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The Post-Up Game Is Getting Some Animation Love in NBA 2K16

10:51 AM - June 8, 2015 by Steve_OS

It's fair to say people in these parts are hungry for any and every piece of NBA 2K16 info at this point. So Zach Timmerman, a producer on NBA 2K16, rolled into his office on Sunday morning. He noticed his version of the game had finished building and was like, "oh snap, guess that means I didn't break anything major by adding these new animations. Time to tweet!" (Okay, I don't actually know if he said any of this but go with me here.)

But okay, on a slightly more serious note obviously seeing this little snapshot of the development process is good times. When marketers hype up the fact that a new sports game has "hundreds of new animations!" it sort of gets lost on most of us because we can't really discern what that means and what they really impacted. But when it's specific like this, it at least gives folks something easier to grasp. In other words, it maybe does not sound as "wow-worthy" but it actually means something much more tangible.

So this sounds like good news to us as the post-up game is always in need of love as it's all about moves, double moves and variety overall to keep the cat and mouse game going.

How did you folks feel about the post game anyway in NBA 2K15?

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# 41 LD2k @ 06/10/15 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RusDids29


	Could not agree with you more Dream. U have to practice the moves to pull them off. The hook shot is easily contested when u shoot it posting someone straight up. U have to do a setup move before you pull it off. Like a shoulder to the chest or the should fake then do the hook immediately after to have the post player disengaged. The post play is legit this year and is only going to get better.

I agree wholeheartedly. Really shows up in head-2-head/Team Up games too.

For those asking about strips/defense, I have spoken with the defense team regarding big man strips. Happens too frequently imo, and that's a convo we've been having for a while now as well. The post-game should be very rewarding for those that master it - and I know the gameplay team will continue to improve upon that.

# 42 2_headedmonster @ 06/10/15 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LD2k


	I agree wholeheartedly. Really shows up in head-2-head/Team Up games too. For those asking about strips/defense, I have spoken with the defense team regarding big man strips. Happens too frequently imo, and that's a convo we've been having for a while now as well. The post-game should be very rewarding for those that master it - and I know the gameplay team will continue to improve upon that.

I think what needs to be addressed is people who are not good post players still being effective. The "Post control" rating should govern footwork and the vulnerability of the ball. Players who are poor in that department should have a 50% chance at traveling, dribbling off their foot or losing the ball when attempting advanced moves.

just look at the terrible footwork blake exhibits;i want that kind of replication in 2k.

# 43 JTheClip @ 06/10/15 04:37 PM

Blake's post up game is extremely ugly but its also extremely effective as well. Would you choose a jumpshot that looks nice but goes in at a 40% clip or an ugly jumpshot that goes in 55% of the time?

# 44 2_headedmonster @ 06/10/15 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JTheClip


	Blake's post up game is extremely ugly but its also extremely effective as well. Would you choose a jumpshot that looks nice but goes in at a 40% clip or an ugly jumpshot that goes in 55% of the time?

no need to swoop in and save Blake. I specifically mentioned his footwork.

# 45 J_Posse @ 06/10/15 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by adamspag


	this is good news, big men needed some love. Hopefully we can dunk from the post.

Yes, I want to do/see a drop-step into a dunk ala Shaq, DeMarcus Cousins and Dwight Howard. Or even a called charge on the drop step.

I'd also like to see a nice post up up-and-under move or Boris Diaw's "cream shake" maneuver. They also need to add a shimmy shot that leads to a smooth hook shot animation and not just a fadeaway shot. We could use a plethora of new moves and animations in the low post, maybe even bunched into package to represent different styles of low post scorers.

Last but not least, a lot of the fadeaway animations need to be re-done because they've slowly gotten worse over time.

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# 46 Goffs @ 06/10/15 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by J_Posse


	Yes, I want do/see a drop-step into a dunk ala Shaq, DeMarcus Cousins and Dwight Howard. Or even a called charge on the drop step.

Shaq deserves his own post up game animations/dunks...

# 47 J_Posse @ 06/10/15 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Goffs


	What about post defense? Defense needs a LOT of love to... Anyway...I'm hoping 2k has power backdowns like Shaq used to do.

Yes, give guys like Taj Gibson (he is superior offensively) and Tiago Splitter a purpose. Currently, quality low post defending big men are useless cause they have no counters or their defensive impact is nerfed.

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# 48 2_headedmonster @ 06/10/15 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Goffs


	Shaq deserves his own post up game animations/dunks...

man oh man. If i could dominate with Shaq like that, i would have a blast. Dont think i could do anything like that since 2k13. And even that fell very short.

# 49 FaM0us Skins @ 06/10/15 08:58 PM

I hate how a shooting foul is called most of the time on defense in the post.

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# 50 Double_Dribble Rea @ 06/11/15 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Goffs


	Shaq deserves his own post up game animations/dunks...

I love number 7 the up and under into a dunk he does on luc longley which is impossible to do on 2k15. Number 5 was sexy as well back down into a turn around dunk on Yao, get chills when the commentator yells out "O'Neill strong!" . Like someone else said would love to be able to dominate the post physically like this, would have so much fun.

# 51 stillfeelme @ 06/11/15 11:48 AM

That Shaq aggressive backdown then step through and dunk is something you can't perform in 2K. I just want signature post game with appropriate defensive counters and probably some fatigue effect so that moves can't be cheesed. What I am saying is don't just add animations that can't be stopped.

Shaq's aggressive backdown with the force he used has not been seen again in the NBA because there hasn't been a player that big and that strong since he retired. I think a lot of them would be offensive fouls in today's NBA. The game is just called very different from the 90's and early 2000's

I also want to add that please pay attention to the success rate of the post.

Al Jefferson has the best post game by far in the NBA but he only shoots 47% on post ups

Cousins who can be dominant at times and has some moves only shoots 43% on post ups not really efficient overall.

Dwight Howard has a basic post game shoots 43.5%

http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/pos...ason&sort=Poss

So all I am saying is I want signature post shots that reflect close to real life success %'s. Looking at youtube videos shows highlights and shows what go to moves they have in their arsenal so that you can make or select signature shots.

NBA.com has a new feature where you can view all shots by say shots taken in the paint for the whole season. You can get there by sorting a player stats by Misc

Al Jefferson:

He needs those signature one hand pump fakes and flip shots. He is the only one that uses it like that.

http://on.nba.com/1e5CixT

Dwight Howard:

http://on.nba.com/1e5Ed5D

Cousins:

http://on.nba.com/1e5EIN0

# 52 GravesFan9 @ 06/11/15 12:02 PM

How about Timmy? Most of his common post moves are absent from the game. You can perform some facsimile of some of them, but that's not enough. The game should have the moves of one of the GOAT big men to ever play the sport.

# 53 stillfeelme @ 06/11/15 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GravesFan9


	How about Timmy? Most of his common post moves are absent from the game. You can perform some facsimile of some of them, but that's not enough. The game should have the moves of one of the GOAT big men to ever play the sport.

They should treat post shots the same way they treat shooting jumpers to a degree. There are 100's of jumpers captured but the post shots are few. It is not like they need that many more shots.

Dwight:

Face up, shoulder shake to running hook either hand, sig drop step

M. Gasol

Sweeping running hooks missing and probably a sig post fade.

Zbo

Really needs sig post hooks that have him barely getting off the ground with a high release. It is go to move in the post. He needs a sig face up jab step it is how he gets his jumper off

Al Jefferson:

One hand ball fakes from face up very signature. He has a ball fake where he lifts one leg up to get someone to jump. Sig push shots high release, and jump hooks. He uses the push one hand release alot in the post. It like a combo hook combo push shot, combo floater. It should be his default hook shot. Now he has to drop step and all that.

At most we are talking about 40 guys needs some sig attention at least current players

# 54 RusDids29 @ 06/11/15 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LD2k


	I agree wholeheartedly. Really shows up in head-2-head/Team Up games too. For those asking about strips/defense, I have spoken with the defense team regarding big man strips. Happens too frequently imo, and that's a convo we've been having for a while now as well. The post-game should be very rewarding for those that master it - and I know the gameplay team will continue to improve upon that.

I made this video for this thread http://xboxclips.com/RusDids29/15501...f-c73d31ac6297

# 55 JTheClip @ 06/11/15 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 2_headedmonster


	no need to swoop in and save Blake. I specifically mentioned his footwork.

Well based on your post, you want players with poor footwork to have a higher chance to lose the ball or travel. And I just pointed out a player with ugly footwork( Blake griffin) who necessarily shouldnt have a low post control based on his footwork and how it looks. He was just the example you gave and the easiest to describe

# 56 stillfeelme @ 06/11/15 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JTheClip


	Well based on your post, you want players with poor footwork to have a higher chance to lose the ball or travel. And I just pointed out a player with ugly footwork( Blake griffin) who necessarily shouldnt have a low post control based on his footwork and how it looks. He was just the example you gave and the easiest to describe

What they should do is use the available tools to decide how turnovers happen. If a guy doesn't usually travel well that should not be a reason.

http://on.nba.com/1xsz6U0 Griffin video T.O.'s
http://on.nba.com/1I7u3bO Griffin movement chart of every T.O.

Again NBA.com is very sick with the updates they have made. You can watch every T.O. or maybe just the SportsVu ones a person makes by just going to traditional stats. Sick either way.

Just a little more infomation Griffin only turns the ball over 9% of the time on post ups.
Cousins it is like 15.4% of his post ups he turns the ball over and 17% for Dwight.

So one way the post game gets balanced is by T.O's, bad passes, offensive fouls stripped, blocked, dribbling out of bounds

# 57 Jrocc23 @ 06/11/15 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by thedream2k16


	I can only imagine the joy of dominating in the post and dunking on my opponent without steal spamming interrupting the flow

Would change the game. But I just hope 2K doesn't overdo it like they seem to do sometimes. I should still be able to steal the ball from if the big is putting the ball on the ground while other players are around the ball. Don't make it damn near impossible.

# 58 ironjumpman_23 @ 06/13/15 12:11 AM

This will be perfect using Hakeem Olajuwan if the Rockets are still in.

# 59 midwestking100 @ 06/13/15 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ironjumpman_23


	This will be perfect using Hakeem Olajuwan if the Rockets are still in.

This, I do want to see the dream shake in current gen though.

# 60 GatorSnake04 @ 06/14/15 06:28 PM

I would love to see the big get a variety of short celebrations for blocked shots/knock down defenders, just something fast, flexin, chest pound, shaking finger in the face of the player you just owned ect.. I know that in the parks/courts/arenas around the world, a blocked shot will not happen without being celebrated lol.

I would also like it if the animation that causes the basketball to float up in the air like a balloon with a hole in it when rebounded would be corrected. Its rare to happen but suuuuuucks when it does, i jump and grab the ball but then it floats up... might be some kind of a pop up animation? it looks pretty bad tho.

It's just a thought!

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