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A Few More Short NBA 2K15 Video Clips - Knicks vs. Cavs & Lakers/Warriors Ratings

10:47 AM - September 12, 2014 by Steve_OS

Twitter user @javibbns sent me these videos he captured from the NBA House in Madrid.

Confirmed player ratings:

Lakers

J. Lin - 77
K. Bryant - 89
W. Johnson - 73
C. Boozer - 78
J. Hill - 76
N. Young - 78
E. Davis - 73
J. Randle - 76
S. Nash - 76
R. Kelly 71
R. Sacre - 67
J. Clarkson - 70
X. Henry - 73

Warriors

S. Curry - 89
K. Thompson - 82
A. Iguodala - 82
D. Lee - 82
A. Bogut - 80
H. Barnes - 76
D. Green - 77
S. Livingston - 74
M. Speights - 72
B. Rush - 69
D. Kuzmic - 67
N. Nedovic - 67
F. Ezeli - 67

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# 61 PhiPsi1 @ 09/12/14 05:20 PM

Biggest Negative that I see with these videos - - > The HUM that is playing!

Would it be too hard for the 2K Team to let our OS brethren like Bedwardsroy or DaCzar play the CPU for even 1 quarter so that we can atleast get a sense of what changes were made to give an even greater NBA sim experience?

The one thing I noticed in the gameplay with Irving driving to the basket is that once Calderon got beat off the dribble, Dalembert didn't sprint to pick up Irving (like we came to expect in 2K14)...Dalembert still stayed on his man and used his length to keep Irving out of the paint. Defensive rotation looks improved in that clip.

BUT then in the clip with Lebron, after Shumpert (HUM-controlled) reaches and gets beat off the dribble...BOTH Bargnani and Melo challenge Lebron's shot and leaves both Cav's post players open for the easy offensive rebound. So in this clip, the Def rotation still needs work.

Of course, not sure what level this is on and hoping that sliders can help out....

2K Team, if your listening, please give us gameplay from Bedwardsroy and/or DaCzar so we can see true sim play!

# 62 PhiPsi1 @ 09/12/14 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by @marcusjiles


	Little shocked they didnt change that court size. That's a huge problem. Players are too big AND the court is too small. It's hard to post up and move, it's also hard to get any space.

I'm in total agreement with you here @marcusjiles ! This is one aspect that I think that NBA Live team got right ... I remember in the previous gameplay video posted that there was so much bumping, especially in the perimeter. Varejao simply would not move and get in the way, when you would think as a post player, he would want to go down low...Hoping that the 2K Dev Team can address spacing this year!

# 63 Sundown @ 09/12/14 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by thedream2k13


	You don't know individual ratings calm down

There's no set of individual ratings that can justify Green at only 1 point higher than Barnes-- Green does practically everything better than jumping straight up. And the new system is supposed to account for that.

Basically 3 of 5 of the top starting 5 in the league last season got dinged-- a few in a major way (Iggy and Lee, though Lee's is fair)-- while Barnes got the same stats after a much, much worse season in a system that's supposed to weigh roles better.

I mean a player that turned an average defense into a top-3 on a strained hammy gets knocked 5 points, while a player suffering a major injury misses a whole season and still ends up ahead of him by 7 points. Whether individual ratings or the overall system, something is amiss. I'm just a bit dissapointed that these ratings are more reminscent of past 2K rosters than what I had imagined they might be given the new changes.

# 64 Rondee @ 09/12/14 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundown


	Barnes got a ton of minutes. He's just actually very limited and was also used ineffectively (but there aren't that many ways to use Barnes). Green is much better than Barnes in nearly everything but 3 point shooting-- and he's getting there. And I agree that Kobe at 89 is ridiculous. You're really telling me he's going to step on the court day one and be as effective as Kevin Love, Tim Duncan, and Steph Curry? :P I was really hoping with the new hires that rosters would be great out of the box. Looks like we're not quite there yet, and there's still a few misses with ratings based on hype or lack of it rather than what would be a more sober analysis.

We'll agree to disagree on Barnes. He was good his rookie year then lost minutes to Iggy. So it's factually not true he got a ton of minutes last year. You can check this yourself.

He is long and can defend and can score, just not getting opportunities. They should trade him, he will develop elsewhere. Draymond is great, but that's about as good as he will get. That's why he is only slightly higher than Barnes, despite not playing as much as Green.

# 65 Sundown @ 09/12/14 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rondee


	We'll agree to disagree on Barnes. He was good his rookie year then lost minutes to Iggy. He is long and can defend and can score, just not getting opportunities. They should trade him, he will develop elsewhere. Draymond is great, but that's about as good as he will get. That's why he is only slightly higher than Barnes, despite not playing as much as Green.

I spent a season watching Barnes be terrible regardless of his minutes.

Barnes was not "good" his rookie year. He was just somewhat competent for a rookie, with a decent run in playoffs because every coach literally gameplanned to allow Barnes to post up on PGs rather than let Curry shoot the ball. Somehow he regressed, and I will say much of it was due to him being run in Mark Jackson's benchmobs. However, if he was a star, he would manage to distinguish himself, especially playing against other benches.

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	So it's factually not true he got a ton of minutes last year. You can check this yourself.

So I did:

Draymond Green had 21.9 minutes per game.

Barnes had 28.3 minutes per game.

That is MORE than he had in 2012-13 (25.4 per game). That is more than Andre Bogut. And that is just 4 less than Iguodala, against weaker competition.

Barnes shot .399% FG. That is abysmal with plenty of court time, much of it undeserved.

Barnes got his minutes. He just wasn't very good. Poor basketball IQ, poor creator, poor motor, poor lateral speed (his footwork on the perimeter is terrible-- he starts out spread legged and gets no displacement on his first step), poor ball handler, inefficient midrange shooter, poor rebounder for his size. He's an average defender and not a very good scorer who's especially terrible in isolation. I think he could pick up his shooting since he has good form, but in no world is Barnes even remotely comparable to Green. Physicals are often overrated as "ceiling", but the mental aspect is just as important and sometimes more elusive.

Now I'm still rooting for him, and I think his lack of role definition contributed much to his regression, as well as a possible foot injury and lost confidence-- but no sober basketball analysis can say that Barnes wasn't good only because he wasn't getting minutes, or that he's as valuable player as Green.

# 66 ojandpizza @ 09/12/14 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundown


	There's no set of individual ratings that can justify Green at only 1 point higher than Barnes-- Green does practically everything better than jumping straight up. And the new system is supposed to account for that. Basically 3 of 5 of the top starting 5 in the league last season got dinged-- a few in a major way (Iggy and Lee, though Lee's is fair)-- while Barnes got the same stats after a much, much worse season in a system that's supposed to weigh roles better. I mean a player that turned an average defense into a top-3 on a strained hammy gets knocked 5 points, while a player suffering a major injury misses a whole season and still ends up ahead of him by 7 points. Whether individual ratings or the overall system, something is amiss. I'm just a bit dissapointed that these ratings are more reminscent of past 2K rosters than what I had imagined they might be given the new changes.

It's already basically been established that athleticism, see LaVine and Drummond, plays a HUGE role in overalls.. That justifies Barnes being so high, with his potential also included.

That being said it's laughable Drummond is rated higher than Iggy lol.

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# 67 Sundown @ 09/12/14 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ojandpizza


	It's already basically been established that athleticism, see LaVine and Drummond, plays a HUGE role in overalls.. That justifies Barnes being so high, with his potential also included. That being said it's laughable Drummond is rated higher than Iggy lol. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah, overrating athleticism has been an age-old problem.

Thing is, Barnes' athleticism itself is a bit overrated (great hops-- underwhelming lateral quickness and footwork). Little actual impact on the court outside of 3-4 highlight dunks a season.

Sigh for Iggy. He was rated pretty well last year (probably too well offensively-- his 3's were cheese and so were his post drives), but the season he finally gets his All-Defensive first team while juicing the Warriors' offense with offensive awareness beyond taking shots (he LOVES to pass), he gets dinged big. Then gets dunked on by Durant in the 2K trailer.

# 68 King_B_Mack @ 09/12/14 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The 24th Letter


	I'm not saying you have an allegiance to any game,..but I don't know of you can label anyone brain dead if you can't remember you posted in a forum yesterday.

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Originally Posted by Goffs


	HEY HOMIE!

Priceless.

And can someone explain to me why so many people around here feel the need to bypass the language censor, just to.......wait for it. Put their own lame *** censors to their stuff?

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# 69 Rell7thirty @ 09/12/14 07:21 PM

Loving these gameplay vids. Can't wait to play! I haven't really noticed the player to court ratio some people are mentioning.

Love the fact Curry is rated 89, which is what I predicted with the new rating system. What I don't understand is, how in the world is Kobe Bryant, who missed a huge portion of last season, not to mention his long struggles with durability (ton of ankle sprains where he's missed months, torn wrist ligaments, bum right knee, ruptured achiles, fractured tibia on the other leg).. I'm not saying he hasn't bounced back, but he's 36 with a lot of miles.. A lot of injuries, two which were relatively recent and effects both his legs.. Averaged 13.8 ppg in 30mpg and honestly didn't look like Kobe. Yet, somehow, the guy is rated 89.

I'm sorry, but that page has been turned. Right now, I don't believe he's capable of playing 82 games, 46 minutes per, and dropping close to 30 points per.. Which is what Melo does, and it scares me because I know if Chris Paul is the last addition to the 90s club, Melo will be rated the same as Kobe.

Unless wisdom, and amount of championship rings, and accomplishments are a factor in your overall rating, I just don't see how Kobe Bryant could be rated 89 without proving himself.

Tldr; Kobe Bryant rated 89 is an eyebrow raiser. And wrong. IMO

Edit: not to mention, iguadola should be rated higher. All defensive first team, athletic, sick handles (crossover of the year 2014), one of the best on a fast break, good iq, can jump out of the gym, is pretty clutch when it comes down to it.

# 70 Rondee @ 09/12/14 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundown


	I spent a season watching Barnes be terrible regardless of his minutes. Barnes was not "good" his rookie year. He was just somewhat competent for a rookie, with a decent run in playoffs because every coach literally gameplanned to allow Barnes to post up on PGs rather than let Curry shoot the ball. Somehow he regressed, and I will say much of it was due to him being run in Mark Jackson's benchmobs. However, if he was a star, he would manage to distinguish himself, especially playing against other benches. So I did: Draymond Green had 21.9 minutes per game. Barnes had 28.3 minutes per game. That is MORE than he had in 2012-13 (25.4 per game). That is more than Andre Bogut. And that is just 4 less than Iguodala, against weaker competition. Barnes shot .399% FG. That is abysmal with plenty of court time, much of it undeserved. Barnes got his minutes. He just wasn't very good. Poor basketball IQ, poor creator, poor motor, poor lateral speed (his footwork on the perimeter is terrible-- he starts out spread legged and gets no displacement on his first step), poor ball handler, inefficient midrange shooter, poor rebounder for his size. He's an average defender and not a very good scorer who's especially terrible in isolation. I think he could pick up his shooting since he has good form, but in no world is Barnes even remotely comparable to Green. Physicals are often overrated as "ceiling", but the mental aspect is just as important and sometimes more elusive. Now I'm still rooting for him, and I think his lack of role definition contributed much to his regression, as well as a possible foot injury and lost confidence-- but no sober basketball analysis can say that Barnes wasn't good only because he wasn't getting minutes, or that he's as valuable player as Green.

Okay so he got more minutes, you're right. I should've checked, but it just seemed like he never got quality minutes, they were mostly to relieve Iggy toward the end of quarters. My point is that he hasn't had the chance to develop.

Draymond is definitely the more valuable player by far, i'm not contesting that , but I'm still high on Barnes. He hasn't shown how good he can be. Draymond is good, but he is a role guy and last year is about as good as he'll be.

# 71 ojandpizza @ 09/12/14 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell7thirty


	Loving these gameplay vids. Can't wait to play! I haven't really noticed the player to court ratio some people are mentioning. Love the fact Curry is rated 89, which is what I predicted with the new rating system. What I don't understand is, how in the world is Kobe Bryant, who missed a huge portion of last season, not to mention his long struggles with durability (ton of ankle sprains where he's missed months, torn wrist ligaments, bum right knee, ruptured achiles, fractured tibia on the other leg).. I'm not saying he hasn't bounced back, but he's 36 with a lot of miles.. A lot of injuries, two which were relatively recent and effects both his legs.. Averaged 13.8 ppg in 30mpg and honestly didn't look like Kobe. Yet, somehow, the guy is rated 89. I'm sorry, but that page has been turned. Right now, I don't believe he's capable of playing 82 games, 46 minutes per, and dropping close to 30 points per.. Which is what Melo does, and it scares me because I know if Chris Paul is the last addition to the 90s club, Melo will be rated the same as Kobe. Unless wisdom, and amount of championship rings, and accomplishments are a factor in your overall rating, I just don't see how Kobe Bryant could be rated 89 without proving himself. Tldr; Kobe Bryant rated 89 is an eyebrow raiser. And wrong. IMO

Kobe is rated an 89 because he's Kobe.. Should he be rated as high, or higher, than guys like Melo, Harden, Westbrook, Dwight, Curry, Blake, Aldridge, Paul George, etc.. Definitely not, but 2k would be pissing off a very large fan base by lowering Kobe too much.

If he can somehow regain his form from a couple years ago then he'll deserve the 89, if he's slipped which common sense would say he has, I think it would be fair to see 2k lower him some like they do other players.

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# 72 Rondee @ 09/12/14 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell7thirty


	Loving these gameplay vids. Can't wait to play! I haven't really noticed the player to court ratio some people are mentioning. Love the fact Curry is rated 89, which is what I predicted with the new rating system. What I don't understand is, how in the world is Kobe Bryant, who missed a huge portion of last season, not to mention his long struggles with durability (ton of ankle sprains where he's missed months, torn wrist ligaments, bum right knee, ruptured achiles, fractured tibia on the other leg).. I'm not saying he hasn't bounced back, but he's 36 with a lot of miles.. A lot of injuries, two which were relatively recent and effects both his legs.. Averaged 13.8 ppg in 30mpg and honestly didn't look like Kobe. Yet, somehow, the guy is rated 89. I'm sorry, but that page has been turned. Right now, I don't believe he's capable of playing 82 games, 46 minutes per, and dropping close to 30 points per.. Which is what Melo does, and it scares me because I know if Chris Paul is the last addition to the 90s club, Melo will be rated the same as Kobe. Unless wisdom, and amount of championship rings, and accomplishments are a factor in your overall rating, I just don't see how Kobe Bryant could be rated 89 without proving himself. Tldr; Kobe Bryant rated 89 is an eyebrow raiser. And wrong. IMO Edit: not to mention, iguadola should be rated higher. All defensive first team, athletic, sick handles (crossover of the year 2014), one of the best on a fast break, good iq, can jump out of the gym, is pretty clutch when it comes down to it.

I haven't noticed the court issue either. 2k has always seemed fine with this.

# 73 Blackhail92 @ 09/12/14 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell7thirty


	I'm sorry, but that page has been turned. Right now, I don't believe he's capable of playing 82 games, 46 minutes per, and dropping close to 30 points per.. Which is what Melo does, and it scares me because I know if Chris Paul is the last addition to the 90s club, Melo will be rated the same as Kobe. Unless wisdom, and amount of championship rings, and accomplishments are a factor in your overall rating, I just don't see how Kobe Bryant could be rated 89 without proving himself. Tldr; Kobe Bryant rated 89 is an eyebrow raiser. And wrong. IMO

I have a strange feeling melo will be a 90 or 91, not like anyone else on the Knicks should be good(besides maybe JR and maybe amare) I can't remember he last time melo was under a 90 out of a box 2k roster. Career year in rebounds should help his case but Kobe being an 89 is a stretch. Rose will prob be in the 86-87 range. Interested on what harden, cp3 and Blake will be

# 74 Rondee @ 09/12/14 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ojandpizza


	Kobe is rated an 89 because he's Kobe.. Should he be rated as high, or higher, than guys like Melo, Harden, Westbrook, Dwight, Curry, Blake, Aldridge, Paul George, etc.. Definitely not, but 2k would be pissing off a very large fan base by lowering Kobe too much. If he can somehow regain his form from a couple years ago then he'll deserve the 89, if he's slipped which common sense would say he has, I think it would be fair to see 2k lower him some like they do other players. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Same with his latest contract. Ridiculous money because he is Kobe.

Agree with Iggy needing a higher rating. Klay too, who's way better defensively this summer.

# 75 Rell7thirty @ 09/12/14 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackhail92


	I have a strange feeling melo will be a 90 or 91, not like anyone else on the Knicks should be good(besides maybe JR and maybe amare) I can't remember he last time melo was under a 90 out of a box 2k roster. Career year in rebounds should help his case but Kobe being an 89 is a stretch. Rose will prob be in the 86-87 range. Interested on what harden, cp3 and Blake will be

Exactly. Melo should be 91 with the new rating system. It's kind of insulting if Duncan, no offense-he's a tremendous (unmarketable) player, is rated higher than Melo who is arguably top 3 in the league right now in terms of offensive dominance. Cp3 should be rated overall the same as Curry. Curry is better offensively but Paul is better defensively, and also has an insanely low assist to turnover ratio.

# 76 biatch0 @ 09/12/14 07:45 PM

My takeaway from these videos is that CPU defenders appear to no longer mindlessly collapse onto someone driving into the paint (leaving anyone near the 3 point line wide open). That said, I can't really tell from the videos that rebounding/boxing out has been improved - hopefully no more repeat of me and my 4 CPU team mates that collapsed into the paint get outrebounded 3 times in a row by Patrick Beverly in 2k14.

# 77 Rondee @ 09/12/14 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackhail92


	I have a strange feeling melo will be a 90 or 91, not like anyone else on the Knicks should be good(besides maybe JR and maybe amare) I can't remember he last time melo was under a 90 out of a box 2k roster. Career year in rebounds should help his case but Kobe being an 89 is a stretch. Rose will prob be in the 86-87 range. Interested on what harden, cp3 and Blake will be

Amare... That guy should not be rated higher than a Speights 72.

# 78 Rondee @ 09/12/14 07:59 PM

Other than Melo and JR though, you've got calderon,bargnani, felton, and shumpert who should all rate around where JR should be if not a bit higher

# 79 gremdog8 @ 09/12/14 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackhail92


	I have a strange feeling melo will be a 90 or 91, not like anyone else on the Knicks should be good(besides maybe JR and maybe amare) I can't remember he last time melo was under a 90 out of a box 2k roster. Career year in rebounds should help his case but Kobe being an 89 is a stretch. Rose will prob be in the 86-87 range. Interested on what harden, cp3 and Blake will be

Pretty sure the 4 guys at 90+ are Duncan, Cp3, KD, Lebron. Kobe is my favorite player and I think the 89 rating is way too much, if DWade from what I have seen is a 85 then Kobe should be about that range as well.

# 80 Sports fanantic @ 09/12/14 08:30 PM

I would have thought Iggy would get a higher Rating, considering his strong connection with 2K

I wonder if Barbosa will make the Warriors roster when the game comes out?

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