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Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

07:54 PM - July 1, 2016 by Steve_OS

For those of you following the story on MLB The Show 16 bans, SCEA has posted an update on the situation.

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	Our goal for MLB The Show 16 is to maintain a fair and competitive game community. It is absolutely paramount for us that the integrity of our online play, particularly modes like Diamond Dynasty where so many of our fans invest so much of their time and passion, remain intact. As such, we are constantly monitoring the server for unusual or potentially exploitive behaviors. We recently discovered a glitch in the Community Market was being taken advantage of to double user Stubs and cards. In many cases, this was apparently done hundreds of times. In addition to violating the terms of service, this conduct gives abusing players an unfair advantage over others, negatively impacting gameplay and the shared marketplace. In order to restore balance as quickly as possible, we suspended approximately 200 user accounts that were exhibiting unusual behavior as we worked to diagnose and fix the exploit. Again, our top priority is to protect the broader community and the integrity of their experience with The Show. With the vulnerability now addressed, we�ve gone deeper into the telemetry and are reactivating select accounts. As always, we will strive to improve our ability to communicate these types of situations as they arise and develop. We�re grateful for the understanding and patience of the entire MLB The Show community, and for helping us make this the best place to play baseball. If you have any questions or concerns, please email [email protected].

If you were one of the "approximately 200 user accounts" that were banned, let us know if your ban was lifted or not. No official word has been given on whether lifted users will receive any sort of compensation.

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# 41 Factzzz @ 07/02/16 06:08 PM

Man reading all those posts in the other thread from people claiming with such conviction that the banned were guilty and deserved of the banning is straight comedy now that the bans have been lifted.

That's why you should never really speak on something when you don't know all of the details. Today's a good day for those wrongly accused, and they get to enjoy the one of the best video games on the market again.

# 42 oski96 @ 07/02/16 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear


	You're not wrong, but that doesn't make it ok for you as a user to just do whatever and expect them to compensate you for whatever you did. Compensation for time lost grinding for stubs is one thing, but replacing things they didn't force you to get rid of is quite another. I mean what innocent gamer would get rid of their game right away if they still wanted to play it? I could understand getting rid of the disc on principle or to protest, but you can't expect to gain compensation afterward.

I don't disagree with that. However, you are also addressing a pretty unusual situation and applying standards of rational behavior which probably do not apply in this case.

This is really an outlier - If you have seen this happen anywhere before, I'd like to know about it. SDS simply banned a bunch of accounts, refused to provide and straight-forward information, stated the bans were "irreversible" and finally after 4 days, just simply lifted most of the bans.

I have a hard time sympathising with the company that actually causes this whole mess and would expect them to at least extend an offer to help clean up the mess - especially towards those that were unfairly treated.

Again, if this was handled with some tact, maybe there would not be the same problems - but here, you basically had SDS go quite while Ramone taunted and publicly embarrassed those asking for information. To my knowledge, those people Ramone "beat down" (as referenced in a news article about the bannings) were all innocent and had their accounts reinstated.

If I'm SDS, I'm sending this gentleman a new copy - and happily so. I'd be grateful that this person still wants to play the game.

# 43 WaitTilNextYear @ 07/02/16 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by oski96


	I don't disagree with that. However, you are also addressing a pretty unusual situation and applying standards of rational behavior which probably do not apply in this case. This is really an outlier - If you have seen this happen anywhere before, I'd like to know about it. SDS simply banned a bunch of accounts, refused to provide and straight-forward information, stated the bans were "irreversible" and finally after 4 days, just simply lifted most of the bans. I have a hard time sympathising with the company that actually causes this whole mess and would expect them to at least extend an offer to help clean up the mess - especially towards those that were unfairly treated. Again, if this was handled with some tact, maybe there would not be the same problems - but here, you basically had SDS go quite while Ramone taunted and publicly embarrassed those asking for information. To my knowledge, those people Ramone "beat down" (as referenced in a news article about the bannings) were all innocent and had their accounts reinstated. If I'm SDS, I'm sending this gentleman a new copy - and happily so. I'd be grateful that this person still wants to play the game.

I agree with you completely that this was a most unusual situation, hence my morbid curiosity about it. lol. I could also see SDS offering some form of compensation, but more likely in the form of packs, stubs, and hopefully an apology/clarification rather than replacing discs.

The one thing I would disagree on with you here is that SDS caused this issue. Where I can understand that interpretation, I see the chronic glitch-exploiters as the ultimate cause of both this specific inquisition as well as SDS's overall approach to "ban first and ask deeper questions later" here. In responding to the continual culture of glitch exploitation that slants the market so that many gamers get frustrated, the company clearly made a mistake in overreaching their evidence in this instance. The root cause, imo, is the people who make a "living" exploiting glitches.

# 44 RLB @ 07/02/16 07:17 PM

This sure was not handled very professionally, the hacking on people on Twitter and whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Frankly the game this year just didn't feel right from the start, it felt like we were the testers/QC department right off the start. Tons of bugs have been reported with some that seem like a minor fix that have not been touched. The physics with the PCI and ball at times are horrible, outfield fences showing wrong distances, weird shifts on a few players, some players have huge heads, SOTS downloaded music volumes are low, the outfield fence at Coors that SDS requested pictures of.....took me 30 seconds to find that on Google. Maybe they spent to much time planting Easter eggs and making sure their faces are scattered throughout the crowd instead of fixing the things that really matter.

So when the online bunch figured out how to increase their stubs they did it. The game allowed it, so who's fault is that really? It's not like the clerk at the grocery store give you back to much change....that is where you test someone's integrity.

Maybe next year they should give the game out two months before release to thirty upstanding individuals and designate each a team to play with for one month to locate bugs/issues. This would give SDS a month to fix it before release. At least the game will be tested by folks that know baseball inside and out.

# 45 Ghost Of The Year @ 07/02/16 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RLB


	Maybe next year they should give the game out two months before release to thirty upstanding individuals and designate each a team to play with for one month to locate bugs/issues. This would give SDS a month to fix it before release. At least the game will be tested by folks that know baseball inside and out.

I just wish MLB would let SDS go back to an early March release where thousands can test the game & have most problems ID'ed by Openeing Day. I realise some wouldn't want to be "testers" of this sort, so they could still buy the game early April.

# 46 oski96 @ 07/02/16 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Of The Year


	I just wish MLB would let SDS go back to an early March release where thousands can test the game & have most problems ID'ed by Openeing Day. I realise some wouldn't want to be "testers" of this sort, so they could still buy the game early April.

We already are "testers" - just in April instead of March.

# 47 countryboy @ 07/02/16 08:01 PM

And now the thread is quickly turning into lets take shots at SDS.....

Way to go guys....

par for the course these days.

# 48 KBLover @ 07/02/16 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Of The Year


	I just wish MLB would let SDS go back to an early March release where thousands can test the game & have most problems ID'ed by Openeing Day. I realise some wouldn't want to be "testers" of this sort, so they could still buy the game early April.

Or have an "Early Access" you can buy into with the understanding that you're playing a beta version. Then when it's release day, Early Access players download patch to make them up to release while everyone else can just buy like normal. Maybe throw on some incentives for the Early Access folks, have "feedback contests" something to encourage even more bug finding, etc. I remember one year I got a cap from buying the game (09 was it? Maybe 06?) something like that - or maybe if the top 3 bug finders get a nice prize or something.

That way, you'd get some beta testers in to pound the game before release and find the issues and test the systems in place. Maybe even have folks TRY to exploit things. Heck, encourage it. Make it an event to find the loopholes.

I don't know - maybe that's too "out there" but I think something could be done.

# 49 Ghost Of The Year @ 07/02/16 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KBLover


	...Maybe even have folks TRY to exploit things. Heck, encourage it. Make it an event to find the loopholes. I don't know - maybe that's too "out there" but I think something could be done.

This would be ideal. A lot of cutting edge companies already do this.

# 50 cardinalbird5 @ 07/02/16 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	Glad to see that SDS is reinstating those accounts who weren't too erroneous in their actions.

You mean those that did absolutely nothing?

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# 51 countryboy @ 07/02/16 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cardinalbird5


	You mean those that did absolutely nothing? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah sure....

# 52 cardinalbird5 @ 07/02/16 09:03 PM

Lol love seeing the ones in here having a hard time admitting they were wrong! I swear some of u prbly were hoping the bans didnt get removed. Peace everyone!

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# 53 countryboy @ 07/02/16 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cardinalbird5


	Lol love seeing the ones in here having a hard time admitting they were wrong! I swear some of u prbly were hoping the bans didnt get removed. Peace everyone! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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# 54 RLB @ 07/02/16 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	And now the thread is quickly turning into lets take shots at SDS..... Way to go guys.... par for the course these days.

Nope, just a comparison of the only glitch that I am aware of that directly effected them and how quickly it was resolved along with calling a lot of folks cheaters and thieves and the many glitches on our end that still haven't been resolved.

Since I named several issues I also offered a possible solution.

# 55 countryboy @ 07/02/16 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RLB


	Nope, just a comparison of the only glitch that I am aware of that directly effected them and how quickly it was resolved along with calling a lot of folks cheaters and thieves and the many glitches on our end that still haven't been resolved. Since I named several issues I also offered a possible solution.

Explain it how you want, it still is what it is.

# 56 extremeskins04 @ 07/02/16 09:42 PM

Honestly this thread kinda disgusts me. So now that SDS is trying to resolve the situation, many of you turn to bashing them.

This must be the very first video game you've ever played.

Don't ever try an MMORPG. Like, ever.....because this kind of stuff happens all the time. And people don't get unbanned.

# 57 countryboy @ 07/02/16 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by extremeskins04


	Honestly this thread kinda disgusts me. So now that SDS is trying to resolve the situation, many of you turn to bashing them. This must be the very first video game you've ever played. Don't ever try an MMORPG. Like, ever.....because this kind of stuff happens all the time. And people don't get unbanned.

Because its the cool thing to do.

SDS was put into a very difficult situation. They handled it the best they could and how they saw fit. Could it have been handled differently? I guess, but hindsight is always 20/20. But instead of everyone saying, "hey they handled it how they saw fit and in the end have remedied the situation" we get.."I want a new disc for free because I got rid of mine!" "We are SDS BETA testers" "Insert cool sarcastic comment here"

# 58 kehlis @ 07/02/16 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	Explain it how you want, it still is what it is.

It is what it is? I get that you don't want to admit you were wrong but at least just ignore the thread rather than fuel the fire.

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	Who said they didn't deserve it? The people that got banned? Of course you're going to have those who got banned say they didn't deserve it and offer up the excuse that they unknowingly did this exploit. Of course you are. Everyone that gets caught is innocent in their own mind. I'm sorry, but I don't believe that SDS just willy nilly started banning people just for the sake of banning.

You were adamant with your thoughts on what happened. You were wrong.

Probably better off just dropping it.

# 59 countryboy @ 07/02/16 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kehlis


	It is what it is? I get that you don't want to admit you were wrong but at least just ignore the thread rather than fuel the fire. You were adamant with your thoughts on what happened. You were wrong. Probably better off just dropping it.

Ok boss...I'll back out of the thread.

# 60 Knight165 @ 07/02/16 10:39 PM

Were those reinstated actual bans?

From the initial report here posted on O.S. the statement said suspensions with POSSIBLE bans.

Does anyone know exactly what the deal was with those accounts?

M.K.
Knight165

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