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Another NBA 2K13 roster update arrived this morning updating 14 players. Chandler Parsons and LaMarcus Aldridge had some of their ratings adjusted, but it didn't affect their overall rating.
  • J.R. Smith - New York Knicks +2 (84)
  • Iman Shumpert - New York Knicks +1 (81)
  • Jason Kidd - New York Knicks -1 (79)
  • Tobias Harris - Orlando Magic +7 (75)
  • Nikola Vucevic - Orlando Magic +5 (73)
  • Reggie Evans - Brooklyn Nets +3 (66)
  • Gerald Wallace - Brooklyn Nets -3 (74)
  • Mike Conley - Memphis Grizzlies +1 (83)
  • Tony Allen - Memphis Grizzlies -1 (75)
  • Steve Nash - Los Angeles Lakers -1 (82)
  • Jodie Meeks - Los Angeles Lakers +1 (69)
  • John Wall - Washington Wizards +3 (85)
Thomas Robinson for the Rockets is finally wearing #41. Thanks Rashidi.

Nothing else changed from the update that was released yesterday, which adjusted injured/recovered players.

To see the complete list of updates, make sure you visit The Real 2K Insider.

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# 41 JazzMan @ 04/03/13 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cj2008nw
I understand what your saying but you also have to add in the number of minutes and shot attempts if your going to use stats don't just throw out percentages because that's never really going to be that accurate and if 2k does have an Insider I think he should watch EVERY game and I catch enough Knicks games to see that Shumpert has improved since being back and I don't have a problem with him getting a boost in consistency
Who said we weren't accounting for minutes?

JR Smith is shooting a career-low of 30+ minutes and increased shot attempts. Therefore, he shouldn't have as high consistency that he has.

You may not have a problem with Shumpert getting bumped, but has he been a consistent shooter since his return?

Meanwhile, a guy like Enes Kanter is averaging 7.2 ppg and 4.3 rpg in 15 minutes. His rebounding ratings and midrange shot (which he is also improving) are way too low.

I'm not even going to comment on Hayward. That's just ridiculous. No excuse for not upgrading him. Refer to Streaky's post.
 
# 42 thedream2k13 @ 04/03/13 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LoSoisNiCEx414
James White is 69
Gordon Hayward 68

Im not even a Jazz fan but come on.
2k 101= overall doesn't matter
 
# 43 JazzMan @ 04/03/13 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by thedream2k13
2k 101= overall doesn't matter
It's not about overall. Please refer to Streaky's post, he summed it up nicely.
 
# 44 thedream2k13 @ 04/03/13 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cj2008nw
Basketball is not a stat based game
PER< league leaders< ppg
 
# 45 mango_prom @ 04/03/13 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cj2008nw
Basketball is not a stat based game
Actually, most team sports are. Especially basketball...but that's not the point. Why on earth does an inefficient volume scorer like J.R. Smith deserve a higher consistency rating than Chandler Parsons and John Wall?
I'm just asking because everyone knows that Smith is streaky as hell. So why should 2k improve his consistency if he's as inconsistent as always?
 
# 46 giftedchick @ 04/03/13 09:05 PM
in defence of jr.: he is second in command on the knicks(even though he comes off the bench) and he filled in nicely when melo was away.. he was asked to go out and be aggressive, and thats what he did

say what you want about his percentages.. .but he is having a career year in practically every category, and as mentioned before, a really GOOD candidate for 6th man
 
# 47 cj2008nw @ 04/03/13 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tyklug2013
Who said we weren't accounting for minutes?

JR Smith is shooting a career-low of 30+ minutes and increased shot attempts. Therefore, he shouldn't have as high consistency that he has.

You may not have a problem with Shumpert getting bumped, but has he been a consistent shooter since his return?

Meanwhile, a guy like Enes Kanter is averaging 7.2 ppg and 4.3 rpg in 15 minutes. His rebounding ratings and midrange shot (which he is also improving) are way too low.

I'm not even going to comment on Hayward. That's just ridiculous. No excuse for not upgrading him. Refer to Streaky's post.
I mean come on now beginning of the season they were considering JR Smith 6th man of the year... then he went into a slump... then Carmelo went out with an Injury and it was just him carrying the Knicks... and recently he has been a LITTLE more consistent...

Iman was not good when he first came back but recently he's been playing better

I don't see Kanter getting a boost until he gets significant minutes...

I agree with Gordon Haywood not being updated that is pretty crazy but the Jazz have been pretty bad this year and before they went on this 5 game winning streak they were playing AWFUL while being healthy...
 
# 48 cj2008nw @ 04/03/13 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mango_prom
Actually, most team sports are. Especially basketball...but that's not the point. Why on earth does an inefficient volume scorer like J.R. Smith deserve a higher consistency rating than Chandler Parsons and John Wall?
I'm just asking because everyone knows that Smith is streaky as hell. So why should 2k improve his consistency if he's as inconsistent as always?
Stats can't calculate hustle per possession and they can't calculate a players skill and ability it can only record makes or misses but nothing in between.. which is why I don't really like stats too much

and can you honestly say that Chandler Parson is better than JR Smith??
 
# 49 JazzMan @ 04/03/13 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cj2008nw
I mean come on now beginning of the season they were considering JR Smith 6th man of the year... then he went into a slump... then Carmelo went out with an Injury and it was just him carrying the Knicks... and recently he has been a LITTLE more consistent...

Iman was not good when he first came back but recently he's been playing better

I don't see Kanter getting a boost until he gets significant minutes...

I agree with Gordon Haywood not being updated that is pretty crazy but the Jazz have been pretty bad this year and before they went on this 5 game winning streak they were playing AWFUL while being healthy...
Regarding the Jazz, how does that come into effect with Hayward getting updated? They upgrade Magic players all the time, and they're terrible. Besides, Utah is a great team for how young they are. How have they been, "pretty bad?"

I don't think players should get increases if they are on a short hot streak. If they are playing well for a month or so, then upgrade him. A few games where a guy like JR is killin' it? I don't think so.
 
# 50 JazzMan @ 04/03/13 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cj2008nw
Stats can't calculate hustle per possession and they can't calculate a players skill and ability it can only record makes or misses but nothing in between.. which is why I don't really like stats too much

and can you honestly say that Chandler Parson is better than JR Smith??
Yes, I firmly believe Chandler Parsons is a better overall player than JR. JR is a scorer, Parsons is a much more efficient player on both sides of the court.
 
# 51 ksuttonjr76 @ 04/03/13 10:46 PM
I was trying to avoid this conversation, but know I feel like that I got to jump in.

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Originally Posted by cj2008nw
Basketball is not a stat based game.
I'm calling B.S. right now. Basketball IS a stat-based game. Period. There are some intangibles that can't be measured, but most of the NBA 2K ratings can be DIRECTLY linked to a basketball stat.

Anytime I read this comment, it's always someone who want to give out ratings based on "reputation" and "overall career" instead of the CURRENT season that the player is playing now.

When I examine the New York Knicks roster, Smith, Shumpert, Kidd, Martin, and Camby are more than likely overrated. However, I'll get to that in a moment.

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Originally Posted by thedream2k13
2k 101= overall doesn't matter
Wrong. Although overall doesn't matter in the big picture in user to user games, it is an EXCELLENT barometer to compare players at the same position. Personally, I find it INSANE that a player averaging 29.0 MPG, 14.2 PPG, 3.1 RPG, and 2.9 APG while shooting 43.3 FG% and 40.8 3PT% is ranked LOWER than someone who's averaging 6.5 MPG, 1.8 PPG, .7 RPG, and .4 APG while shooting 41.6 FG% and 33.3 3PT%. Come on, Son.
 
# 52 cj2008nw @ 04/03/13 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tyklug2013
Regarding the Jazz, how does that come into effect with Hayward getting updated? They upgrade Magic players all the time, and they're terrible. Besides, Utah is a great team for how young they are. How have they been, "pretty bad?"

I don't think players should get increases if they are on a short hot streak. If they are playing well for a month or so, then upgrade him. A few games where a guy like JR is killin' it? I don't think so.
JR Smith is having a Career Year I'm sorry I don't know why you don't like him
 
# 53 cj2008nw @ 04/03/13 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tyklug2013
Yes, I firmly believe Chandler Parsons is a better overall player than JR. JR is a scorer, Parsons is a much more efficient player on both sides of the court.
LMAO wow... JR Smith is a much better player than Chandler Parsons... I like Chandler Parsons game a lot but JR Smith is a MUCH better player than Chandler Parson... and if you think Chandler Parsons is better than Jr Smith because of Field goal percentage that's crazy... and Smith has a higher Efficiency rating than Parson LOL... I have yet to see Parson take over a game this year or be the first option offensively or even Second Option for the Rockets this season...
 
# 54 JazzMan @ 04/03/13 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cj2008nw
JR Smith is having a Career Year I'm sorry I don't know why you don't like him
Again, he's having a career year because of increased shot attempts and minutes. Percentage-wise, this is his worst season yet.

Sorry that I'm not a Knicks fan.
 
# 55 stillfeelme @ 04/03/13 11:13 PM
J.R. and consistency just don't go together lol. The insider needs help as in someone with access to Synergy sports. The rosters show that closed mouths don't get fed and it becomes a popularity contest. There are so many players that are not getting touched but they are far off. I think they need to outsource this to someone at Synergy or NBA.com at least most of the bias will be gone.
 
# 56 cj2008nw @ 04/03/13 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76
I was trying to avoid this conversation, but know I feel like that I got to jump in.



I'm calling B.S. right now. Basketball IS a stat-based game. Period. There are some intangibles that can't be measured, but most of the NBA 2K ratings can be DIRECTLY linked to a basketball stat.

Anytime I read this comment, it's always someone who want to give out ratings based on "reputation" and "overall career" instead of the CURRENT season that the player is playing now.

When I examine the New York Knicks roster, Smith, Shumpert, Kidd, Martin, and Camby are more than likely overrated. However, I'll get to that in a moment.
out of all the Knicks players you named the only player that is overrated is Camby and maybe Kidd.... and Kenyon Martin has been a good pick up for the Knicks this season

Basketball is not Baseball YOU CANT NOT JUDGE A PLAYER based on stats alone let alone ratings....

you have to look at how they are getting their points and what kind of offensive system they are running for a player and what scoring option they are on the roster
 
# 57 JazzMan @ 04/03/13 11:23 PM
The sad thing is that if Hayward was on either LA team, Knicks, Heat, Celtics, or OKC he'd be sitting at 80 right now.
 
# 58 cj2008nw @ 04/03/13 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tyklug2013
Again, he's having a career year because of increased shot attempts and minutes. Percentage-wise, this is his worst season yet.

Sorry that I'm not a Knicks fan.
LOL I'm not a Knicks fan either but i'm not going to down a player having a good season because he plays for a big market team and I'm guessing your team is in a small market smh ...

If you feel like your team and favorite players aren't being updated fine but don't bash Smith because the Insider isn't doing his job
 
# 59 ksuttonjr76 @ 04/03/13 11:33 PM
As for J.R. Smith...the first thought that comes to my mind is how is an one-dimensional offensive player rated higher than a well-rounded player like Paul George?

When I review his PER production at 82games.com, I can see that his defensive stats (DAWR, DEF, STL) are overrated. When Smith is playing SG, he's basically outscoring his opponent. When Smith is playing SF, his opponents are lighting him up offensively.

The Knicks have the 3rd highest ORTG, so Smith's high rebounding is more a product of the high number of available possessions. As a result, his DREB rating is too high as well.

Now, either Smith's MED rating is overrated or Paul George's MED is underrated. George is shooting 37% and Smith is shooting 40% since ASW, but there's a 10 point gap between the two. Lastly, his LAYUP and SIT ratings might be high too, since he's completing 66.7% of his driving layups.

In short, Smith's an athletic, scoring machine who has a good jumper who can explode for high number of points on any given night which makes Microwave a good signature skill to have for him. Other than that, I really didn't see too many other stats that wasn't too far-fetched for him.
 
# 60 JazzMan @ 04/03/13 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cj2008nw
LOL I'm not a Knicks fan either but i'm not going to down a player having a good season because he plays for a big market team and I'm guessing your team is in a small market smh ...

If you feel like your team and favorite players aren't being updated fine but don't bash Smith because the Insider isn't doing his job
I'm not downing him. He scores well, but he's inefficient. He's just average defensively, as well.

This isn't just a Jazz fan bashing on a big market team player. If anything, I think JR is a solid player, but should never be a number 1 option, which is what he is on 2k. I mean some kids will play 2k13 and jack up 25 shots with JR and only shoot like 4 or 5 times with 'Melo. That ain't right.

I'm guessing your team is a big market team, smh LOL
 


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