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NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

11:53 AM - April 3, 2013 by Steve_OS

Another NBA 2K13 roster update arrived this morning updating 14 players. Chandler Parsons and LaMarcus Aldridge had some of their ratings adjusted, but it didn't affect their overall rating.

J.R. Smith - New York Knicks +2 (84)
Iman Shumpert - New York Knicks +1 (81)
Jason Kidd - New York Knicks -1 (79)
Tobias Harris - Orlando Magic +7 (75)
Nikola Vucevic - Orlando Magic +5 (73)
Reggie Evans - Brooklyn Nets +3 (66)
Gerald Wallace - Brooklyn Nets -3 (74)
Mike Conley - Memphis Grizzlies +1 (83)
Tony Allen - Memphis Grizzlies -1 (75)
Steve Nash - Los Angeles Lakers -1 (82)
Jodie Meeks - Los Angeles Lakers +1 (69)
John Wall - Washington Wizards +3 (85)

Thomas Robinson for the Rockets is finally wearing #41. Thanks Rashidi.

Nothing else changed from the update that was released yesterday, which adjusted injured/recovered players.

To see the complete list of updates, make sure you visit The Real 2K Insider.

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# 61 stillfeelme @ 04/03/13 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cj2008nw


	out of all the Knicks players you named the only player that is overrated is Camby and maybe Kidd.... and Kenyon Martin has been a good pick up for the Knicks this season Basketball is not Baseball YOU CANT NOT JUDGE A PLAYER based on stats alone let alone ratings.... you have to look at how they are getting their points and what kind of offensive system they are running for a player and what scoring option they are on the roster

This video game uses numbers to correlate to certain stats in real life at least it tries to for association, quick play online etc. The further you get away from stats the game becomes perception to get a player a "rating". J.R. Smith is a volume scorer who is given more opportunites to shoot in NYC. Check out his numbers for FG attempts and FG% in March and April and three point shooting he is all over the board up and down but one thing is up is his attempts. He is the definition of streaky

# 62 UnfriendlyBG @ 04/03/13 11:44 PM

maddeningly inconsistent...an enigma

# 63 ksuttonjr76 @ 04/03/13 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cj2008nw


	out of all the Knicks players you named the only player that is overrated is Camby and maybe Kidd.... and Kenyon Martin has been a good pick up for the Knicks this season Basketball is not Baseball YOU CANT NOT JUDGE A PLAYER based on stats alone let alone ratings.... you have to look at how they are getting their points and what kind of offensive system they are running for a player and what scoring option they are on the roster

You could judge a player MOSTLY by stats in basketball. How do you think players, agents, and GMs decide what type of contracts to sign?

nba.com/stats and youtube videos....tells me everything I need to know about a player.

Reviewing Martin's ratings, there are a few ratings that I might question such as DAWR, OREB, STDNK, DEF, and STL. I would have to review video and stats to be 100% sure.

# 64 cj2008nw @ 04/03/13 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76


	As for J.R. Smith...the first thought that comes to my mind is how is an one-dimensional offensive player rated higher than a well-rounded player like Paul George? When I review his PER production at 82games.com, I can see that his defensive stats (DAWR, DEF, STL) are overrated. When Smith is playing SG, he's basically outscoring his opponent. When Smith is playing SF, his opponents are lighting him up offensively. The Knicks have the 3rd highest ORTG, so Smith's high rebounding is more a product of the high number of available possessions. As a result, his DREB rating is too high as well. Now, either Smith's MED rating is overrated or Paul George's MED is underrated. George is shooting 37% and Smith is shooting 40% since ASW, but there's a 10 point gap between the two. Lastly, his LAYUP and SIT ratings might be high too, since he's completely 66.7% of his driving layups. In short, Smith's an athletic, scoring machine who has a good jumper who can explode for high number of points on any given night which makes Microwave a good signature skill to have for him. Other than that, I really didn't see too many other stats that wasn't too far-fetched for him.

I agree with you that Smith's defense is somewhat overrated. ...

and JR Smith creates EVERYTHING off the dribble either it's 3pt Shots, Mid range shots or any attempts at the rim

Paul George is in a better offensive system and is flourishing well... I like Paul George a lot I think he can continue to be an all star in this league if he can learn how to take games over instead of playing so passive

# 65 stillfeelme @ 04/03/13 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76


	As for J.R. Smith...the first thought that comes to my mind is how is an one-dimensional offensive player rated higher than a well-rounded player like Paul George? When I review his PER production at 82games.com, I can see that his defensive stats (DAWR, DEF, STL) are overrated. When Smith is playing SG, he's basically outscoring his opponent. When Smith is playing SF, his opponents are lighting him up offensively. The Knicks have the 3rd highest ORTG, so Smith's high rebounding is more a product of the high number of available possessions. As a result, his DREB rating is too high as well. Now, either Smith's MED rating is overrated or Paul George's MED is underrated. George is shooting 37% and Smith is shooting 40% since ASW, but there's a 10 point gap between the two. Lastly, his LAYUP and SIT ratings might be high too, since he's completing 66.7% of his driving layups. In short, Smith's an athletic, scoring machine who has a good jumper who can explode for high number of points on any given night which makes Microwave a good signature skill to have for him. Other than that, I really didn't see too many other stats that wasn't too far-fetched for him.

Yeah once you start comparing players there starts to be a bunch of question marks because the insider is cherry picking which players to edit based off feedback or it seems popularity but he isn't normalizing the whole roster.

# 66 cj2008nw @ 04/03/13 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tyklug2013


	I'm not downing him. He scores well, but he's inefficient. He's just average defensively, as well. This isn't just a Jazz fan bashing on a big market team player. If anything, I think JR is a solid player, but should never be a number 1 option, which is what he is on 2k. I mean some kids will play 2k13 and jack up 25 shots with JR and only shoot like 4 or 5 times with 'Melo. That ain't right. I'm guessing your team is a big market team, smh LOL

and if it is so what?! who cares but I'm not going to nitpick at other teams players because my players aren't being updated that just childish and immature.. and at one part of the season Smith WAS the first option and he was able to Carry the offensive load while Melo was out... I doubt Parsons would be able to do that

# 67 ksuttonjr76 @ 04/04/13 12:00 AM

Yeah, I saw that when I was looking into Smith's SOD rating. I read that 83% of his points are unassisted. That's crazy.

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# 68 ksuttonjr76 @ 04/04/13 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by stillfeelme


	Yeah once you start comparing players there starts to be a bunch of question marks because the insider is cherry picking which players to edit based off feedback or it seems popularity but he isn't normalizing the whole roster.

That's why 2K Sports needs to bring back the 2K Insider blog back. Man, you would have dudes (like myself) who would get upset about something (bandwagon fan, groupie, etc), and they'll start looking at ALL the players from other teams. As result, players were getting downgraded just to get them properly aligned with other players. For example, Joel Anthony's 93 BLK rating, Corey Brewer's 84 STL rating, and the high number of 90+ OREB ratings would be on my hitlist right now. In NBA 2K11, there were a couple of "global" adjustments made when users would post such information.

# 69 JazzMan @ 04/04/13 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cj2008nw


	and if it is so what?! who cares but I'm not going to nitpick at other teams players because my players aren't being updated that just childish and immature.. and at one part of the season Smith WAS the first option and he was able to Carry the offensive load while Melo was out... I doubt Parsons would be able to do that

How many times must I repeat myself to get this through your thick skull of yours? I am NOT bashing JR because my team is getting neglected by the Insider. I'm bashing him because he has flaws in his game that are NOT replicated on 2k.

He's not nearly as consistent as he is on 2k.

Regarding him being the number 1 option: that's where his FG% took a big dip. He took poor shots because he felt that he had to play hero ball, and look what happened: the Knicks fell into a slump and JR's percentages fell. That's not a consistent player or a number 1 option. He benefits off playing with 'Melo.

I never said Parsons was a number 1 option, I said he is a better overall player than JR. Better defender, better rebounder, better rebounder, better facilitator, more efficient shooter, and simply a better player than JR.

I'll say it again: I like JR Smith. Great scorer, but he's inconsistent and inefficient at the only thing that he is expected to do.

# 70 LoSoisNiCEx414 @ 04/04/13 12:34 AM

Wow Joel Anthony has a block rating higher than LARRY SANDERS!! Lol

# 71 Angel_G @ 04/04/13 12:35 AM

J.R. Smith is way better than Parsons, maybe Parsons had an off night or whatever this one time I saw him play all he did was shoot 3s if he wasn't open he would just pass out just like Steve Novak. J.R. can hit game winners and he can play defense of course Parsons has the size advantage for rebounding. J.R. can also go to the hoop get fouled, dunk or make a layup so he doesn't just shoot. If they swapped him for Mayo the Mavs would be in the playoffs no question.

# 72 LoSoisNiCEx414 @ 04/04/13 12:38 AM

Mayo >JR anyday.

# 73 Scramz718 @ 04/04/13 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76


	You could judge a player MOSTLY by stats in basketball. How do you think players, agents, and GMs decide what type of contracts to sign?

What are you serious? Stats are misleading players don't get contracts base on stats. NBA teams use SCOUTS not STATS to evaluate talent!!!

# 74 ksuttonjr76 @ 04/04/13 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Scramz718


	What are you serious? Stats are misleading players don't get contracts base on stats. NBA teams use SCOUTS not STATS to evaluate talent!!!

Stats = Production on the court, and I did use the word "mostly". Since stats are misleading, I guess James White can command a contract more than Rudy Gay next season, because the scouting reports will say that James White is a "gifted athlete". Also, do you think that the Miami Heat sent scouts to observe Lebron James to determine if he was worth the max contract offer?

EDIT:
Information is kinda old, but you get the point.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

# 75 cj2008nw @ 04/04/13 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tyklug2013


	How many times must I repeat myself to get this through your thick skull of yours? I am NOT bashing JR because my team is getting neglected by the Insider. I'm bashing him because he has flaws in his game that are NOT replicated on 2k. He's not nearly as consistent as he is on 2k. Regarding him being the number 1 option: that's where his FG% took a big dip. He took poor shots because he felt that he had to play hero ball, and look what happened: the Knicks fell into a slump and JR's percentages fell. That's not a consistent player or a number 1 option. He benefits off playing with 'Melo. I never said Parsons was a number 1 option, I said he is a better overall player than JR. Better defender, better rebounder, better rebounder, better facilitator, more efficient shooter, and simply a better player than JR. I'll say it again: I like JR Smith. Great scorer, but he's inconsistent and inefficient at the only thing that he is expected to do.

I don't think you watch basketball I think you just read stats because if you actually sat down and watched the games you wouldn't say that and all the responses your giving me are what people used to say about him years ago based on reputation...

anybody that knows basketball would never say Chandler Parsons is better than JR Smith

and if he's so inefficient why does he have a higher EFF rating than Parsons and Parsons actually starts LOL...

IDK why you think Parsons is so good... he's just a better Carlos Delfino to me

# 76 cj2008nw @ 04/04/13 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76


	Stats = Production on the court, and I did use the word "mostly". Since stats are misleading, I guess James White can command a contract more than Rudy Gay next season, because the scouting reports will say that James White is a "gifted athlete". Also, do you think that the Miami Heat sent scouts to observe Lebron James to determine if he was worth the max contract offer? EDIT: Information is kinda old, but you get the point. http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

Your worst than a ESPN NBA writer LOL

Spurs and the Thunder Arguably have the best scouts in the NBA.... The Spurs have drafted so many Second round Players and have turned them into LEGITIMATE starters and Role Players... and BY STATS... they would have never signed Danny Green who actually has been a GREAT role player for the Spurs and fits their style of basketball... or Boris Diaw or Stephen Jackson LOL.,... basketball goes much deeper than advanced stats and percentages..... they only tell you what you make and what you miss but don't explain why or how or your basketball IQ

# 77 mpac @ 04/04/13 07:32 AM

Jeremy Lin still not A+ on IQ. this is madness!

Just kidding. Surprised all are fighting over ratings here. Calm down.

# 78 Letemburn @ 04/04/13 07:37 AM

Harmless has been playing great. He should have got a bump along with Vuc, and Harris. could argue oquinn should have got a small bump also.

# 79 zniv @ 04/04/13 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Letemburn


	Harmless has been playing great. He should have got a bump along with Vuc, and Harris. could argue oquinn should have got a small bump also.

Harkless literally just got bumped in the last update. O'Quinn is wildly inconsistent and has had 4 good games all season.

# 80 ksuttonjr76 @ 04/04/13 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cj2008nw


	Your worst than a ESPN NBA writer LOL Spurs and the Thunder Arguably have the best scouts in the NBA.... The Spurs have drafted so many Second round Players and have turned them into LEGITIMATE starters and Role Players... and BY STATS... they would have never signed Danny Green who actually has been a GREAT role player for the Spurs and fits their style of basketball... or Boris Diaw or Stephen Jackson LOL.,... basketball goes much deeper than advanced stats and percentages..... they only tell you what you make and what you miss but don't explain why or how or your basketball IQ

And you're worst than a politician. Answer my original question. Did the Miami Heat use scouts to determine Lerbron's worth before offering the near max contract to him?

Also, you're comparing apple to oranges when you're talking about college PROSPECTS moving up to the NBA level, and you're just trying to introduce something new to "prove" your point. We were discussing the NBA...NOT college athletes, but since you want to act like Mr. Know-It-All, lets go ahead and explore that.

First off and what I stated NUMEROUS times already, stats are not the be all end all to everything. Next, NBA stats are the END results of some sort of production, and can be used to a degree to measure basketball IQ. If you have PG A who's averaging 5 TOPG and 1 APG vs PG B who's averaging 5 TOPG and 11 APG, PG A better have some other talents to bring to the table before a coach lets him run the offense.

Scouts are used for college prospects, because COLLEGE stats are not an indication of how SUCCESSFUL a player can be in the NBA. Why? It's a DIFFERENT type of game, pace, mentality, and competition when compared to the college level. Also, contract conversations doesn't matter, because contracts are based on the position of where the player was drafted at. When a player is a rookie, his agent doesn't have any leverage to "negotiate" his contract. However, when a player's ROOKIE contract is over what do you think they're going to use to determine the amount of his next contract?

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