent from my SM-G900R4 using Tapatalk

Good post, good sir.

It does seem like Brady doesn't connect on his deep passes anywhere near as often as he used to. I don't watch him week in and week out tho, so I definitely am not an expert on his accuracy.

# 132 Yazan Gable @ 07/25/16 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Find_the_Door


	They tailor the offense to his strengths. Not his weaknesses

That means nothing in this case. He was still in an offense that prioritized deep passing so that depressed completion percentage. He was throwing to mediocre wide receivers down field with pass blocking inadequate enough to require lots of 7-man protection which further brought down his completion percentage. Your response isn't a counterargument, it's just an attempt to point out that this is what Cam Newton is supposed to be good at and thus should have a higher completion percentage. It does not dispute the fact that a deep passing offense with questionable pass blocking and mediocre wide receivers is going to lead to low completion percentages.

# 133 Find_the_Door @ 07/25/16 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Yazan Gable


	That means nothing in this case. He was still in an offense that prioritized deep passing so that depressed completion percentage. He was throwing to mediocre wide receivers down field with pass blocking inadequate enough to require lots of 7-man protection which further brought down his completion percentage. Your response isn't a counterargument, it's just an attempt to point out that this is what Cam Newton is supposed to be good at and thus should have a higher completion percentage. It does not dispute the fact that a deep passing offense with questionable pass blocking and mediocre wide receivers is going to lead to low completion percentages.

I don't disagree. I just find it funny that he's the one QB that they make an exception for in this regard. Let's analyze his offense since his completion percentage is so low. Wonder why others aren't afforded the same benefit of the doubt.

# 134 Yazan Gable @ 07/25/16 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Find_the_Door


	I don't disagree. I just find it funny that he's the one QB that they make an exception for in this regard. Let's analyze his offense since his completion percentage is so low. Wonder why others aren't afforded the same benefit of the doubt.

They aren't exactly consistent if Marcus Mariota is lower rated than Jameis Winston and Philip Rivers is lower rated than Andy Dalton despite the other 10 starters on offense sitting in the injury ward.

# 135 jmurphy31 @ 07/25/16 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The JareBear


	Good post, good sir. It does seem like Brady doesn't connect on his deep passes anywhere near as often as he used to. I don't watch him week in and week out tho, so I definitely am not an expert on his accuracy.

Im obviously a huge brady fan and I will agree his deep passing isn't great by any means. Part is he has nothing but slot receivers who are undersized and can't go up and get a ball. The last deep throw a wr actually went up and made a play was the tyms catch vs buffalo. Edelman and amendola are great route runners and gronk is a beast.

But dont forget that dime brady dropped to gronk on 4th and like 20 vs the broncos in the final minutes. Pretty accurate ball. But when he goes deep I hold my breath most times. He just floats it up there and it usually incomplete and sometimes picked. It's almost looks as if he just throws it deep every now and then to keep defenses honest.

# 136 Itzr @ 07/25/16 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CM Hooe


	Cam I will give you without argument, speaking to his ability as a passer at least (he's probably the best running QB in the league). However, there is nothing Brady can individually do that Rodgers can't, and Rodgers is better throwing on while moving than Brady is while being generally far more athletic. Brady simply cannot make the game-winning play Rodgers did in the 2013 Week 17 game against Chicago, he's never had that kind of athleticism to go with his top-flight passing skills. Before you say anything about rings or QB Wins, bear in mind that those are team achievements and not at all good indicators of individual talent.

You think Brady can do everything Rodgers can? How often do you see Brady moving out of the pocket throwing darts down field well off balance. When does Brady throw a 40 yard bomb well fading away from his pass. No doubt Brady is one of the greatest if not the greatest to ever play. However at this point in his career he is the second best quarterback, maybe even the third behind Big Ben, in the league.

# 137 Itzr @ 07/25/16 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jwing7


	I can't stand Brady but he is the best QB in the league.

I disagree. You should watch the NFL Top 100 and how Rodgers puts fear into the minds of defensive players. He is more dynamic than Brady is. Brady is top 5 all time but he is not the best quarterback in the league currently. The patriots fans I know even agree Brady is great but he is not the top of the league, but he is number 2 or number 3.

# 138 Sheba2011 @ 07/25/16 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Itzr


	You think Brady can do everything Rodgers can? How often do you see Brady moving out of the pocket throwing darts down field well off balance. When does Brady throw a 40 yard bomb well fading away from his pass. No doubt Brady is one of the greatest if not the greatest to ever play. However at this point in his career he is the second best quarterback, maybe even the third behind Big Ben, in the league.

The argument one way or the other means very little coming from someone from Wisconsin or New England, as we are both biased towards our guy. A Patriots fan could make that same argument you made tailoring it to Brady. Personally I would say Brady and Rodgers are tied, it is pointless to say which is better in which situation as they play under different circumstances and play the game differently. Just like Montana and Young. They are all great QB's who will be first ballot HOF'ers.

# 139 Sheba2011 @ 07/25/16 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Itzr


	I disagree. You should watch the NFL Top 100 and how Rodgers puts fear into the minds of defensive players. He is more dynamic than Brady is. Brady is top 5 all time but he is not the best quarterback in the league currently. The patriots fans I know even agree Brady is great but he is not the top of the league, but he is number 2 or number 3.

If you are going to use the NFL Top 100 as a reference, you can't then go and say Rodgers is better than Brady. That contradicts your point. According to the Top 100 Cam and Brady are 1/2.

# 140 Find_the_Door @ 07/25/16 07:07 PM

Where's Romo at? Hopefully at least 89. Had an anomaly of a year with two injuries.

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