03:49 PM - June 17, 2016 by smiley3Check out the latest Madden NFL 17 video showing off the new broadcast presentation package. A small gif is shown above, check out the full video here.
Madden NFL 17 News Post
03:49 PM - June 17, 2016 by smiley3Check out the latest Madden NFL 17 video showing off the new broadcast presentation package. A small gif is shown above, check out the full video here.
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# 81
CyberRudy25 @ 06/19/16 12:00 AM
Add story Builder From NCAA 14 to cfm website . I don't think it would be hard to do. It Could be patched .
Most of the NCAA developers work for Madden now. All employed by easports.
http://www.easports.com/dynasty/storybuilder
Most of the NCAA developers work for Madden now. All employed by easports.
http://www.easports.com/dynasty/storybuilder
I like this style of pre game presentation MUCH better than NCAA 14's pre game presentation if we wanna compare the two. If NCAA 13 did it as well I can't remember but personally I hated that they took out the tunnel entrances and replaced them with what NCAA 14 did. To me it didn't make sense for pre game stuff. I could see something like what Madden is doing this year actually happening. Don't forget guys we haven't seen the full broadcast package in motion yet.
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Im sure, if EA had developed player intros with guys saying their names, and high schools, or stupid names for the colleges they played at and put that in the game before a network did, people would have freaked out on EA too. But because a network did it first, it's ok. I mean, we see these "swagger" type things to intros on Sundays, mondays and thursdays all the time presently, just... a touch differently. Each network does it their own way.
I just dont see the big deal here. It may not resemble a network broadcast you're used to on Sunday, Monday or Thursday, but it sure looks alot network like to me. Just, not one you're used to. Lets not forget, afterall, this is just a video game.
Exactly. And video games can do things real life can't. That's why we love them right? I know that's why I do.
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DickDalewood @ 06/19/16 02:10 AM
Overall I like it, but I definitely fall into the camp of believing that just because video games CAN do things real life can't doesn't mean they should (I.E. replay close-ups of the ball in the air vs. actually showing the play).
Honestly, what typically bugs me the most about Madden's presentation (which again, as a package I do think is pretty solid) is that they get some of the little details wrong. For example, nearing the end of a half or game, the presentation treats every timeout as a commercial break and big event. The dramatic music queues in and the QB runs to the sideline as the broadcast cuts to a replay. In a two minute drill of a real broadcast, a timeout is often called simply to stop the clock from running. The broadcast doesn't cut to commercial, etc., every time. I wish the game could understand those type of situations better, because the over-dramatized TO gets a little obnoxious... again, especially when I'm just using it as a clock stoppage.
Either way, the effort is definitely appreciated and I'm very anxious/excited to hear the new announcers in action.
Honestly, what typically bugs me the most about Madden's presentation (which again, as a package I do think is pretty solid) is that they get some of the little details wrong. For example, nearing the end of a half or game, the presentation treats every timeout as a commercial break and big event. The dramatic music queues in and the QB runs to the sideline as the broadcast cuts to a replay. In a two minute drill of a real broadcast, a timeout is often called simply to stop the clock from running. The broadcast doesn't cut to commercial, etc., every time. I wish the game could understand those type of situations better, because the over-dramatized TO gets a little obnoxious... again, especially when I'm just using it as a clock stoppage.
Either way, the effort is definitely appreciated and I'm very anxious/excited to hear the new announcers in action.
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Some of the camera angles, cutscenes, replays, makes me feel like all players/refs are wearing Go-Pros on their heads. There is no way a camera man sprints onto the field, grabs that perspective from ground to air (looking up at the player) that Madden loves to do. It's like there are wirecams all over the field. They're going to need to have a wirecam timeout when all the cameras get tangled together.
# 88
SageInfinite @ 06/19/16 05:46 AM
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The problem is, dudes who like to back their requests as SIM or realistic, go overboard, which is the point brandon27 is trying to make. For all you know this is the type of player intro some networks will use this season, what would you say then?
The game is not produced by CBS or ESPN, it's EA Sports and it's only logical they use their brand as broadcaster, that doesn't mean it is not broadcast style or even realistic.
The game is supposed to strive for simulation of the sport, not a simulation of broadcasting the sport. "What you see on Sunday's" refers to the action on the field not how we see it on tv.
How close to what we heard in the EA Play trailer do you guys expect the commentary to sound? Personally I think it will be exactly like that or really close, what do you guys expect?
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# 91
DeuceDouglas @ 06/19/16 08:02 AM
I liked the video board intro with Madden highlights. That was a really nice touch. Wouldn't have minded seeing them recreate those type of things for the QB intros as well because I think that would work a lot better than the NFL Films videos and could eventually even be used for generated players and QB's that change teams. Also gave me the idea of replicating MNF's intro with old MNF moments where maybe they use generated clips with some of the legends that they have in MUT.
I'm glad you mentioned this because it was exactly what I wanted to hit on. Aerial stadium shots, pre-game anthems and flyovers, authentic stadium team intros, stadium player intros, the post-game "this has been a presentation of the NFL" message, primetime team intros....they've done a lot of great things over the years when it comes to presentation that they've just abandoned.
My main issue is always that there is so little variation on so many levels that every game feels the same whether you're in the playoffs or playing a week 17 game between two 3-12 teams and it creates something that becomes stale very quickly. At first I didn't really like the player intros but the more I see them the more I think they'd be great for playoff games and/or the Super Bowl while using the old player intros for regular games. Like you said, they've done plenty over the years to provide multiple experiences and atmospheres to create a more unique and engaging experience. We should be well past and beyond the point of having a "Broadcast package" and well into different "packages" for primetime games, high intensity games, playoff games, Super Bowls, etc.
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My main issue is always that there is so little variation on so many levels that every game feels the same whether you're in the playoffs or playing a week 17 game between two 3-12 teams and it creates something that becomes stale very quickly. At first I didn't really like the player intros but the more I see them the more I think they'd be great for playoff games and/or the Super Bowl while using the old player intros for regular games. Like you said, they've done plenty over the years to provide multiple experiences and atmospheres to create a more unique and engaging experience. We should be well past and beyond the point of having a "Broadcast package" and well into different "packages" for primetime games, high intensity games, playoff games, Super Bowls, etc.
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Just a thought but perhaps they've been holding back on having different packages and high intensity games and things like that due to lackluster commentary. With the new commentary if they do it right, especially with their availability, it should open the door for them to do a lot more immersive presentation.
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Nobody wants their game to be the third string commentary team or the class d broadcast package. Like what fox or cbs use. That would be boring. EA wants presentation to be flashy to bring the casuals back.
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I kind of feel like presentation is going to be used to attract the casuals more too, with gameplay being more for the hardcore. Which I'm fine with as long as they keep the flashy presentation stuff in CFM authentic, MUT and draft champions can have flying monkeys in stadiums for all I care. I actually saw someone on Twitter say they would like to see Madden add survivor horror elements to the game[emoji849]
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One more thought on this:
Are people really advocating to limit the video game because of the limitations a real broadcast has? Like someone said earlier, if ESPN, FOX or CBS had the chance to do lineups like in Madden, they'd jump on it.
If the NFL would allow them to set go-pros on player's helmets, that would revolutionize the way football is watched.
If they would be allowed to have cameras all around the field at all heights without interfering with ball trajectory, they'd get all sorts of crazy close-ups, and not only on replays.
There's only two reasons why this doesn't happen:
Access from the players and player safety
A video game doesn't have this limitations so Madden is basically providing what networks dream of having, so I can't understand what the issue is.
Complaining about the broadcast elements missing some features and depth is one thing, and actually a fair complaint since we've had flyovers, great stadium shots from the blimp and team entrances not so long ago... But complaining that the game is not 100% copying what a network does is quite weird imo
I think presentation is the one aspect that will benefit the most from the Frostbite switch in the future, so one can only hope the missing depth to the presentation and feel of the game is coming in the near future
Are people really advocating to limit the video game because of the limitations a real broadcast has? Like someone said earlier, if ESPN, FOX or CBS had the chance to do lineups like in Madden, they'd jump on it.
If the NFL would allow them to set go-pros on player's helmets, that would revolutionize the way football is watched.
If they would be allowed to have cameras all around the field at all heights without interfering with ball trajectory, they'd get all sorts of crazy close-ups, and not only on replays.
There's only two reasons why this doesn't happen:
Access from the players and player safety
A video game doesn't have this limitations so Madden is basically providing what networks dream of having, so I can't understand what the issue is.
Complaining about the broadcast elements missing some features and depth is one thing, and actually a fair complaint since we've had flyovers, great stadium shots from the blimp and team entrances not so long ago... But complaining that the game is not 100% copying what a network does is quite weird imo
I think presentation is the one aspect that will benefit the most from the Frostbite switch in the future, so one can only hope the missing depth to the presentation and feel of the game is coming in the near future
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oneamongthefence @ 06/19/16 10:47 AM
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My opinion is gameplay keeps me going for so long but presentation keeps the game from being stale over the long term. Especially since I'm a mostly offline CFM player I need for it to feel fresh every time I put it in. I think having different presentation elements depending on day of the week or playoffs helps this immensly.
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# 98
SageInfinite @ 06/19/16 11:04 AM
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It's also my opinion that this is corny, even if networks did this, I'd think it was corny.
Also the game is striving to simulate the broadcast of the sport, they said it in this very video, hence the video intros. Tiburon taking creative freedom in presentation is fine, it's their game, I just don't like what they do.....
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# 100
DeuceDouglas @ 06/19/16 11:28 AM
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I don't know if it's so much advocating the limitation so much as it's just preference. I wouldn't be against the out of the box stuff if it didn't feel so out of place compared to everything else. I don't think any of the stuff they've done to go "beyond the broadcast" has ever made me go "Wow, I'd like to see that be able to be done in real life." It's always been the stuff that looks close and similar to real life that has wowed me the most personally.
I think another thing is how they like to throw around "authentic" as well. If you're trying to go beyond the broadcast then nail the authentic part and go beyond that. I'm not a huge fan of the mishmash between some authentic stuff and mostly beyond the broadcast type stuff. That's just my personal preference though which is all any of this will ever really be.
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