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# 141 Only1LT @ 04/29/13 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal
Nope, I'm a glutton for punishment each year, lol. Seriously though, I don't just take the impression of anybody but someone like Simfball, who has been critical of locomotion long before it was popular stated this in a recently posted interview.

9). EA Tiburon has said that they have reworked player movement for Madden NFL 25 and added foot planting to eliminate swerve from previous editions. Is this important to you and do you see it being successful?


SimFBallCritic: IMPORTANT? That’s not even the word. This is an area that I’ve personally asked to be addressed for several years. The feature adds a more realistic element to the running game. Ball Carriers will now have to plant before the change direction. The beauty of this mechanic is the fact that you can make simple cuts and jukes with just the left analog stick. Tired of guys running a dive play and then unrealistically breaking to the outside to beat your entire front 7, not anymore! The little nuances you will see with this new mechanic is too much for me to try and reference here, but once you get a chance to see it in action you will understand what all the fuss is about. Whether or not swerve running has been completely eliminated is still to be determined. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...table-utc.html

That sounds exactly like what I have been wanting in Madden in regards to left stick movement. Also, it's not like I look at this stuff from a position of playing the game on the current consoles. I am looking at all this stuff as the foundation for the first Madden on new consoles, not as late additions for the 9th Madden this gen.
That's all well and good, but, and I'm going to say something potentially unpopular, but I've never been very popular anyway, so here goes:

I've watched the sim standard videos on YouTube for many, many years. I have a lot of respect for those guys. But, and here is the unpopular but, there is something about being let on the other side of the velvet rope, that makes things not look as bleak as they did when you were an outsider. I'm not saying they have become yes men, and I'm sure that they are fighting the fight and trying to do what they can, in their limited capacity, to make the game better, but that rope man... it can put a smile on even the meanest grill man lol.

Now what am I trying to say? That I don't care who's giving the opinion. I've heard a billion opinions from a billion great guys who I respect, from a billion CD, GC, and any other acronym that you can think of, events, and I have yet to see a single one say, to the best of my recollection, this game is terrible, don't buy it. Yet I've seen many finished products, that I would have assigned that very assessment.

So bottom line, whether the build they played was thrown away and they baited and switched the public, or the velvet rope got them, or whether they just aren't as damn picky as I am, it doesn't matter. I don't care what anyone says about their opinion of an early look/play test of Madden, because I've been conditioned not to care, because it is ALWAYS positive. Yet here we...
 
# 142 roadman @ 04/29/13 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Only1LT
That's all well and good, but, and I'm going to say something potentially unpopular, but I've never been very popular anyway, so here goes:

I've watched the sim standard videos on YouTube for many, many years. I have a lot of respect for those guys. But, and here is the unpopular but, there is something about being let on the other side of the velvet rope, that makes things not look as bleak as they did when you were an outsider. I'm not saying they have become yes men, and I'm sure that they are fighting the fight and trying to do what they can, in their limited capacity, to make the game better, but that rope man... it can put a smile on even the meanest grill man lol.

Now what am I trying to say? That I don't care who's giving the opinion. I've heard a billion opinions from a billion great guys who I respect, from a billion CD, GC, and any other acronym that you can think of, events, and I have yet to see a single one say, to the best of my recollection, this game is terrible, don't buy it. Yet I've seen many finished products, that I would have assigned that very assessment.

So bottom line, whether the build they played was thrown away and they baited and switched the public, or the velvet rope got them, or whether they just aren't as damn picky as I am, it doesn't matter. I don't care what anyone says about their opinion of an early look/play test of Madden, because I've been conditioned not to care, because it is ALWAYS positive. Yet here we...

You aren't the first to say it and something tells me you won't be the last.

All we can do is hope for history to change.

Just put out a good game.
 
# 143 DaveDQ @ 04/29/13 01:35 PM
The spin moves and jukes are way too detached from actual motion. You just can't be going one direction like that and then...SPIN...and then move down the field some and do that ridiculous slide juke.

Those types of moves need to be attached to what happens before and after the move takes place. This is where Madden continues to drop the ball with animations. It's like the animation drops from the sky.
 
# 144 Trick13 @ 04/29/13 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveDQ
The spin moves and jukes are way too detached from actual motion. You just can't be going one direction like that and then...SPIN...and then move down the field some and do that ridiculous slide juke.

Those types of moves need to be attached to what happens before and after the move takes place. This is where Madden continues to drop the ball with animations. It's like the animation drops from the sky.
That is because;
It would have made more sense to go back to PS2 schematic of the controls, which by their very "layout", forced the user to let go or release the "sprint" in order to pull off "footwork" based moves.
 
# 145 DaveDQ @ 04/29/13 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal
Fair enough but I am not elevating my interest in what Simf stated about locomotion to the whole game being a worthwhile buy, it is what it is. It's not like basic cuts and jukes mapped to the left stick is some huge game play innovation, for other sports games at least. When asked about swerving/zig-zagging last year, nobody I can recall claimed it was fixed, some like RGiles and The Sim Standard guys, among others, came out early to say it was untouched in M13.

Again, I look at all this stuff through a potential of Madden on the new consoles prism, not the disappointment that has been Madden this gen. So when I read Simf state something like that, it gives me optimism that things are starting off on the right foot for Madden on the new consoles.

Those are good comments.

And...your signature quote is so very true.
 
# 146 Only1LT @ 04/29/13 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal
Fair enough but I am not elevating my interest in what Simf stated about locomotion to the whole game being a worthwhile buy, it is what it is. It's not like basic cuts and jukes mapped to the left stick is some huge game play innovation, for other sports games at least. When asked about swerving/zig-zagging last year, nobody I can recall claimed it was fixed, some like RGiles and The Sim Standard guys, among others, came out early to say it was untouched in M13.

Again, I look at all this stuff through a potential of Madden on the new consoles prism, not the disappointment that has been Madden this gen. So when I read Simf state something like that, it gives me optimism that things are starting off on the right foot for Madden on the new consoles.
They couldn't say that zig-zagging was fixed, because it was admittedly untouched by the dev team, so how could it possibly be fixed? Now fast forward to this year, where they ARE saying that they are making changes to locomotion, and if someone had said that it was still poor, THAT would open my eyes, because I don't ever remember seeing something like that happen. Again, not taking shots at those that have access to play-test the game. Call me a skeptic I guess.

You are the most optimistic person I see on these boards lol. I say that for this reason. There are plenty of people that are optimistic, but most of them love the game the way it is. You are one of the few people I see that has serious issues with the game, yet you have nothing but a positive outlook for the future, no matter how many times that optimism is proven to be unwarranted. And you're continuing the tradition by being optimistic for next gen Madden. Which you are kind of giving up on this gen Madden at as consequence, so maybe you aren't as optimistic as I thought when I started writing this paragraph, but let's just go with it lol.

I wish I could share your optimism, but I have absolutely no reason to think that the next gen will be any better than this one. You can rip out parts and put in new parts, hell you could completely start over from the ground up, but if your direction for what the end product is going to be, doesn't change, or even worse, if you have no idea how to achieve what in your heart you would really like to achieve and give to your fans, does it really matter?
 
# 147 SageInfinite @ 04/29/13 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

Tiburon reminds me of my gf in the sense of making males, which a presume are Madden's largest demographic, out to be wayyyyy more complicated than what we actually are. We usually don't beat around the bush, no need to "read between the lines" with us, just keep it simple and straightforward. With her, like with Tiburon, I have eternal optimism that they will eventually give me what I want because it's not that complicated, in spite of the number of times they keep handing me ish I never once asked for, that they wanted me to have.
This is great, lmao!
 


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