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NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsumer)

03:58 PM - September 13, 2014 by tsbmolina

During an interview with Senior Producer Rob Jones, Outconsumer shows some NBA 2K15 gameplay footage of the Oklahoma City Thunder and Cleveland Cavaliers.

The gameplay starts at roughly the 5 minute mark. Most of the video itself is in Spanish, but during the interview Rob is speaking in English.

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# 61 Boilerbuzz @ 09/15/14 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Taer


	While some passes are rockets, some are floaters when the situation calls for rockets and visa-versa. Better ai situational awareness for passing would address a major need and so far, I am undecided if I see improvement in an area that needed work for years.

The only floaters I see are close quarter and if those are too fast, the catcher doesn't have time to play a catch animation.

# 62 blues rocker @ 09/15/14 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BluFu


	to combat that, they should increase the passing accuracy and speed of passes globally.

nah - increasing speed or accuracy won't solve the problem i pointed out. i'm with Boilerbuzz on this one.

the solution (in my opinion) is to just have "true ball collision" on passes - that would ensure that bad passes are punished with deflections and turnovers. my philosophy about this game is (and has always been) that every aspect of the game should revolve around rewarding good decisions and punishing bad decisions...as of now, allowing the ball to be passed THROUGH defenders goes against that - that is the ultimate example of NOT punishing a bad decision.

if a defender is in the passing lane, and you make a pass, you've made a bad decision...you've failed to recognize that the passing angle was not there...so you should be punished by having the ball bounce off the defender and get stolen. by allowing the ball to go through the defender, the game is REWARDING a bad decision...and if you are the defensive team in that case, then you've been cheated - your defender was in place, but the game rewarded your opponent and allowed his bad pass to get through. how does that make you feel as a defender that you got cheated by bad physics? in this case the game is rewarding the wrong player - it's doing the complete opposite of what it should be doing.

lack of ball collision physics on passes bails out the user on bad decisions - it does not hold the user accountable...again it all comes back to the basic philosophy that the game should function to punish bad decisions and reward good ones...but the game cannot function toward that goal if true ball collision is not present on passes.

most of my problems with the game stem from the game not completely functioning to support this philosophy (i'm not saying it's on purpose from the game designer's standpoint, but I would like the game to function more to support that philosophy if at all possible). for example, another one of my problems with the game is that too many contested shots, contact shots, and difficult shots go in. taking these types of shots is not a "good decision," so relying on mostly these type of shots without passing and working for open shots should result in complete failure...but the game often allows people to hang around in the game by relying on these shot types. someone who passes a lot and gets open shots should be MUCH more successful than someone who relies on one-on-one contested shots or contact layups....but as of now, the gap between these two strategies in shot success is not large enough. yes, usually the person who gets open shots will do better, but not by a large enough margin. you can pass the ball around and get a good shot on almost every play, and your opponent can just force up one-on-one contested jumpers and contact layups...BUT you still might only win by 9-10 points...when in my opinion you should blow the other guy out by 20-25 points...the degree of success should correspond directly to the amount of good or bad decisions that are made

# 63 Taer @ 09/15/14 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz


	The only floaters I see are close quarter and if those are too fast, the catcher doesn't have time to play a catch animation.

I was basing my observation on all the vids I've seen so far - so it is more of an overall assessment of my gut so far.

# 64 The 24th Letter @ 09/15/14 11:41 AM

Are guys really seeing balls go through defenders THAT much?

I honestly can't remember the last time i've seen it happen..

I remember this being a big issue a few years ago, but i'm surprised it still seems to be happening so often for guy's

# 65 El_Poopador @ 09/15/14 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by blues rocker


	nah - increasing speed or accuracy won't solve the problem i pointed out. i'm with Boilerbuzz on this one. the solution (in my opinion) is to just have "true ball collision" on passes - that would ensure that bad passes are punished with deflections and turnovers. my philosophy about this game is (and has always been) that every aspect of the game should revolve around rewarding good decisions and punishing bad decisions...as of now, allowing the ball to be passed THROUGH defenders goes against that - that is the ultimate example of NOT punishing a bad decision. if a defender is in the passing lane, and you make a pass, you've made a bad decision...you've failed to recognize that the passing angle was not there...so you should be punished by having the ball bounce off the defender and get stolen. by allowing the ball to go through the defender, the game is REWARDING a bad decision...and if you are the defensive team in that case, then you've been cheated - your defender was in place, but the game rewarded your opponent and allowed his bad pass to get through. how does that make you feel as a defender that you got cheated by bad physics? THE GAME IS REWARDING THE WRONG PLAYER. lack of ball collision physics on passes bails out the user on bad decisions - it does not hold the user accountable...again it all comes back to the basic philosophy that the game should function to punish bad decisions and reward good ones...but the game cannot function toward that goal if true ball collision is not present on passes.

I half-agree on this. As great as it would be to have punishment for bad decisions, we will never have the depth of control to choose exactly how we want to pass the ball. So I can see an opening that would be perfect if I throw an overhead pass, but the animation that plays out may end up being a chest pass, which ends up being a turnover because it's not the type of pass I was expecting to make.

Even with the ball not being 100% tangible this year, I find that what I described above happens to me a lot. I'll want to wrap a pass around my defender or throw a one-handed pass around a help defender to the open man, but end up throwing a chest pass right into them instead.

# 66 Taer @ 09/15/14 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The 24th Letter


	Are guys really seeing balls go through defenders THAT much? I honestly can't remember the last time i've seen it happen.. I remember this being a big issue a few years ago, but i'm surprised it still seems to be happening so often for guy's

It only seems prevalent with certain guys in 2k14 for me. As an example, playing against Rondo and the Celtics, I found it happened 3-4 times a quarter with me guarding him.

Just the prior game before, when I was playing against Jrue Holliday and the Pelicans, I did not see it happen the entire game with me guarding Jrue.

# 67 El_Poopador @ 09/15/14 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The 24th Letter


	Are guys really seeing balls go through defenders THAT much? I honestly can't remember the last time i've seen it happen.. I remember this being a big issue a few years ago, but i'm surprised it still seems to be happening so often for guy's

There was a clip in the trailer for 2k15 that had two arms going through each other that should have resulted in a foul instead. I realize that's not a ball going through the defender, but just saying it's definitely an issue.

# 68 The 24th Letter @ 09/15/14 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by El_Poopador


	There was a clip in the trailer for 2k15 that had two arms going through each other that should have resulted in a foul instead. I realize that's not a ball going through the defender, but just saying it's definitely an issue.

The Kawhi clip...yeah...those are going to happen...not really a big concern of mine...

I was speaking specifically about the call.

# 69 turty11 @ 09/15/14 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The 24th Letter


	Are guys really seeing balls go through defenders THAT much? I honestly can't remember the last time i've seen it happen.. I remember this being a big issue a few years ago, but i'm surprised it still seems to be happening so often for guy's

between the ball and body parts going through each other, and the "air bubble" around playet bodys that deflects the ball without it being touched (i have pics of this if you dont get what i am saying)

IT HAPPENS ALL THE DAM TIME.

its just usually not at an angle/point where you will really notice it unless you go through and watch a replay of everything

# 70 Rockie_Fresh88 @ 09/15/14 01:40 PM

That's another reason why I asked what modes you guys play.

I play 90% of the time in teamup with 9 other users. So when you're player locked you notice every instance of ball warping , sliding , losing control, and animations that could use more physics and counter measures. So when guys get player locked on Rondo or Cp3 they paint pass all game , bigs end up with 20 a piece, and rarely get penalized for it ... And it's deflating for my guys who like playing and defending big man.

# 71 Boilerbuzz @ 09/16/14 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by blues rocker


	nah - increasing speed or accuracy won't solve the problem i pointed out. i'm with Boilerbuzz on this one. the solution (in my opinion) is to just have "true ball collision" on passes - that would ensure that bad passes are punished with deflections and turnovers. my philosophy about this game is (and has always been) that every aspect of the game should revolve around rewarding good decisions and punishing bad decisions...as of now, allowing the ball to be passed THROUGH defenders goes against that - that is the ultimate example of NOT punishing a bad decision. if a defender is in the passing lane, and you make a pass, you've made a bad decision...you've failed to recognize that the passing angle was not there...so you should be punished by having the ball bounce off the defender and get stolen. by allowing the ball to go through the defender, the game is REWARDING a bad decision...and if you are the defensive team in that case, then you've been cheated - your defender was in place, but the game rewarded your opponent and allowed his bad pass to get through. how does that make you feel as a defender that you got cheated by bad physics? in this case the game is rewarding the wrong player - it's doing the complete opposite of what it should be doing. lack of ball collision physics on passes bails out the user on bad decisions - it does not hold the user accountable...again it all comes back to the basic philosophy that the game should function to punish bad decisions and reward good ones...but the game cannot function toward that goal if true ball collision is not present on passes. most of my problems with the game stem from the game not completely functioning to support this philosophy (i'm not saying it's on purpose from the game designer's standpoint, but I would like the game to function more to support that philosophy if at all possible). for example, another one of my problems with the game is that too many contested shots, contact shots, and difficult shots go in. taking these types of shots is not a "good decision," so relying on mostly these type of shots without passing and working for open shots should result in complete failure...but the game often allows people to hang around in the game by relying on these shot types. someone who passes a lot and gets open shots should be MUCH more successful than someone who relies on one-on-one contested shots or contact layups....but as of now, the gap between these two strategies in shot success is not large enough. yes, usually the person who gets open shots will do better, but not by a large enough margin. you can pass the ball around and get a good shot on almost every play, and your opponent can just force up one-on-one contested jumpers and contact layups...BUT you still might only win by 9-10 points...when in my opinion you should blow the other guy out by 20-25 points...the degree of success should correspond directly to the amount of good or bad decisions that are made

I agree with blues in principle. In practice however, a frustrated user will transfer the blame to the game. "Why did it pick that pass!? I would have done this pass to get it around the defender!" O

# 72 Boilerbuzz @ 09/16/14 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by WTF


	I've made around 10 posts or so related to 2k this year, kept most of my thoughts via PM with some guys I know and respect from way back. Czar knows my thoughts and where I feel the game needs to be, and more importantly, needs to go away from. Hopefully the game starts to go that way.

You sure you should be helping the enemy, dude? EA may not like that.

# 73 jadert @ 09/16/14 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockie_Fresh88


	That's another reason why I asked what modes you guys play. I play 90% of the time in teamup with 9 other users. So when you're player locked you notice every instance of ball warping , sliding , losing control, and animations that could use more physics and counter measures. So when guys get player locked on Rondo or Cp3 they paint pass all game , bigs end up with 20 a piece, and rarely get penalized for it ... And it's deflating for my guys who like playing and defending big man.

I didn't look at it that way. Great point.

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Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz


	You sure you should be helping the enemy, dude? EA may not like that.

Or he may be a spy lol. He generally cosigns every negative comment made about 2K in every thread.

# 74 WTF @ 09/16/14 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jadert


	I didn't look at it that way. Great point. Or he may be a spy lol. He generally cosigns every negative comment made about 2K in every thread.

Or perhaps the negative posts that I "like" are the same issues that I have with the game. ..

Boiler, I'm about making basketball games as a whole better, regardless of the name on the front. Basketball titles are generally the only games I buy each year, so if one of them has issues that effect my enjoyment then yep, I'm going to be critical. Much like yourself.

# 75 blues rocker @ 09/16/14 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz


	I agree with blues in principle. In practice however, a frustrated user will transfer the blame to the game. "Why did it pick that pass!? I would have done this pass to get it around the defender!" O

haha...yeah, but at a certain point the user has to be accountable. some people will always blame the game for their failures...but as a game maker, you can't cater to those people...otherwise the outcome will not be determined by skill and decision making and you'll end up with the game forcing certain things in order to "help" the user and cover up for their bad decisions (like allowing the ball to pass through players, and allowing bad/contested shots to go in at a high rate).

in regards to the wrong pass type being used...one thing I liked about the passing in 2k11 was that you could be very selective about which hand you passed with...whatever hand you were dribbling with, that was the hand the player passed with...this allowed you to switch the ball to the other hand to create a better passing angle. this is partly why i loved the passing in 2k11. since 2k11, they have moved away from that somewhat (maybe they wanted to make it more realistic, since some players can't pass as effectively with their "off hand"), but the level of control it gave with passing felt amazing. also, in 2k11 you could direct the angle of your receivers more with icon lead passing...with these 2 factors, in 2k11 I really felt like I could pick my passes and create my passing angles. i have never quite felt that level of control with the passing since 2k11....it might not have been as realistic, but for somebody who loves to pass, it was a blast because you didn't have the game picking a pass you didn't want...and you could direct your receiver better with icon lead passing, so you didn't have to worry about your receiver cutting at the wrong angle and running behind a defender or suddenly stopping when you wanted him to keep moving.

# 76 Boilerbuzz @ 09/16/14 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by WTF


	Or perhaps the negative posts that I "like" are the same issues that I have with the game. .. Boiler, I'm about making basketball games as a whole better, regardless of the name on the front. Basketball titles are generally the only games I buy each year, so if one of them has issues that effect my enjoyment then yep, I'm going to be critical. Much like yourself.

You say that, but I never see you hammer on the more inferior product as much as you do here. And, really, I understand it. This game is held to a MUCH higher standard. And deservedly so. So, I don't have an issue with it.

# 77 Boilerbuzz @ 09/16/14 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by blues rocker


	haha...yeah, but at a certain point the user has to be accountable. some people will always blame the game for their failures...but as a game maker, you can't cater to those people...otherwise the outcome will not be determined by skill and decision making and you'll end up with the game forcing certain things in order to "help" the user and cover up for their bad decisions (like allowing the ball to pass through players, and allowing bad/contested shots to go in at a high rate).

I'm willing to bet that the VAST majority of users easily transfer the blame of bad things to the game. Boy, do I agree with you about user accountability. But, we have to be realistic. It's really video game politics. Yet another balancing act. Gamers today are getting more and more savvy and are accepting responsibility of their own bad decisions. But still, not enough of those players. I've I were to guess, I'd say pretty much every player under the age of 16 won't do this. Everything bad happening to them is the game's fault or it's cheating. I mean THIS is the basis of all of the "predetermined outcome"/"comeback AI" cry threads.

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	in regards to the wrong pass type being used...one thing I liked about the passing in 2k11 was that you could be very selective about which hand you passed with...whatever hand you were dribbling with, that was the hand the player passed with...this allowed you to switch the ball to the other hand to create a better passing angle. this is partly why i loved the passing in 2k11.

Hmm... Interesting. I never saw the 2K11 passing like that. I need to go back and try that out.

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	since 2k11, they have moved away from that somewhat (maybe they wanted to make it more realistic, since some players can't pass as effectively with their "off hand"), but the level of control it gave with passing felt amazing. also, in 2k11 you could direct the angle of your receivers more with icon lead passing...with these 2 factors, in 2k11 I really felt like I could pick my passes and create my passing angles. i have never quite felt that level of control with the passing since 2k11....it might not have been as realistic, but for somebody who loves to pass, it was a blast because you didn't have the game picking a pass you didn't want...and you could direct your receiver better with icon lead passing, so you didn't have to worry about your receiver cutting at the wrong angle and running behind a defender or suddenly stopping when you wanted him to keep moving.

I'm sure this got reeled in because of the "lead pass cheese" that ran rampant in the game. No?

# 78 blues rocker @ 09/16/14 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz


	I'm sure this got reeled in because of the "lead pass cheese" that ran rampant in the game. No?

yeah, i'm sure. the problem with icon lead pass back then was that it often caused the receiver to speed up and do an unrealistic speed burst. this was allowing people to direct receivers and make them burst forward out of nowhere...since then 2k has reduced what you can do with icon lead passing...in my opinion they could've kept most of that icon lead pass control, but just gotten rid of the crazy speed burst.

In 2k11 icon lead passing really allowed you to really determine the angle of your passes. i remember you could even use icon lead pass to chose which side of the receiver you wanted to place the pass. it felt so amazing to have that much control over your passing. now you're more at the mercy of the passer and your AI teammates...sometimes your player does the wrong pass, sometimes your teammates don't cut where you want, or they'll inexplicably stop or cut when they shouldn't...back in the day, the icon lead passing control allowed you to somewhat get around this by being able to direct your receivers more and put he ball right where you wanted.

# 79 WTF @ 09/16/14 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz


	You say that, but I never see you hammer on the more inferior product as much as you do here. And, really, I understand it. This game is held to a MUCH higher standard. And deservedly so. So, I don't have an issue with it.

Or maybe the things that bother you about the "inferior product" don't bother me. Perhaps with 2k, you can look past things that drive me insane. I don't hold either game in a different light. The things that I express dissatisfaction in shouldn't bother you one bit. Thankfully, you aren't in my skull knowing exactly how I feel about a video game.

If 2k comes out this year and addresses the issues that I have individually, I'll be the first to admit it. Unfortunately based on the info that I've gathered, much of it will be tweaked but not remedied. How much of a change will it he? I don't know, but I will try it out for myself.

Again, thoughts, impressions and criticisms are all subjective. I play games to have fun, after working a demanding job, 2 kids, wife and taking care of the home, I certainly don't need anyone to tell me how I feel about a videogame. It's not a hard idea to "understand ".

# 80 SageInfinite @ 09/16/14 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WTF


	I don't hold either game in a different light.

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