NCAA Football 14 News Post

EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

03:19 PM - September 27, 2013 by RaychelSnr

The settlement total for EA and the CLC in their part of the college athlete likenesses lawsuits which brought an end to the NCAA Football series is valued at $40 million according to the NY Times.

The settlement affects 125,000 current and former college basketball and football players and ends up averaging just about $320 per player -- which is still too high given the presence of lawyers fees and such which would lower the total payout per player.

The total monetary number is actually quite a bit smaller than you'd expect, and much smaller than if the case had actually gone to trial. From a business standpoint, the $40 million itself was likely not necessarily a reason for axing NCAA Football. What we haven't heard yet are the other terms of the settlement, one of which could very well have been that EA Sports couldn't develop a college football game for x number of years.

We'll keep digging to see what we can find -- most likely additional details of the settlement will continue to leak out in the days and weeks to come.

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# 101 ubernoob @ 09/29/13 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe


	Again look up the definition of exploitation and tell me it doesn't fit. I can't be responsible if you don't know the definition of a word or how said word makes you feel. Coaches cash in, AD's, Dean's, trainers, tutors, tv Networks, commentators, sports writers, ground keepers, and up until recently people who worked for EA making NCAA. What type of person am I exactly? One that speaks out against what I think is wrong even though it doesn't benefit me. I can almost assure you you have no clue what type of person I am if you think I base fairness solely around money.

Exploitation does fit, if you use it in the other sense - "to make use of; to use".

If you're talking about the other way, get outta here with that BS.

Also, it's not hard to find people supporting causes that don't benefit them - doesn't mean they're right. Don't get up on your soapbox and act like you're crusading for justice. Sick and tired of seeing these "woe is me/them" posts about college students.

# 102 bkrich83 @ 09/29/13 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ubernoob


	Exploitation does fit, if you use it in the other sense - "to make use of; to use". If you're talking about the other way, get outta here with that BS. Also, it's not hard to find people supporting causes that don't benefit them - doesn't mean they're right. Don't get up on your soapbox and act like you're crusading for justice. Sick and tired of seeing these "woe is me/them" posts about college students.

It's the culture for a lot of people. It's why they usually end up where they do. It's easy to play the victim, even when there's nothing there.

# 103 ubernoob @ 09/29/13 02:59 AM

I almost missed this in your post, it's not explained and just randomly thrown in there.

How did Sega mess up sports gaming?

# 104 Kaiser Wilhelm @ 09/29/13 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe


	First and foremost did your high school prevent you from making money off of your popularity and/or likeness or prevent you from accepting gifts? My point exactly. I recall a one LeBron James inking a 90million dollar deal with Nike while still in HS. Secondly that's not act like the amount of revenue collected doesn't factor into what is or isn't exploitation.

Actually, yes, the rules of amateur athletics apply to high schools. Upstate New York even has a magazine with the high school athletes, the same way ESPN and SI do with collegiate athletes. They just don't get paid but do give consent simply because most High Schoolers think its freaking awesome to be in a magazine or newspaper.

To the second point of that post, then scale matter? So it isn't the principle alone but only when applied to scale? That weakens the argument in my opinion. It's okay for high schools to use "profitable" programs to support the other programs but not colleges.

Thirdly, you never answered who was being exploited? Is it all student-athletes or is it just the football and men's basketball players?

# 105 da ThRONe @ 09/29/13 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ubernoob


	Exploitation does fit, if you use it in the other sense - "to make use of; to use". If you're talking about the other way, get outta here with that BS. Also, it's not hard to find people supporting causes that don't benefit them - doesn't mean they're right. Don't get up on your soapbox and act like you're crusading for justice. Sick and tired of seeing these "woe is me/them" posts about college students.

It funny you support someone questioning my character simply because you agree with his argument. I didn't say my lack of beneficial gain made me right.

Again exploitation is define as making profit without sharing. "Paying" student athletes in an inflated scholarships, gifts and benefits is the same as executive producers paying the talent in cars, jewelry and condos while pocketing the money, rights, and royalties.

This isn't woe is me? I never said college life is awful so again don't put your misconceptions in my post. It doesn't matter what college life is like. For one group to make billions and for another to be paid in gifts and in "potential" is exploitation. No matter how you want to tap dance around it.

# 106 roadman @ 09/29/13 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	Not sure where you went to HS, but my HS did and still does. http://www.wiaawi.org/Schools/Eligib...ulesForms.aspx Student-athletes are in violation of the members’ amateur status rules if they: 1) ...accept, receive and/or direct to another, reimbursement or award in any form of salary, cash, merchandise of any kind or amount, or share of game or season proceeds for achievement in athletics. A student may not receive such merchandise items as shirts, jackets, sweaters, sweatshirts, jerseys, warm-ups, equipment, balls, duffel bags, backpacks, watches, rings, billfolds, coupons, gift certificates, e.g., regardless of their value. 2) ...sign a contract or agreement for services as a participating athlete. 3) ...receive compensation or benefit, directly or indirectly, for the use of name, picture, and/or personal appearance as an athlete. This includes but is not limited to: receiving free and/or reduced rates on equipment, apparel, camps/clinics/instruction and competitive opportunities that are not identical for all other participants. In addition, student-athletes and parents must pay all costs associated with attending camps and/or clinics. 4) ...are identified as an athlete, provides endorsement as an athlete, or appears as an athlete, in the promotion of a commercial/advertisement and/or profit-making event, item, plan or service. 5) ...play in any contest (school or nonschool) under a name other than his/her own name. Also, do you have a link to all this massive amount of money being made by all these colleges? I'd like to see financial pages of your stated claims or it's all opinion based. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...idies/2142443/ 23 of the 228 athletic departments at the NCAA D1 level generated enough money on their own to cover their expenses in 2012. So, 10% of the NCAA D1 schools generated enough money to cover their own expenses. Please, show me the exploitation! Who is exploiting who with those figures? This reason is based on logic.

And you continue to ignore what I posted? Fact vs your opinion?

Where is your information coming from that AD departments are making billions and exploiting players?

Sorry this fact doesn't fit your opinion.

When did cars, jewelry, and condos become payments? Those are called perks, bonus's, etc... Actors sign contracts with their agents for movies and they can negotiate royalties, perks and bonuses before the movie. Jack Nicholson took a percentage of the royalties for Batman instead of salary. It's called a signed contract. You are really reaching, now.

You've haven't shown us any proof whatsoever regarding AD departments making billions. And I have shown proof that only 10% of the 228 D1 colleges generated enough money to cover their own expenses.

# 107 sportzbro @ 09/29/13 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe


	Again look up the definition of exploitation and tell me it doesn't fit. I can't be responsible if you don't know the definition of a word or how said word makes you feel. Coaches cash in, AD's, Dean's, trainers, tutors, tv Networks, commentators, sports writers, ground keepers, and up until recently people who worked for EA making NCAA. What type of person am I exactly? One that speaks out against what I think is wrong even though it doesn't benefit me. I can almost assure you you have no clue what type of person I am if you think I base fairness solely around money.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe


	It funny you support someone questioning my character simply because you agree with his argument. I didn't say my lack of beneficial gain made me right. Again exploitation is define as making profit without sharing. "Paying" student athletes in an inflated scholarships, gifts and benefits is the same as executive producers paying the talent in cars, jewelry and condos while pocketing the money, rights, and royalties. This isn't woe is me? I never said college life is awful so again don't put your misconceptions in my post. It doesn't matter what college life is like. For one group to make billions and for another to be paid in gifts and in "potential" is exploitation. No matter how you want to tap dance around it.

Dude, you are making a fool of yourself. Just stop.

And really, Ground's Keepers? Trainers? Tutors? - They def shouldn't be cashing in their $35K per year to keep YOUR fields in pristine condition so YOU can play YOUR GAME. The tutors shouldn't be compensated either to keep your stupid *** eligible, and the trainers need not even show up anymore when you can't figure out why your foot hurts.

Maybe the poor souls that have to wash your uniforms and tighten up helmets shouldn't get a dime (many are just interns anyway) because you can do your own laundry. Do you even realize how much time, effort, resources, and bodies already go into your football playing days?

That's not even getting into the administration portion that you mentioned with AD's and marketing departments which go to great lengths in an effort to help put butts in the seats when your team sucks. But it's obvious you don't consider all that because you're busy with your image and complaining about how "exploited" you are.

Amateur athletes are playing for a college which does way more than focus on football/basketball. Athletes are nothing but bodies wearing the name of the school while they get a hell of a lot more perks than the average student. I'll admit that I'm unsure exactly how the sports revenues are precisely distributed (that you feel so entitled to), but it is eventually funneled into new facilities, professor's salaries, campus buildings, the student recreation center, etc. You know - things that make the university run properly, so you actually have somewhere to play?

It's different than the pro's because with the NFL or NBA - there's no ancillary costs that the universities face. No students, teachers, lab equipment, bike paths, rec centers, on & on to take care of and provide for. Just the arena, staff, and players. Once you get to that level, then & only then should you be able to "get yours".

# 108 bkrich83 @ 09/29/13 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BizDevConglomerate


	You can't blame O'bannon, and Keller for EA not making a game. Lol. All they havr to is keep a helmet on the players vs e, use throwing motions from THE NFLPA contract, and use city names instead of licensed names of the schools. You cantbtelk me they won't save money, and make the game more interesting. Add features for the user to change the names or replace the teams. BUT this tells me EA is lazy and can care less about gaming from the shoes of a consumer, but the profits off naive consumers. Exp. Teambuilder, Backbreaker, 2K APF, NES Tecmo Bowl needs to return. Sega messed up sports gaming. I mean when it was electronic arts, they produced good games, but EA got lazy. I wish Backbreakee would return to consoles and change the camera view.

Anyone?

10 char.

# 109 bkrich83 @ 09/29/13 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	And you continue to ignore what I posted? Fact vs your opinion? Where is your information coming from that AD departments are making billions and exploiting players? Sorry this fact doesn't fit your opinion. When did cars, jewelry, and condos become payments? Those are called perks, bonus's, etc... Actors sign contracts with their agents for movies and they can negotiate royalties, perks and bonuses before the movie. Jack Nicholson took a percentage of the royalties for Batman instead of salary. It's called a signed contract. You are really reaching, now. You've haven't shown us any proof whatsoever regarding AD departments making billions. And I have shown proof that only 10% of the 228 D1 colleges generated enough money to cover their own expenses.

I've asked at least 10 times who's raking in all these billions. Answer has been non-existent.

But hey, it's all about them getting theirs. Common sense and logic be damned. Play the victim card whenever possible, and scream injustice, even when you have it better than 99.9% of the same people in your situation. Makes perfect sense. He's just fighting injustice here.

Absurd.

# 110 Swamp Swagger @ 09/30/13 01:42 AM

So canceled series over $300

Well ill be lol

# 111 eyeamg0dly @ 09/30/13 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sportzbro


	Dude, you are making a fool of yourself. Just stop. And really, *Ground's Keepers? Trainers? Tutors?* - They def shouldn't be cashing in their $35K per year to keep YOUR fields in pristine condition so YOU can play YOUR GAME. The tutors shouldn't be compensated either to keep your stupid *** eligible, and the trainers need not even show up anymore when you can't figure out why your foot hurts. Maybe the poor souls that have to wash your uniforms and tighten up helmets shouldn't get a dime (many are just interns anyway) because you can do your own laundry. Do you even realize how much time, effort, resources, and bodies already go into your football playing days? That's not even getting into the administration portion that you mentioned with AD's and marketing departments which go to great lengths in an effort to help put butts in the seats when your team sucks. But it's obvious you don't consider all that because you're busy with your image and complaining about how "exploited" you are. Amateur athletes are playing for a college which does way more than focus on football/basketball. Athletes are nothing but bodies wearing the name of the school while they get a hell of a lot more perks than the average student. I'll admit that I'm unsure exactly how the sports revenues are precisely distributed (that you feel so entitled to), but it is eventually funneled into new facilities, professor's salaries, campus buildings, the student recreation center, etc. You know - things that make the university run properly, so you actually have somewhere to play? It's different than the pro's because with the NFL or NBA - there's no ancillary costs that the universities face. No students, teachers, lab equipment, bike paths, rec centers, on & on to take care of and provide for. Just the arena, staff, and players. Once you get to that level, then & only then should you be able to "get yours".

so someone who can do something that most HS students cannot do, which is earn a full athletic scholarship is not entitled to earn money on their own? does the NCAA take away that ability to students with a full academic scholarship? What the NCAA has done is very borderline unconstitutional, in fact congress is already said after the MLB steriods hearings, they are going to go after the NCAA and their practices.

I am like you and the majority of college students who can't get either full athletic or academic scholarships. We have to work and go to school full time. Last year the ncaa made around 70 million profit after the 800+ million it took in, mostly from tv contracts. 70 mil profit and yet they wont let athletes have jobs, agent, or any way to make money for themselves. some of these guys have families to feed and debt like we do.

I think we have to stop looking at this from the college pov but between the athetes and the ncaa.

# 112 swiftychampleone @ 09/30/13 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BizDevConglomerate


	You can't blame O'bannon, and Keller for EA not making a game. Lol. All they havr to is keep a helmet on the players vs e, use throwing motions from THE NFLPA contract, and use city names instead of licensed names of the schools. You cantbtelk me they won't save money, and make the game more interesting. Add features for the user to change the names or replace the teams. BUT this tells me EA is lazy and can care less about gaming from the shoes of a consumer, but the profits off naive consumers. Exp. Teambuilder, Backbreaker, 2K APF, NES Tecmo Bowl needs to return. Sega messed up sports gaming. I mean when it was electronic arts, they produced good games, but EA got lazy. I wish Backbreakee would return to consoles and change the camera view.

Alright Biz, who's going to buy these :"barebones"/"generic" sports games?

# 113 cgalligan @ 09/30/13 11:49 AM

Nice Job O'Bannon... Instead of looking at is as an "honor" and thinking it was "cool" to be "in" a video game... you selfish bastards made a big deal out of it... all for what??? a few hundred dollars???

Thanks... Thanks allot...

I couldn't agree more with this post -- ""
I'm unsure what you're trying to say? I do love college sports, but being around it & actively involved with it - I'm unsure what's so tough about it... You practice, watch film, lift, each free meals, are worshiped by the fan base, etc. Sure, it's a huge time commitment, but they know what they're signing up for. What else do you want especially when only a handful of universities turn a profit. Stop whining - you benefit the university as much as the name and brand of the university benefits you, the athlete.""

Sure, being an athlete is hard... But to say these guys don't get "paid" for their time is a joke... Do they get "paid" as much as the NCAA or their Universities they play for? Hell no... But, what employee of a company makes anything close to the amount of money the owner of the company makes???

# 114 swiftychampleone @ 09/30/13 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BizDevConglomerate


	I think the same ppl who but these games. It depends on how it's made. For instance Bill Walsh College Football, no real names of schools, in these times if the game had the same number of schools as we see on Saturday, season variable season formats, and gameface or teambuilder with rostershare it will work. The marketing has to educate the consumer on changes, because your everyday consumer won't understand as a hardcore gamer would about rosters, and changing teams. Develop a bball- College & Pro, football college & pro baseball as well, and I believe it will sell. The industry needs to change. And a community group needs to emerge in gaming similar to the Green Bay Packers community ownership. Identify a board of directors to organize the company and structure and direction. But from the community. This is the the only way to ensure gaming that is spot on. How much do you think companies listen to the fans? How much do you think the miss? This is my point. I have this wild belief that gaming needs to go strictly to cloud, and offered as DLC, EVERY 2-3 YRS. this way updates and rosters don't get passed as a drastic change. But also saves money and time. also offer a rent option if your away from your profile or system. There needs to be a huge shift in gaming just like any other sector, and like business, it needs to be a free market. Word up.

This sounds great and all, but realistically there's a small market for guys that would buy these games. The casual gamer is the biggest share of the market. They're the folks that want to see the NCAA, BIG 10 and SEC logos on the field when they play this game. I see your comment on Bill Walsh Football and it worked back in '94. It's just not going to work now. We've evolved from that and had a college game with all of the licensing. Look at the sales for APF 2K8 and Backbreaker. The games were good, but not all good games sell. You and I know this.

Sure, we can mod teams and make 'em similar to the NFL or NCAA. How many folks have time on their hands to do that? Not many. People have schedules these days. People want to simply pick up and play.

# 115 da ThRONe @ 09/30/13 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sportzbro


	Dude, you are making a fool of yourself. Just stop. And really, *Ground's Keepers? Trainers? Tutors?* - They def shouldn't be cashing in their $35K per year to keep YOUR fields in pristine condition so YOU can play YOUR GAME. The tutors shouldn't be compensated either to keep your stupid *** eligible, and the trainers need not even show up anymore when you can't figure out why your foot hurts. Maybe the poor souls that have to wash your uniforms and tighten up helmets shouldn't get a dime (many are just interns anyway) because you can do your own laundry. Do you even realize how much time, effort, resources, and bodies already go into your football playing days? That's not even getting into the administration portion that you mentioned with AD's and marketing departments which go to great lengths in an effort to help put butts in the seats when your team sucks. But it's obvious you don't consider all that because you're busy with your image and complaining about how "exploited" you are. Amateur athletes are playing for a college which does way more than focus on football/basketball. Athletes are nothing but bodies wearing the name of the school while they get a hell of a lot more perks than the average student. I'll admit that I'm unsure exactly how the sports revenues are precisely distributed (that you feel so entitled to), but it is eventually funneled into new facilities, professor's salaries, campus buildings, the student recreation center, etc. You know - things that make the university run properly, so you actually have somewhere to play? It's different than the pro's because with the NFL or NBA - there's no ancillary costs that the universities face. No students, teachers, lab equipment, bike paths, rec centers, on & on to take care of and provide for. Just the arena, staff, and players. Once you get to that level, then & only then should you be able to "get yours".

Again no is addressing the actual issue here. If the NCAA removes the rules that prevent SA's from making money from 3rd parties none of the other things the individual schools do with the surplus would be disturbed. For the I don't know how many times nobody has a legit reason based on statistics and logical reasoning why these players shouldn't be able to receive any form of compensation from a 3rd party. Instead y'all are arguing about why the schools aren't paying the students directly.

# 116 sportzbro @ 09/30/13 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe


	Again no is addressing the actual issue here. If the NCAA removes the rules that prevent SA's from making money from 3rd parties none of the other things the individual schools do with the surplus would be disturbed. For the I don't know how many times nobody has a legit reason based on statistics and logical reasoning why these players shouldn't be able to receive any form of compensation from a 3rd party. Instead y'all are arguing about why the schools aren't paying the students directly.

It's abundantly clear you really have no grasp on this issue other than, "I should be able to sign a deal with Nike as a sophomore and still get everything else." - It's not that simple.

How do you actually go about distributing 3rd party compensation?
Is it additional perks or straight up payments?
Who brokers these deals, what are their fees, who hires them?
What players are entitled to it?
What happens if you fail your classes - are you still eligible for those payments?
Is it just for individual players or an entire team?
How much are they entitled to - Is there a cap?
Does every player receive equal amounts or is it based on performance and time played?
Does it cover all athletes and not just football and basketball?
How does it effect how much of their tuition, housing, food, etc. is covered by the university?
Since they're getting paid by 3rd parties, they should be able to pay for their own tuition, books, etc. right?
Can you tax the compensation, and if so how much goes to party X, Y, the school and government?
How will wealthy boosters that were once band members or tennis players for university react when their programs' members and players aren't able to receive these additional benefits?
Can boosters and alumni pay the players acting as some 3rd party endorser?
Since players can now be paid by 3rd parties, will boosters be more or less willing to shell cash donations for the school?
What will be the outlining qualifications to be recognized as an official 3rd party endorser?
What if an athlete signs a deal with Nike, but plays for an Adidas school, or even refuses to wear the Adidas brand?
Since they are being compensated like professional athletes, can they be fined on top of suspensions?
Who determines and/or collects these fines?
How will players who have signed on to do advertising effect supposedly unbiased voters when they see certain players on certain teams every commercial break?
Where, in your very, very busy schedule do you have time for commercials, TV spots, paid appearances, paid lectures, or paid autograph sessions?
How will it effect the marketing plan that's already in place for the team when certain athletes have their own 3rd party commitments?
What about the usage of official school marks in said 3rd party agreements?
Does the CLC get a piece of this? What about the school? Can they even use the school's identity in their dealings with 3rd parties?
How does the general student body react when their fellow classmates that are also athletes have a free ride, perks, and are now receiving endorsement deals?
Are they able to accept these deals before signing with a college?
How will this effect recruiting?
How will this effect high school or AAU athletes, and where do you put the cutoff point?
Will being able to sign these 3rd party deals effect draft eligibility?
Can you then sign with an agent as a freshmen in college?
How does the athletic department handle dealing with athletes who are already represented by agents?
What if players are being advised by agents to not play at certain schools, or play at certain positions?

It's Pandora's Box, and would effectively kill amateur sports. There is no other answer - it's common sense. You don't need "statistical" data on the matter.

They are not professional athletes. What you fail to realize with your simple "get mine" scope on the subject is that once you remove the rules you're gonna need to add even more.

# 117 swiftychampleone @ 09/30/13 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BizDevConglomerate


	I agree with you, but the gamer has to have time. And the monopolies know this. We make time fir E3 we make time to check these blogs, we make time for load screens, and downloading updated rosters inside the game. This is my point. Change is necessary, and evolution doesn't only belong to nature. Times are changing, you can't br overall happy with the games. For me it's headed to give up on em if they don't get better. Were throwing money away in my opinion. These games aren't cheap, and they say it's not cheap to make. My background: Middle line backer HS, JUCO Major in JUCO- Communications/Color Analyst BBA International Business. Why is this important, I played sports at a high level, and have been around big time sports since a kid. I know what sports look like, sound like, and cost to be great. I studied marketing and the science of business. If this idea had a team, the marketing dept would be responsible for getting ppl ready for the new changes. The same has happened to Cell phones, cars, TV'S and even education. Look at online campuses vs. Ground. So out the box the game needs to reflect what we see, similar to PES did. And look how many ppl bought PES. What we do differently is educate the consumer about the community aspect and roster changes. Give access to the rosters so the rosters and be updated. The same way 2K has done this year with vids, Interviews, and blogs. That's the gaming community. Remember one thing. Kids don't buy games as much as tgeir parents do. And many gamers ate parents who grew up playing Madden, College bball/football/baseball and see the changes. It's just work and it's possible. Look at the type of support ppl would Gove knowing it's a community driven company, development team, and marketing. Ppl love the underdogs. This is my opinion. And I think it can happen.

If these companies are inclined to give it a shot, let them. Cool background and it helps you have a clear understanding of sports. This is my opinion but I just can't see it. You know we're the "lazy" generation that cares less about being creative and wants it done for us. This may be accomplished in individual sports like a "barebones" wrestling, boxing or MMA. Team sports? Totally different. I'm thinking about all of the things I want out of my league in a team sports league like Baseball, Hoops, Football and Hockey. I want my league to have parity. But in order to achieve that, I have to go to each team create star and superstar players to balance it out. That's a lot of work for the gamer. But like you say, if folks choose to make time for it, then it's no issue to them. History shows that trying this method isn't so successful. Brand recognition sells.

# 118 da ThRONe @ 09/30/13 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sportzbro


	It's abundantly clear you really have no grasp on this issue other than, "I should be able to sign a deal with Nike as a sophomore and still get everything else." - It's not that simple. How do you actually go about distributing 3rd party compensation? Is this serious? The 3rd party seeks out each individual athlete. Is it additional perks or straight up payments? It's whatever the 3rd party chooses Who brokers these deals, what are their fees, who hires them? That would be up to each individual SA What players are entitled to it? Anybody. Just like you have the right to do a deal or accept money from any party you choose. What happens if you fail your classes - are you still eligible for those payments? Yes. These arrangements are either gifts or seperate endorsements. Is it just for individual players or an entire team? Individuals. Also it would make sense for these kids to have some type of union that handle other grieves How much are they entitled to - Is there a cap? No there's no cap Does every player receive equal amounts or is it based on performance and time played? It's based solely on the 3rd party. Does it cover all athletes and not just football and basketball? All student athletes. How does it effect how much of their tuition, housing, food, etc. is covered by the university? Not at all. Since it doesn't actually effect the individual schools bottom line. Since they're getting paid by 3rd parties, they should be able to pay for their own tuition, books, etc. right? Again this doesn't affect the student relationship to their respective schools since all money comes from a 3rd party. Can you tax the compensation, and if so how much goes to party X, Y, the school and government? Of course endorsement money will be tax. Is this a serious question. They'll be taxed based on State and Federal laws. Same with gifts they'll all have to be legal. Which should be common sense. How will wealthy boosters that were once band members or tennis players for university react when their programs' members and players aren't able to receive these additional benefits? Who said it doesn't apply to all SA's? Can boosters and alumni pay the players acting as some 3rd party endorser? Boosters can give the money directly to SA's so long as it complies with State and Federal law with giving gifts or money. Since players can now be paid by 3rd parties, will boosters be more or less willing to shell cash donations for the school? Not a booster can't answer this question. What will be the outlining qualifications to be recognized as an official 3rd party endorser? If it's a must every 3rd party qualify as either booster or endorser setting up said qualifications would not be difficult at all. What if an athlete signs a deal with Nike, but plays for an Adidas school, or even refuses to wear the Adidas brand? See actual pro sports league. Each kid would wear the team unies, but wear their endorser accessories. Since they are being compensated like professional athletes, can they be fined on top of suspensions? False they are not compensated like pro athletes. This line make me question your understanding of how this would work altogether. Who determines and/or collects these fines? Can a school fine a student on a academics scholarship just because they have a form of income seperate from the school? How will players who have signed on to do advertising effect supposedly unbiased voters when they see certain players on certain teams every commercial break? This is almost too silly to responed to. How does this change anything. Even now some athletes get more exposure than others. Where, in your very, very busy schedule do you have time for commercials, TV spots, paid appearances, paid lectures, or paid autograph sessions? And another silly comment. They have more than enough down time to make it work. How will it effect the marketing plan that's already in place for the team when certain athletes have their own 3rd party commitments? I have no clue, however using this as a reason not to is very illogical. What about the usage of official school marks in said 3rd party agreements? All rights belong to the school. So either both SA and 3rd party has to get approval from the school. Does the CLC get a piece of this? What about the school? Can they even use the school's identity in their dealings with 3rd parties? See the answer above How does the general student body react when their fellow classmates that are also athletes have a free ride, perks, and are now receiving endorsement deals? Who cares? I fail to see how this even impact the average student in the slightest. Are they able to accept these deals before signing with a college? Yes. How will this effect recruiting? Can't say for sure. But please don't use the lack of competitive balance card when that balance doesn't exist under the current format. How will this effect high school or AAU athletes, and where do you put the cutoff point? No cutoff point. There's no cutoff point in how much each universities can get in their deals. Nobody can say how it'll affect AAU or HS. Will being able to sign these 3rd party deals effect draft eligibility? I can't see any reasons why it would. Can you then sign with an agent as a freshmen in college? Yes. These guys need representation with their dealing with 3rd parties. How does the athletic department handle dealing with athletes who are already represented by agents? Each group represent two seperate dealings. No need for either to have dealing with one or the others. What if players are being advised by agents to not play at certain schools, or play at certain positions? How is that any different than an over bearing family member? Again it's still the coaches team and he makes the decision. If a kid don't like how he's being used he still only has the same option he has whether he has a agent or he's receiving compensation from a 3rd party. It's Pandora's Box, and would effectively kill amateur sports. There is no other answer - it's common sense. You don't need "statistical" data on the matter. They are not professional athletes. What you fail to realize with your simple "get mine" scope on the subject is that once you remove the rules you're gonna need to add even more.

1st I respect you at least asking some question about what is being suggested.

However you seem to be missing out on the most key element. They would still be amateurs. Pro athletes sign contracts and are paid solely for playing said sport. These young men and women would be playing a sport for their scholarships and benefits provided by the school. All dealing with 3rd parties would be seperate from school except when they seek out permission for using all things trademarked by the school. Samething afforded to ever other student on campus whether they are there on a scholarship or not.

# 119 sportzbro @ 09/30/13 09:06 PM

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	1st I respect you at least asking some question about what is being suggested. However you seem to be missing out on the most key element. They would still be amateurs. Pro athletes sign contracts and are paid solely for playing said sport. These young men and women would be playing a sport for their scholarships and benefits provided by the school. All dealing with 3rd parties would be seperate from school except when they seek out permission for using all things trademarked by the school. Samething afforded to ever other student on campus whether they are there on a scholarship or not.

Thanks for the laughs.

# 120 ubernoob @ 09/30/13 09:15 PM

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	Same thing afforded to ever other student on campus whether they are there on a scholarship or not.

If they want to make some money in college, they don't have to play sports and can get a job just like every other student.

Playing a sport isn't something you're entitled to do. Other kids are paying fees to help subsidize everything about the sports. Other people (boosters, etc.) are paying to help subsidize everything about the sports.

I haven't known ONE D1 athlete outside of football and baseball (even then, nobody I personally knew - just the overblown media coverage about it) that has sat back and thought "Man I should get paid for this ****." It's silly, is what it is.

EDIT: Just so it doesn't come off the wrong way. I wouldn't be opposed to them being able to make money somehow, but I have not seen one alternate proposed that is realistic by any means. I'm not saying "NO" because "that's how it's supposed to be." I'm saying "No" because there have been no alternates proposed that would work.

Count me in for the scaling back of college athletics and actually treating the "Big 2" athletes like all the other athletes are treated, though.

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