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Madden NFL 16 CFM - Top 10 Things You Need To Know About Scouting (Shopmaster)

08:52 AM - August 11, 2015 by jpdavis82

Shopmaster has checked in with another Madden NFL 16 CFM video. While there isn't any footage from the actual game in the video, he talks about the top 10 things you need to know about scouting in this years game.

He goes over when scouting season starts, unlocking stats, combine stats, watch list and much more.

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# 61 SyncereBlackout @ 08/12/15 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Azcardinal32


	Since you have played, can you confirm if the generated draft classes have had the rating scale adjusted to match the overhaul to the current players? Forget scouting, this could be the real killer to cfm.

What if the generated draft classes are faster intentionally. So to phase out most players to match the average nfl career.

"According to the NFL Players Association the average career length is about 3.3 years. The NFL claims that the average career is about 6 years (for players who make a club's opening day roster in their rookie season)."

If that's true only a fraction of players drafted should be resigned. And a quarter or more of the stick teams should release or cut guys in the first 2 years of your CFM.

# 62 KickassJohnson @ 08/13/15 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by D13


	Seems like Madden just can't ever win with some folks...

A step towards pleasing more people would be providing an option to turn this or that on/off.. don't force people to do one or the other.. give us options

"Hey you gotta scout this year or you're penalized."
"Hey you can't edit any player in CFM because reasons."
"Hey you can't use custom draft classes anymore and you can't change the ones we give you either."
etc.

# 63 NYTitan21 @ 08/13/15 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Azcardinal32


	Since you have played, can you confirm if the generated draft classes have had the rating scale adjusted to match the overhaul to the current players? Forget scouting, this could be the real killer to cfm.

First draft class I saw had two WR who ran 4.27 and that equates to 98 speed once drafted (I took one to see what he came out as) there was also quite a few 97-95 wr.

The second class only had one wr who ran 4.27.

The fastest guy in the game stock is 97 speed, so automatically two wr were faster then anyone in the league.

# 64 Sheba2011 @ 08/13/15 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SolidSquid


	Word problems were by far he most realistic way to scout. It's basically exactly what happens when a coach sits down with his scouts in the off season. They don't say "CB X has a man coverage rating of A, press coverage rating of A, and zone coverage rating of D" they say "CB X is a press man corner who tends to get lost in zone coverage". They could even go the NBA 2k route and break it down to strengths and weaknesses "great ball skills, can run with any receiver, jams guys at the line consistently" "lost in zone, afraid to tackle, needs to become more aware" Not only is it more realistic but it also becomes a meta game in knowing what youre looking for in players and how to decifer the scouts info.

They would also need to add some degree of inaccuracy so you can't game the system. Make each scout have a differing degree and have some scouts better at say defensive attributes than offensive. Ultimately the only grade or ratings we should see is combine numbers everything else should be a scouting report style that could be right or wrong.

# 65 Khanchus @ 08/13/15 11:14 PM

I guess its unreal that fastest person in the game happens to be a rookie...

# 66 SyncereBlackout @ 08/14/15 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by NYTitan21


	First draft class I saw had two WR who ran 4.27 and that equates to 98 speed once drafted (I took one to see what he came out as) there was also quite a few 97-95 wr. The second class only had one wr who ran 4.27. The fastest guy in the game stock is 97 speed, so automatically two wr were faster then anyone in the league.

It shouldn't be unfathomable that a 21 year old is faster than a 25-28 year old.

# 67 Potatoes002 @ 08/14/15 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SyncereBlackout


	It shouldn't be unfathomable that a 21 year old is faster than a 25-28 year old.

There is a good handful of players every draft class that are more athletic than the elite players in the stock roster. It should not be this way. The issue appears to be the draft classes may have not been scaled like the regular roster.

Athletic traits are very expensive XP-wise in CFM, things like catching, route running, block shed, etc. are not. Maybe this changed in M16 but we haven't heard anything about it. I'm just worried the generated guys are going to become too overpowered.

# 68 mestevo @ 08/14/15 12:38 AM

Speed is only so useful. It's really, really important, but if the rest of their stats lead to fumbling then they can't return or run the ball, if they have poor hands they can't be a WR, etc. A lot of burners like that I've seen tend to be projects.

# 69 Potatoes002 @ 08/14/15 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mestevo


	Speed is only so useful. It's really, really important, but if the rest of their stats lead to fumbling then they can't return or run the ball, if they have poor hands they can't be a WR, etc. A lot of burners like that I've seen tend to be projects.

Speed has always mattered the most in Madden. When there is so few high 90's players in Spd/Acc/Agl on the default roster, wouldn't the generated guys coming in with these high ratings be even more useful now?

# 70 Potatoes002 @ 08/14/15 12:45 AM

I can't wait to actually get the game in my hands, I have so many things I want to dig into lol

# 71 SyncereBlackout @ 08/14/15 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Potatoes002


	There is a good handful of players every draft class that are more athletic than the elite players in the stock roster. It should not be this way. The issue appears to be the draft classes may have not been scaled like the regular roster. Athletic traits are very expensive XP-wise in CFM, things like catching, route running, block shed, etc. are not. Maybe this changed in M16 but we haven't heard anything about it. I'm just worried the generated guys are going to become too overpowered.

I understand but am reserving judgment. I 100% agree with you if the regression for the draft classes doesn't make them/their speed at par with stock roster players in 2-4 seasons.

Your worry about super freak rookies is valid. From what I've seen it depends on the leagues out there. Some have conservative stat padding rules so rookies won't have the XP to do damage. I've seen others where the top 10 qbs have 6500+ yards each. Those WRs are like pigskin terminators.

Garbage in, garbage out. If the league is sim, so shall be the players. The league I referenced above played sim, but the stats read NFL BLITZ. I wasn't shocked when half of the user teams had 10 or more 99 ovr players.

# 72 4thQtrStre5S @ 08/14/15 01:35 AM

I am liking the system that the scouting is going...NFL teams send out scouts throughout the college football season; with different scouts taking different regions of the USA; so it would make sense that you would have a weekly scout system..Why scout players after the season only?

This is a more realistic scouting system than being allowed to pool all your scout points to use at anytime...Scouting is a competition in itself, and if you don't scout to your fullest ability, you lose out...

# 73 SyncereBlackout @ 08/14/15 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 4thQtrStre5S


	I am liking the system that the scouting is going...NFL teams send out scouts throughout the college football season; with different scouts taking different regions of the USA; so it would make sense that you would have a weekly scout system..Why scout players after the season only? This is a more realistic scouting system then being allowed to pool all your scout points to use at anytime...Scouting is a competition in itself, and if you don't scout to your fullest ability, you lose out...

Amen. This is the truth. If you don't watch a player during the season you miss out (unless you watch tape) you can get workout data post season, but no game info.

# 74 DeuceDouglas @ 08/14/15 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 4thQtrStre5S


	I am liking the system that the scouting is going...NFL teams send out scouts throughout the college football season; with different scouts taking different regions of the USA; so it would make sense that you would have a weekly scout system..Why scout players after the season only? This is a more realistic scouting system then being allowed to pool all your scout points to use at anytime...Scouting is a competition in itself, and if you don't scout to your fullest ability, you lose out...

Just to play devil's advocate here since I don't like the scouting but when it comes to the game, what really is the difference of being able to do it week-to-week versus stockpiling until the end of the year? Okay, so it might be more realistic but that can be thrown out the window with how scouting is handled in the first place. You're getting the same info either way and if you scout the same guys you're getting the exact same info regardless. It's not like you get any sort of advantage, information wise, by doing it later the only thing sacrificed is any sort of convenience. I can't imagine many online leagues or players can enjoy this and as someone who does 32-team control this is going to be an absolute nightmare. Honestly, I could live with the way scouting was I just hate that there is no option to be able to play a different way.

# 75 jeremym480 @ 08/14/15 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by brza37


	I know its been said already but I also want to say that losing scouting points if you can't scout is awful for online CFMs. These leagues go year round. Everybody in a league has certain weeks where they just can't get on their console and play whether its an hour long game or 10 minutes for scouting and game prep. There is work and family responsibilities that keep people from playing during a given week and things like vacation, holidays, or illness that can force people to miss multiple weeks in game at a time. Last year people were already upset that they would basically lose the XP from Game Prep while they were away. Now they'll lose scouting points and fall even further behind? No matter how you want to support the idea that its "more realistic", the bottom-line is that its just not conducive to keeping online CFMs full and competitive year-round. If they at least added the ability to scout and do game prep online then maybe that could have at least softened the blow. All in all, I just really don't understand why they changed scouting. The system last year was good and the only thing missing was combine results.

Brza37 gets it!

When someone in a online CFM in on vacation or sick they're already at a big disadvantage by having the CPU play their games and losing XP (well at least losing control of who they want their XP to go to). Now they get the Triple Whammy of losing Scouting points too? That's just a really poor decision no matter how you slice it.

Perhaps if we could Scout online, then that would help some. However, Madden has never had a very user friendly website and I don't see that changing this year.

# 76 SolidSquid @ 08/14/15 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 4thQtrStre5S


	I am liking the system that the scouting is going...NFL teams send out scouts throughout the college football season; with different scouts taking different regions of the USA; so it would make sense that you would have a weekly scout system..Why scout players after the season only? This is a more realistic scouting system then being allowed to pool all your scout points to use at anytime...Scouting is a competition in itself, and if you don't scout to your fullest ability, you lose out...

here's the way I see it, I play as a Head Coach in cfm, during the regular season no head coach is scouting college players or calling scouts saying give me a scouting report on player X. There simply isn't enough time to work on your game plan, study opponents, get your team better and scout.

If they want to introduce Scout of a cfm character to go along with coach, owner, and player then yes scouting every week would make sense.

# 77 Sheba2011 @ 08/14/15 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Khanchus


	I guess its unreal that fastest person in the game happens to be a rookie...

It's not unreal at all, Chris Johnson was one of the fastest players his rookie year. What is unreal is if every rookie is faster.

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