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Old 09-30-2013, 09:06 PM   #145
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Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

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1st I respect you at least asking some question about what is being suggested.

However you seem to be missing out on the most key element. They would still be amateurs. Pro athletes sign contracts and are paid solely for playing said sport. These young men and women would be playing a sport for their scholarships and benefits provided by the school. All dealing with 3rd parties would be seperate from school except when they seek out permission for using all things trademarked by the school. Samething afforded to ever other student on campus whether they are there on a scholarship or not.
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:15 PM   #146
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Same thing afforded to ever other student on campus whether they are there on a scholarship or not.
If they want to make some money in college, they don't have to play sports and can get a job just like every other student.

Playing a sport isn't something you're entitled to do. Other kids are paying fees to help subsidize everything about the sports. Other people (boosters, etc.) are paying to help subsidize everything about the sports.

I haven't known ONE D1 athlete outside of football and baseball (even then, nobody I personally knew - just the overblown media coverage about it) that has sat back and thought "Man I should get paid for this ****." It's silly, is what it is.

EDIT: Just so it doesn't come off the wrong way. I wouldn't be opposed to them being able to make money somehow, but I have not seen one alternate proposed that is realistic by any means. I'm not saying "NO" because "that's how it's supposed to be." I'm saying "No" because there have been no alternates proposed that would work.

Count me in for the scaling back of college athletics and actually treating the "Big 2" athletes like all the other athletes are treated, though.
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:39 PM   #147
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Football draws the biggest revenue of the sports followed by basketball so they should get the money. I know its not fair to the other athletes but in the real world where I live "fair" doesn't exist.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:06 AM   #148
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Football draws the biggest revenue of the sports followed by basketball so they should get the money. I know its not fair to the other athletes but in the real world where I live "fair" doesn't exist.
Except that violates federal law.

In my eyes the best way to see what would be best for athletes (not just football and basketball, but all athletes) would be to ask them, "What would you rather have, an athletic scholarship or the ability to market yourselves?" Because if the students could make money off of their likeness, why would they need scholarships in the first place? This is the only way it could work with Title IX, to keep it how it is or completely erase athletic scholarships, which would hinder probably 99% of athletes.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:09 AM   #149
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Football draws the biggest revenue of the sports followed by basketball so they should get the money. I know its not fair to the other athletes but in the real world where I live "fair" doesn't exist.
Not only is that a violation of United States Federal law, it isn't feasible. The reason college football and basketball work so well for the schools is it funds the other athletic programs that attract students to their schools. If you pay the men's basketball and football players, federal law be damned, you need to either cut other sports programs or raise tuition to God knows what level to offset the costs.

It will not happen. It isn't legal and it isn't business smart. When it is high school, everybody bitches and moans when sports, music and clubs get cut, but when it is college we should just cut everything to pay the football players.

Somebody mentioned trainers, and grounds keepers exploiting the athletes. So the trainer my high school hired exploited me? Really? I'm pretty sure he helped me to prevent shin splints and other physical ailments that plague runners. He also provided my teammates and I with a workout so we could not only maximize our potential, but have a healthy lifting routine. I felt so exploited.

For the grounds crew, this is just nonsense. Colleges have groundskeepers. Who do you think makes those lawns look picture perfect around all those old buildings? If anybody is being exploited it is the paying student, not the student athlete.

If federal law didn't prevent the NCAA from capping coaches and athletic director salaries, I'd favor that, but the Federal government doesn't like trusts for some reason.
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I think the easy answer here is to create a minor league system of some kind in the NFL where players can go pro straight out of college. I agree that I don't want amateur sports killed off (I do think all NCAA athletes deserve a small stipend), but why are we trying so hard to keep them from making money?
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Old 10-01-2013, 04:41 AM   #151
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If these companies are inclined to give it a shot, let them. Cool background and it helps you have a clear understanding of sports. This is my opinion but I just can't see it. You know we're the "lazy" generation that cares less about being creative and wants it done for us. This may be accomplished in individual sports like a "barebones" wrestling, boxing or MMA. Team sports? Totally different. I'm thinking about all of the things I want out of my league in a team sports league like Baseball, Hoops, Football and Hockey. I want my league to have parity. But in order to achieve that, I have to go to each team create star and superstar players to balance it out. That's a lot of work for the gamer. But like you say, if folks choose to make time for it, then it's no issue to them. History shows that trying this method isn't so successful. Brand recognition sells.
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"It's Pandora's Box, and would effectively kill amateur sports. There is no other answer - it's common sense. You don't need "statistical" data on the matter.

They are not professional athletes. What you fail to realize with your simple "get mine" scope on the subject is that once you remove the rules you're gonna need to add even more"

The players need to be paid... Point blank... You're dead wrong with your Amateur Sports view... The idea of Amateur sports is dead in this country... To tell someone they aren't allowed to maximize their earning potential is downright criminal... We're not talking about the Schools paying these players, with state money, we're talking about the players HAVING THE RIGHT to earn money on their own, signing autographs and whatnot... What is so wrong with that??? Do you think Johnny Football is the only player signing autographs? Do you think Pryor was the only guy to get some free tats?

gimmie a break man... you're living in a different world if you can't see that what the NCAA is doing is pimping out these players for BILLIONS OF DOLLARS all while telling them they can't sign autographs...

Oh, but don't forget, when the "star" player gets in trouble, you can bet your *** they will be their on Gameday when Johnny Football has to play #1 Alabama, why you ask? Because if he didn't play NOBODY WOULD WATCH!!!... Same thing for those Buckeyes... The NCAA Allowed them to play in the Sugar Bowl, then came back and made another ruling at a later time just to cash in...
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