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PES 2017: Everything We'd Like to See Added

12:24 PM - May 9, 2016 by RaychelSnr

With Pro Evolution Soccer (PES) 2016 being out for over six months, it’s time to compile our annual “PES Wishlist” for the upcoming release, PES 2017. After spending countless hours playing and scouring the internet, we’ve experienced the good, bad and ugly that PES 2016 offers. With eyes towards the future, let’s have a look at some key features we’d like to see added and/or improved upon for 2017.

Note – this isn’t an “end-all-be-all” list but rather a high-level rundown of some of common issues plaguing PES 2016 and where we’d like to see the game go in future iterations.

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# 1 tbennett54 @ 05/09/16 12:44 PM

With creation, I would like if they add a "League Maker." Instead of replacing a league, we should be able to pick a country. So we could choose the US or Germany when making leagues.

Also, bring back stadium editor. I am getting tired of playing at the same stadiums during career. I know getting licenses is impossible, so let us create something that resembles White Hart Lane or the Etihad.

Get rid of regens that look and same names as retired players. It looks dumb and loses playable of career for me.

# 2 HenryClay1844 @ 05/09/16 02:05 PM

I have a hard time believing that Konami is going to devote the resources needed to make a game that can truly compete with FIFA. When you can't even get summer transfers done until November you're not doing it right. There is a decent game there, but it is way to clunky and limited when compared to FIFA. They need a huge step up in the editing features which are too time-consuming and didn't allow for nearly enough image importing. Personally I am underwhelmed with FIFA, when it compares to NBA2k and MLB the show, but PES isn't really offering an acceptable alternative at this point.

# 3 half-fast @ 05/09/16 04:41 PM

I think PES has the seed for something great. Online was the smoothest I've played this year, but hampered by other issues.

I think PES can win over a lot of disenchanted FIFA manager mode players by focusing on offline play first, getting the Fouls, Keepers, Animations and strategy depth down could win them a lot of sales.

# 4 adepoyu @ 05/09/16 04:53 PM

What I miss the most in PES are gameplay sliders. These are the only reason I go back to FIFA when PES underachieves.

Konami doesn't have the time or even doesn't care to have the rosters done, but at least lets us users do it ourselves with option files. Please Konami, let us fix the gameplay for you as well and give us some sliders to play with.

# 5 KennyJ1976 @ 05/09/16 05:12 PM

Please add, (If possible) a generic Bundesliga and 2. Bundesliga. Its a pain in the *** having to create it myself. Bring back every stadium, (Including generics) that has been taken out the game since PES 2013. Bring back stadium creator, why was it removed in the first place? Real times of day, not just day and night and all four seasons, not just summer and winter. Real time lighting would be nice too. We should be able to download and save live rosters. Finally, only a small gripe but please do something about the majority of players in the game wearing generic cleats. Those things are eye sores. Footballbootsdb should help you guys with that.

# 6 SVCbearcat10 @ 05/09/16 06:44 PM

Ditto about Bundesliga. I get why you can't have licenses, but at least have the league. I would love for option files to be back. I think this is a much more fun game than FIFA. Gameplay is better, much more variety between teams. It is unfortunate that I have to spend a full day or two worth of editing to get the BPL in.

Make it easier to edit teams, along with fixing Defensive AI, Fouls, and GK, it will easily be the most fun game on the market. FIFA will still be an overall better game, but this game should be more fun.

# 7 ty5oke @ 05/10/16 02:52 AM

Pretty good list. Hope Konami can actually do some of this.

# 8 thor-17 @ 05/10/16 08:49 AM

My most wanted improvement in PES 17 would have to be in the my player game mode. I want to be able to control/play as the entire team, ala FIFA, and set my player up for goals and assists. In my opinion, that would make it the only soccer some that mattered.

# 9 stevostl @ 05/10/16 03:12 PM

how can not wanting Konami and PES to introduce clubs online be on this list of things to see added ?

this is beyond me.. but this is the best modes in online sports video gaming that NHL EASHL started.. and then FIFA picked up but have since not upgraded the last few years..

and in PES.. one of the best things that made PES 5, or 6 or the old PES games on PS2 so famous is because it was the best multiplayer sports game offline by far back then and so addicting.

if Konami introduced this mode online to where they had clubs and the servers actually worked in PES.. this would be incredible for rejuvenating this series.

ONLINE PLAY in GENERAL should be KONAMI's top priority... until they make it their top priority they have no chance in to even remotely compete with FIFA.. ONLINE PLAY SHOULD BE #1 BEFORE EVERYTHING ELSE FOR KONAMI!

if they were able to actually able to have a good online... many people will not even buy FIFA just because of that... regardless of not having licenses or not.

# 10 Altimus @ 05/10/16 06:03 PM

I would argue it's all about game play for PES, always has been and this year it was kind of weak.

# 11 Matt10 @ 05/10/16 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Altimus


	I would argue it's all about game play for PES, always has been and this year it was kind of weak.

Yup. It was very, very, bad. What's the point of adjusting anything off the pitch if the on the pitch product was...bad?

# 12 C.J.S. @ 05/10/16 11:04 PM

Why not scrap everything except UEFA.
Put all resources into that with fully licensed everything in UEFA

# 13 stevostl @ 05/11/16 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt10


	Yup. It was very, very, bad. What's the point of adjusting anything off the pitch if the on the pitch product was...bad?

the gameplay in pes can be better for sure but to act like FIFA's game play is far superior is an exaggeration. most people who buy FIFA play it online and that is without the sliders.. that game play in some cases is not even better than PES. for me.. even FIFA with your sliders the gameplay is not far superior.

PES though obviously has some major flaws in the gameplay.. #1 being the foul system but some of the core gameplay, flow and pace of the match, and tactics is better than FIFA imo

FIFA online is probably the most popular sports game world wide.... and PES is still like 6 years behind it in this regard which is why it will never compete until they make it their #1 priority

# 14 Matt10 @ 05/11/16 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by stevostl


	the gameplay in pes can be better for sure but to act like FIFA's game play is far superior is an exaggeration. most people who buy FIFA play it online and that is without the sliders.. that game play in some cases is not even better than PES. for me.. even FIFA wit your sliders the gameplay is not far superior. PES though obviously has some major flaws in the gameplay.. #1 being the foul system but some of the core gameplay, flow and pace of the match, and tactics is better than FIFA imo FIFA online is probably the most popular sports game world wide.... and PES is still like 6 years behind it in this regard which is why it will never compete until they make it their #1 priority

Yeah, never said FIFA was superior, but it is at least playable - let's leave it at that.

The issue with PES 16 is the fact it's missing everything that made PES 6 great, and PES 13 the proper send off to the series. The new Fox engine handicapped the game to work within a very specific box, and never got out of that box. This was evidenced by the canned low shots on goal that the GK could never save, the defensive line retreating with the forward (versus holding their line), and every single shot looking like a blast of perfect contact.

Those are just some of the issues, tactics are effective, but so effective that it made the players robotic, and mindless. Also, the collision recognition system needs priority as the plays that look like fouls, need to be called - because it does look good.

The good thing is, those are the only true issues with gameplay. FIFA have a lot more issues from formation implementation, proper width, scale of pitch size, animations, misleading statistics - aka very basic football/soccer fundamentals. However, sliders give it an out in some areas - but they are definitely not saviors of the game, just make it playable.

# 15 strawberryshortcake @ 05/11/16 03:42 AM

Two things based on the PES16 demos:

(1) Less accurate passes; more passing errors for both the user and cpu; PES's passing is far too accurate. The ability to ping pong pass needs to be scraped. In order to make the passing feel more realistic, I decided to pass solely using the "through pass" button and that made a world of a difference. It felt much more lively. Unfortunately, there are no sliders or options to force the CPU to also use the "pass through mechanic" for all passing plays.

(2) Remove the button that you'd hold down to chase after the player with control of the ball. Stealing the ball with this tactic seems much too easy.

I was so certain upon playing both demos that I was going to buy PES16, but after having seen Matt10's twitch stream, he made me realize the flaw to PES's passing mechanics. I decided to forgo both titles unfortunately. My first and only soccer game was PES14. Never ever bought a FIFA title before, but the FIFA16 demo's passing mechanics and the stealing mechanics seems far superior to PES16's.

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Originally Posted by Matt10


	Yeah, never said FIFA was superior, but it is at least playable - let's leave it at that. The issue with PES 16 is the fact it's missing everything that made PES 6 great, and PES 13 the proper send off to the series. The new Fox engine handicapped the game to work within a very specific box, and never got out of that box. This was evidenced by the canned low shots on goal that the GK could never save, the defensive line retreating with the forward (versus holding their line), and every single shot looking like a blast of perfect contact. Those are just some of the issues, tactics are effective, but so effective that it made the players robotic, and mindless. Also, the collision recognition system needs priority as the plays that look like fouls, need to be called - because it does look good. The good thing is, those are the only true issues with gameplay. FIFA have a lot more issues from formation implementation, proper width, scale of pitch size, animations, misleading statistics - aka very basic football/soccer fundamentals. However, sliders give it an out in some areas - but they are definitely not saviors of the game, just make it playable.

You probably don't remember our very brief conversation (twitch stream) way back when the demo for both came out. I was curious about this whole "passing accuracy, passing error," or whatever the terminology that you specified was clearly superior in Fifa. You twitch streamed an old video of FIFA showcasing what you meant. Shouldn't the passing in PES17 be overhauled as well -- it is far to "accurate" in PES16.

# 16 KG @ 05/11/16 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevostl


	how can not wanting Konami and PES to introduce clubs online be on this list of things to see added ? this is beyond me.. but this is the best modes in online sports video gaming that NHL EASHL started.. and then FIFA picked up but have since not upgraded the last few years.. and in PES.. one of the best things that made PES 5, or 6 or the old PES games on PS2 so famous is because it was the best multiplayer sports game offline by far back then and so addicting. if Konami introduced this mode online to where they had clubs and the servers actually worked in PES.. this would be incredible for rejuvenating this series. ONLINE PLAY in GENERAL should be KONAMI's top priority... until they make it their top priority they have no chance in to even remotely compete with FIFA.. ONLINE PLAY SHOULD BE #1 BEFORE EVERYTHING ELSE FOR KONAMI! if they were able to actually able to have a good online... many people will not even buy FIFA just because of that... regardless of not having licenses or not.

Note – this isn’t an “end-all-be-all” list but rather a high-level rundown of some of common issues plaguing PES 2016 and where we’d like to see the game go in future iterations.

If I could write a list of EVERYTHING I'd like to see added it would be a full-on thesis, lol.

# 17 Chris200000 @ 05/15/16 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tbennett54


	With creation, I would like if they add a "League Maker." Instead of replacing a league, we should be able to pick a country. So we could choose the US or Germany when making leagues. Also, bring back stadium editor. I am getting tired of playing at the same stadiums during career. I know getting licenses is impossible, so let us create something that resembles White Hart Lane or the Etihad. Get rid of regens that look and same names as retired players. It looks dumb and loses playable of career for me.

Agree 100%

# 18 C.J.S. @ 05/18/16 04:34 AM

much better animations
much better lighting
no more running on rails
much better replays
smarter goalies

# 19 stevostl @ 06/01/16 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KG


	Note – this isn’t an “end-all-be-all” list but rather a high-level rundown of some of common issues plaguing PES 2016 and where we’d like to see the game go in future iterations. If I could write a list of EVERYTHING I'd like to see added it would be a full-on thesis, lol.

it was a good write up. Sorry I am just always let down by konami in terms of that the most with their games and was ranting a little there... I usually buy both footie games every year and I'm disappointed in something with both games every year too much. In konami it's the overall online and the fouls system. I think PES is actually closer to the better gameplay on the pitch though if they fix the big glaring issues.

I also see that some people have or want konami to make sliders for their new game. I disagree with that. I mean don't get me wrong it does good to have some options like I wish if there was one slider they had besides game speed and difficulty and pass support and shooting options... It's for the refs . I think they should have a slider for reffs on how strict they are. This would be a great addition to the PES series. I don't however think they need all the other sliders that FIFA has. That would do more harm than good.. PES doesn't need all that imo BUT if they added it I wouldn't complain... just don't think it's necessary like some do or that it should be a must need.

the greatest football games of all time imo are those without sliders.. and still are the best to me.

with that said. if they create sliders and it makes the game great for everyone.. then I'm sure I will like it as well.

# 20 PeruvianPlaya954 @ 06/03/16 03:16 PM

What do I want to see? ****ing fouls. Oh, and yellow cards. And red cards. And free kicks. And penalty kicks.

For ****'s sake.

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