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MLB 13 The Show - Operation Sports Full Minors 2013: Edition v.2 - Opening Day

10:37 PM - April 14, 2013 by Knight165

Okay....here is the updated version of the O.S.F.M.

First...thank you again to everyone....seriously. Awesome job once again.

I'd like to also than Ripner for collecting the data to make changes to v2 and to Totte for implementing a lot of those changes to give me a good start!

Changes in V2
-there were some RP changed to SP due to them being in the rotation in AAA/AA
-there were some position changes due to players playing there...this includes primary position changes other than normal primary to accommodate these moves

Bal-created A. Baker 1b/OF replacing Connor Narron
Bal-created Z. Booker C replacing Brandon Waring
Bal-created Chris Robinson C replacing Jose Gil
Bal-C. Jackson 1B primary
Bal-Z Wheeler 3B primary
Bal- Ty Kelly 2B primary
Bal-Adde Mark Hendrickson(thanks to teeds!)

Bos-created A. Rosario C replacing A. Ibarra
Bos-Added B. Snyder
Bos-Diaz primary to 2B
Bos-Holt primary to SS
Bos-Linares primary to CF
Bos-Brentz primary to RF
Bos-add Jr. to Jackie Bradley

TB-created C. Sietzer replacing M. Sheridan
TB-Figueroa primary to 3B
TB-Fontenot primary to 3B

Tor-created Kevin Nolan replacing Kenan Bailli

ChiA-created Luis Durango replacing Stefan Cartrell
Chi-created Tyler Greene replacing Andy Gozalez

Cle-created A Lavisky C replacing D. Childs

KC-created Mat Fields
KC-created Angel Franco 2B replacing Luis Durango
KC-created Willy Taveras replacing C Testa

Minn-C Smith primary OF
Minn-created Rey Rodriguez replacing D. Romero
Minn-created Richardson replacing N. Roberts

Hou-created R. Sosa 2b replacing A. Simunic
Hou-created J. Meyer replacing A. Bailey
Hou-created J. Mier replacing B. Wikoff
Hou-M Kraus primary to 1B
Hou-added R Ruiz

LAA created J Grube SP
LAA-created RJ Alvarez RP
LAA-created Luis Rodriguez 2B replacing S Johnson
LAA-created R. Lopez OF replacing G. Mitchell

Oak-created L Montz C replacing G. Daley
Oak created A. Alliotta 1b replacing D Robinson
Oak-created J. Barfield RF replacing J. Whitaker

Sea-added R Poythress
Sea-added J. Dunigan
(some other changes...all thanks to seanjeezy)

Tex-created R Feierbrand SP replacing Fulton
Tex-created T Telis C replacing J. Apodaca
Tex- created CH Chiang OF replacing J Prince
Tex -created O. Herrera SS repacing M. Smith

Atl-created I Thomas RP replacing J. Lugo
Atl-created C Wemberley OF replacing A Milligan
Atl-created C. Merrerro 1b replacing B. Friday

Mia-created R Morey SP replacing Z. Neal
Mia-created M. Neil SP replacing D. Self
Mia-created J. Jefferies C replacing K Skipworth
Mia-created B Lasath 1b replacing D. Webb

NYN-created L Verritt replacing M Koch
NYN-created T. Pill replacing M Bowman
NYN-created C Huchingson replacing R Fraser
NYN-created R. Adams replacing J Boyd
NYN-created E Campbell replaing D. Lawley

Wash-M Owings secondary to OF
Wah-Bloxom secondary to OF

Phi-created S Rosen SP replacing M. Cisco
Phi-created H Neris RP replacing J Whatcott

ChiN-created E Jokisch SP replacing A Rivero
ChiN-created L Flores C replacing C Contreras
ChiN-created J Fernandez C replacing C Krist

Cin-created G Reynolds SP replacing L Armstrong
Cin-created T Bowe replacing VanceJ
Cin-created F Perez OF replacing D Robinson
Cin-created R Chang 3b replacing R Wright
Cin-created T Rahnier 3B replacing J Silverio
Cin-created D Lohman SS replacing B Peterson
Cin-created B Smith OF replacing B Amaral

Mil-created Z Kroenke replacing D Meadows
Mil-created J Hoey replacing D Byrd
Mil-created O Buller C replacing M Walla
Mil-created H Statia 2B replacing C Hawn
Mil-created B Davis SS replacing B Macias
Mil-created S Vuchinch replacing C George

Pit-created C Sadler SP replacing B Baker

StL-created Albitz SS replacing A Ehrich
StL-created C Huffman OF replacing C Swauger(he was a starter in AAA...he could come back)

Ari-created E Smith SP replacing T Siemens
Ari-redid Z Spruil face
Ari-redid A Meo face
Ari-created C McMurray C replacing M Reed

Col-created I Froneberger P replacing R Lewis
Col-created D Tarleton C replacing G Molina
Col-created D Cleary OF replacing J. Clark

LaN-created S Cilladi C replacing R Castro(FA list)
LaN-created R Ynoa 2B replacing B Galvez
LaN-created CJ Retherford replacing K Russell
LaN-created M Rojas SS replacing D Sweeney

SD-created J Merchan SS replacing S Carroll
SD-Added B. Allen FA replacing M Tissenbaum
SD-created A Contreras 2B replacing Y Asencio

SF-created J Snodgrass SP replacing J Stevenson
SF-created J Valdez replacing M Kickham(duplicate player)
SF-created M Wagner C replacing J Weeks
SF-crated B. Krill OF replacing G Buechele
SF created S. Strosmsoe IF replacing D Mayora

ALL lineups and rotations for each level are as they were for the FIRST game vs RHP and vs. LHP WHERE POSSIBLE
To keep lineups rotations intact...you must use 30 team control and send each player to the PROPER LEVEL to avoid CPU interaction.

Injured players on the MLB are in Single A....

-All 40 man rosters are as intact as possible(60 day DL players cause too many players on 40 man...I left MLB level players on the 40 man)

Here is the file.....http://www.sendspace.com/file/sg8rk0

Thanks!

IN THE ROSTER VAULT AS
O.S.F.M. v2 Opening Day

M.K.
Knight165

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# 141 AC @ 04/21/13 07:48 PM

In a terribly small sample, Ruiz *does* own a .217 ISO, for whatever it's worth lol. I remember him on the Jays. Good times..

# 142 hjgilber @ 04/21/13 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by yanksdaniel99


	The guy hitting .346 with 6 XBH, 7 steals, more walks then strikeouts in 14 games is putting up pathetic offensive #'s ? In a near 40 game sample, Baez is hitting below the Mendoza line with 7 walks and 42 Ks in High A. I love Baez, more so then most Cubs fans but at some point he's gotta put up the #'s to match the tools. Lindor is certainly the superior player at this point, despite Baez's enormous ceiling.

A) Technically he's not below the Mendoza line.

B) SSS for both Baez's poor numbers in high A last year and for Lindor's good numbers this year. Lindor is never going to hit anywhere near as much as Baez, and Baez was adjusting. He's been hitting better lately. His numbers will continue to go up.

C) the defensive point mentioned by AC is legitimate and makes sense, but Baez isn't even considered a poor defensive SS. Contrary to early reports, the overwhelming majority believe Baez can stick at SS long term. He will only move if it's for Castro, not because he has to.

# 143 AC @ 04/21/13 08:59 PM

I don't think anyone's said that Baez is poor defensively, it's just that Lindor is much, much better. He's really amazing at defense imho and his ratings probably reflect that.

A 67 for a kid in high A as raw as Baez is pretty high.

# 144 yanksdaniel99 @ 04/21/13 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hjgilber


	A) Technically he's not below the Mendoza line. B) SSS for both Baez's poor numbers in high A last year and for Lindor's good numbers this year. Lindor is never going to hit anywhere near as much as Baez, and Baez was adjusting. He's been hitting better lately. His numbers will continue to go up. C) the defensive point mentioned by AC is legitimate and makes sense, but Baez isn't even considered a poor defensive SS. Contrary to early reports, the overwhelming majority believe Baez can stick at SS long term. He will only move if it's for Castro, not because he has to.

My god, you'll just defend Baez to the ends of the earth on this one, Lindor is the better player right now.

1) Through 39 games (162 PA) in High A, Baez is hitting exactly .200 with a .241 OBP.

2) As its been stated before, we all know Baez has a higher ceiling, its a strong 7 hit tool and strong 7 power tool, however unless the plate discipline improves, it'll never show. Lindor is a much safer bet, he's a strong 6 hit tool and a moderate 5 power but with the plate discipline, he's almost sure to get there.

3) No one said Baez is a bad defender, hes probably a 5ish type but Lindor is an elite defender, a strong 7 easily. Defensively, its not even close.

Lindor is much closer to the bigs and a much safer bet to get there.

# 145 hjgilber @ 04/21/13 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACMilan99


	I don't think anyone's said that Baez is poor defensively, it's just that Lindor is much, much better. He's really amazing at defense imho and his ratings probably reflect that. A 67 for a kid in high A as raw as Baez is pretty high.

Agree that Lindor is great on D.

Also, I'm just saying that he is also quite raw and is 6 points higher. As a prospect, I prefer Baez to Almora and Lindor, and possibly prefer him over Soler due to position, but he's the lowest rated of the 4. As long as he progresses to be the best of the 4, then I guess that's fine with me.

PS, I realize there is a chance, maybe even a good one he doesn't end up the best of the 4 (that's the nature of prospects), but if they all hit their ceilings he should be for sure the best of the group, with maybe Soler pretty close but not nearly as good due to the positions they play.

# 146 hjgilber @ 04/21/13 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yanksdaniel99


	My god, you'll just defend Baez to the ends of the earth on this one, Lindor is the better player right now. 1) Through 39 games (162 PA) in High A, Baez is hitting exactly .200 with a .241 OBP. 2) As its been stated before, we all know Baez has a higher ceiling, its a strong 7 hit tool and strong 7 power tool, however unless the plate discipline improves, it'll never show. Lindor is a much safer bet, he's a strong 6 hit tool and a moderate 5 power but with the plate discipline, he's almost sure to get there. 3) No one said Baez is a bad defender, hes probably a 5ish type but Lindor is an elite defender, a strong 7 easily. Defensively, its not even close. Lindor is much closer to the bigs and a much safer bet to get there.

Again, I don't think Lindor is really closer to the bigs, they both are likely 2015 ETAs.

Also, I think saying Lindor is a 6 hit/5 power may be a little generous. It's possible but I don't know, a guy who hit .257 in A-ball, and only 6 homers in 567 PA. That seems more like a 5 hit, 4 power ceiling. He could grow into more, but I'm guessing it would be pretty hard to find hitters that had those numbers in A ball that became 6 hit/5 power.

In the end, this may be a dumb discussion to have this early. It will be clearer in June who is more progressed when more than 15 games have been played.

Both are great prospects, given they both are consensus top 20 prospects, so I'm not trying to knock either, I just prefer Baez. I guess my Baez love is well documented, but I am just very high on him and I'm guessing most GMs would take the crazy ceiling over the safe prospects when considering both are in A-ball.

Last comment: you say that Lindor is better right now, but what if his numbers go back to how he has been hitting in the past, and Baez starts to tear it up again like last year? Pretty safe to call Baez better at that point. Plus as I showed earlier, Parks has Baez as the #2 prospect in all of baseball in his prediction for next year's top 10. I just think that deserves a little more respect than he's getting on OS at the moment.

ETA: For comparison, he has Lindor #9 on his top 10 for next year.

# 147 yanksdaniel99 @ 04/21/13 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hjgilber


	Again, I don't think Lindor is really closer to the bigs, they both are likely 2015 ETAs. Also, I think saying Lindor is a 6 hit/5 power may be a little generous. It's possible but I don't know, a guy who hit .257 in A-ball, and only 6 homers in 567 PA. That seems more like a 5 hit, 4 power ceiling. He could grow into more, but I'm guessing it would be pretty hard to find hitters that had those numbers in A ball that became 6 hit/5 power. In the end, this may be a dumb discussion to have this early. It will be clearer in June who is more progressed when more than 15 games have been played. Both are great prospects, given they both are consensus top 20 prospects, so I'm not trying to knock either, I just prefer Baez. I guess my Baez love is well documented, but I am just very high on him and I'm guessing most GMs would take the crazy ceiling over the safe prospects when considering both are in A-ball. Last comment: you say that Lindor is better right now, but what if his numbers go back to how he has been hitting in the past, and Baez starts to tear it up again like last year? Pretty safe to call Baez better at that point. Plus as I showed earlier, Parks has Baez as the #2 prospect in all of baseball in his prediction for next year's top 10. I just think that deserves a little more respect than he's getting on OS at the moment. ETA: For comparison, he has Lindor #9 on his top 10 for next year.

Hitting .257 with 33 XBH and 61 walks as an 18 year old in full season ball is incredibly impressive, I think your underrating him.

We share the exact same opinion on Baez, I'm every bit as optimistic on him as you are. However, I don't think you realize how much his lack of plate discipline hurts him. It hasn't improved and in fact has gotten slightly worse this year, and its certainly very concerning.

Funny part of this whole thing is I was the one who originally pointed out that after rerating him I had Baez at a 73. I stand by that, my intent to have him there was so he developed on time. After reconsidering, I think anywhere from a 69-72 is mine considering the risk, I personally have him at a 70 now.

# 148 hjgilber @ 04/21/13 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yanksdaniel99


	Hitting .257 with 33 XBH and 61 walks as an 18 year old in full season ball is incredibly impressive, I think your underrating him. We share the exact same opinion on Baez, I'm every bit as optimistic on him as you are. However, I don't think you realize how much his lack of plate discipline hurts him. It hasn't improved and in fact has gotten slightly worse this year, and its certainly very concerning. Funny part of this whole thing is I was the one who originally pointed out that after rerating him I had Baez at a 73. I stand by that, my intent to have him there was so he developed on time. After reconsidering, I think anywhere from a 69-72 is mine considering the risk, I personally have him at a 70 now.

I fully understand the glaring issue that is his plate discipline, I just think he will improve over time and even if he doesn't improve as much as we would hope, his other skills are so outstanding I still think he could be a pretty good player. He obviously will be best if he can figure out the discipline, that would make him scary good.

# 149 hjgilber @ 04/21/13 11:06 PM

Oh and yeah, the very advanced plate approach/discipline that Lindor showed as an 18 year old is outstanding/ridiculous, I'd just like to see him do a little more with the rest of his offensive game or else he will end up as a slicker fielding Luis Valbuena. I realize that since he's only 18, there's plenty of power projection and growth potential, but I'd still like to see a higher average.

# 150 AC @ 04/21/13 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yanksdaniel99


	We share the exact same opinion on Baez, I'm every bit as optimistic on him as you are.

Remember the 75 page debate on Baez in Scott's roster thread?

# 151 yanksdaniel99 @ 04/21/13 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACMilan99


	Remember the 75 page debate on Baez in Scott's roster thread?

LMFAOOO I do.

Clearly, nothing has changed.

# 152 skettman20 @ 04/22/13 12:14 PM

how do you download the roster to mlb 13 the show?

# 153 Totte @ 04/22/13 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by skettman20


	how do you download the roster to mlb 13 the show?

By accessing the Roster Vault under Vaults inside one of the main menus in the game. Sort by popularity or amount of downloads and you should find the roster set pretty easily

# 154 jjipp03 @ 04/23/13 12:07 PM

Can anybody reup the franchise file? Thank you!!

# 155 jjipp03 @ 04/24/13 11:06 PM

Hellllo Hellllo Hellllo! =)

# 156 omega412930 @ 04/25/13 02:53 PM

not sure if this was asked but are there good sliders recomended for these?

# 157 Knight165 @ 04/26/13 12:02 AM

If this link doesn't work....the post #89 contains the original link...

....http://www.sendspace.com/file/vpe9ql

M.K.
Knight165

# 158 Knight165 @ 04/26/13 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omega412930


	not sure if this was asked but are there good sliders recomended for these?

I set them up for default...so it's really personal preference.

M.K.
Knight165

# 159 MasonTK @ 04/26/13 12:17 PM

Trying to download to work computer and flash drive it over to a system. The link in first post doesn't work and the other link in this thread is for a franchise (plan to use it for a fantasy draft).

Anyone know what the link to the roster file is?

# 160 Knight165 @ 04/26/13 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasonTK


	Trying to download to work computer and flash drive it over to a system. The link in first post doesn't work and the other link in this thread is for a franchise (plan to use it for a fantasy draft). Anyone know what the link to the roster file is?

Sorry about that...sendspace has shortened the time it hosts the file...

Here is a new upload link....
(I'll update the first page as well)

...http://www.sendspace.com/file/sg8rk0

M.K.
Knight165

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