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Madden NFL 25 Developers Are Working On Implementing New NFL Rules

03:45 PM - March 26, 2013 by Steve_OS

As most of you already know, the NFL passed some new safety rules for the upcoming season. Game Informer has confirmed with EA Sports that the team will be implementing those rules in Madden NFL 25.

It should be interesting to see how well it works. Hopefully they work on pass interference penalties and penalties in general, while they are at it.

Thanks for the heads up TracerBullet36!

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# 41 sportjames23 @ 03/27/13 05:58 PM

In before--

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Originally Posted by tfctillidie


	So lets add new rules while the existing ones aren't there or are, but broken? Why does Madden always add layers to the house without stabilizing it's foundation? How many times have they said that to us, "we need to rip out the old broken code and do it again...blah blah" What's going to trigger this, truck sticking? Ugh.

oops, too late.

# 42 SageInfinite @ 03/27/13 06:00 PM

Honestly I don't think any of us(those not already pleased with Madden) should be excited or hopeful until we see what they're planning for next gen. This gen was almost a complete waste and I can't see Madden 25 turning that all around. Once I see what they have set up for next gen(in reality not target renders) I can draw some kind of conclusion on where Madden is headed and how excited I should be. I almost just want to skip right into the next gen, I'm so sick of what we've gotten thus far.

# 43 roadman @ 03/27/13 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SageInfinite


	Honestly I don't think any of us(those not already pleased with Madden) should be excited or hopeful until we see what they're planning for next gen. This gen was almost a complete waste and I can't see Madden 25 turning that all around. Once I see what they have set up for next gen(in reality not target renders) I can draw some kind of conclusion on where Madden is headed and how excited I should be. I almost just want to skip right into the next gen, I'm so sick of what we've gotten thus far.

I understand your frustation, but I feel if they add some realistic stuff to the table in Madden 25 and it works, then maybe the future on NG will be brighter.

We'll be finding out shortly.

# 44 splff3000 @ 03/27/13 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal


	My main interest in M25 for these consoles stems from my hope that whatever is in that, will be implemented better for M25 on G4 consoles, if there is one.

Please for the love of all that's good man, stop saying G4 consoles lol. Some of us old heads know that the next gen of consoles will be more like G6 or G7 of consoles lol.

Now on to the topic at hand. Let's look at each new rule implemented:

- Removal of the Tuck Rule - Since the tuck rule wasn't in the game in the first place, this has no bearing on this years Madden.

- Peel Back Blocks are Now Illegal - Note: They were illegal outside the tackle box before, but now they are illegal everywhere on the field. Once again, Madden didn't have peel back blocks in it outside of kick returns, so this does not affect the game. FYI - peel back block is when a player is facing his own goal line and blocks a defender, kinda like those blind side hits you see on kick returns.

- Video Review is Now Allowed When a Coach Throws a Challenge Flag Illegally - Once again, in Madden you are not allowed to throw the challenge flag except when it is warranted. You have no opportunity to throw a flag on a automatic review. This rule, has no bearing on Madden.

- RB's Can Not Lead With the Crown of Their Helmet in the Open Field - This will be interesting to see how they implement it because this would make pressing up on the right stick(lowering your head) useless because it would be a penalty. I guess EA could make it a risk/reward thing were you could lower and get more yards at the risk of getting a penalty, but I highly doubt the NFL would allow them to have players lowering their head without a penalty, especially with all the attention this rule has got.

- TE's and HB's Can Now Wear No's 40-49 - I can honestly say that this is really the only new rule that I am confident that EA can get into the game right lol. Basically because it requires very little new programming lol.

Looking at each individual rule, I agree with the poster that said that this is all about marketing. Most of the rule changes applied to rules that either weren't in Madden to begin with or are not possible in Madden anyway. Now it's totally possible that Madden will add new animations to add these rules into the game, but, looking at their past track record, I highly doubt that will happen.

Having said that, I do believe that they ARE working on the existing penalties as well for Madden 25. I have been playing Madden for a long time and one thing I know, is that they wouldn't be putting real refs in the game without some kind of focus penalties. Will it be enough or will they get it right? I don't know, but I know there will be some kind of focus on them. As for this story here? purely marketing. Marketing for the NFL and their rule change and marketing for Madden and how it's got the "rule changes" in the game.

All you guys getting all worked up about this stuff. Relax. One thing you should know by now is don't believe anything you see or read until you see it in the vids that will be taken during E3.

# 45 RGiles36 @ 03/27/13 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by splff3000


	- RB's Can Not Lead With the Crown of Their Helmet in the Open Field - This will be interesting to see how they implement it because *this would make pressing up on the right stick(lowering your head) useless because it would be a penalty.* I guess EA could make it a risk/reward thing were you could lower and get more yards at the risk of getting a penalty, but I highly doubt the NFL would allow them to have players lowering their head without a penalty, especially with all the attention this rule has got.

I think the impact of the rule is being vastly overstated here, Splff. You can still lower your head and truck -- you just can't "gore" through an opponent with the very top (crown) of the head which I'm certain was never in Madden to begin with.

The only impact I could possibly see in Madden in regard to this rule is possibly tweaking the truck animation a smidge so that it's even more apparent that the player isn't leading w/ the crown. Other than that, much to do about nothing.

# 46 JayD @ 03/27/13 09:59 PM

I wonder when we will see the National Flag Football League, sheesh.

# 47 SickDL @ 03/27/13 11:40 PM

LoL okey. Now only holding gets called. So nothing would really change. Only that we have a few more penalty sliders that wont work.
But you never know ofcourse. Gonne have to see when 25 drops if ea made some improvements i. The penalty department

# 48 tbook24 @ 03/29/13 05:16 PM

so that means no tuck rule which have really seen in the game. but that will take the truck stick away pretty much since you cant lower the head in the open field. look for more injuries for running backs or more stepping out of bounds to avoid contact

# 49 JaySwizzlez @ 03/29/13 09:30 PM

Excuse me, but they don't even have all of the current rules/penalties implemented...

# 50 PantherBeast_OS @ 03/30/13 01:06 AM

My overall view of these rules is that it want matter. Unless EA balance on the rules and make them work properly in Madden25 for once in their life. These new rules want make much of a difference at this point. I mean it will be interesting to see if the old rules get fixed in madden this year. It would be a big plus for Madden moving forward. But if it is the same old crap. Then it want matter much. Let's see if EA will make some changes for the common good for Madden this year and moving forward in the next Gen Consoles. I hope it works out will.

# 51 DarkOmnios @ 03/30/13 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Legend Killer


	My overall view of these rules is that it want matter. Unless EA balance on the rules and make them work properly in Madden25 for once in their life. These new rules want make much of a difference at this point. I mean it will be interesting to see if the old rules get fixed in madden this year. It would be a big plus for Madden moving forward. But if it is the same old crap. Then it want matter much. Let's see if EA will make some changes for the common good for Madden this year and moving forward in the next Gen Consoles. I hope it works out will.

8 years and they still cant make that right....i would love to see them to make it right, but I honestly dont believe that....

# 52 KBLover @ 03/30/13 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbob


	Good thing we don't have a truck stick, or else the running back rule would probably get over-called.

...Don't we have a trucking move?

I mean, when I push up the R-stick, my halfback lowers himself and tries to power forward.

I think it's a legitimate concern you bring up.

# 53 SageInfinite @ 03/30/13 06:35 PM

In Madden 13 runners automatically lower their head, maybe this year they can make it a penalty if you hold the right stick and run directly into someone. Who knows how they will make it work with these devs.

# 54 Sausage @ 03/31/13 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SageInfinite


	In Madden 13 runners automatically lower their head, maybe this year they can make it a penalty if you hold the right stick and run directly into someone. Who knows how they will make it work with these devs.

I am very curious on how they will suture and band aid this in the game.

# 55 tfctillidie @ 03/31/13 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by slick589


	Did EA really say that? Just more proof we need a true NFL simulation not some arcade bs.

Ian Cummings used to say that, along with "Madden players don't want to play full games, or have "mistakes" (like dropped snaps, this was being discussed here with Ian shortly after the Romo XP drop in the playoffs).

This is why I was thrilled to see that whole group of developers leave, they didn't want the Madden I want.

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Originally Posted by splff3000


	- TE's and HB's Can Now Wear No's 40-49 - I can honestly say that this is really the only new rule that I am confident that EA can get into the game right lol. Basically because it requires very little new programming lol.

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Via player edit you can assign any number to any player as it is right now in M13. So you could already do this, however you can also assign illegal numbers too and it doesn't matter. lol

# 56 KBLover @ 03/31/13 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tfctillidie


	' Via player edit you can assign any number to any player as it is right now in M13. So you could already do this, however you can also assign illegal numbers too and it doesn't matter. lol

Yeah, in my last CCM game, the CPU had a #00 on defense and I was like WTF, it was just their DT.

Also seen guys on the CPU teams with 00 as well, usually linebackers but this time it was a DT.

Edit: I notice LBs seems to have the most numbering issues - I guess since there are usually quite a few and the DL usually gets 90's along with LBs, so the numbers are used up fast.

# 57 splff3000 @ 04/01/13 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tfctillidie


	Ian Cummings used to say that, along with "Madden players don't want to play full games, or have "mistakes" (like dropped snaps, this was being discussed here with Ian shortly after the Romo XP drop in the playoffs). This is why I was thrilled to see that whole group of developers leave, they didn't want the Madden I want. ' Via player edit you can assign any number to any player as it is right now in M13. So you could already do this, however you can also assign illegal numbers too and it doesn't matter. lol

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Originally Posted by KBLover


	Yeah, in my last CCM game, the CPU had a #00 on defense and I was like WTF, it was just their DT. Also seen guys on the CPU teams with 00 as well, usually linebackers but this time it was a DT. Edit: I notice LBs seems to have the most numbering issues - I guess since there are usually quite a few and the DL usually gets 90's along with LBs, so the numbers are used up fast.

Lol, well hell, I don't see anything new that EA can add from these new rules lol. I guess the marketing worked tho. It's April and we're here talking about Madden and NFL rules.

# 58 JerzeyReign @ 04/01/13 01:01 AM

Like others, I just wish they got the other penalties to work first. I wouldn't care if the number of penalties that were going to happen were a random predetermined number. While the game is loading I wouldn't care if the game decided I would get 8 penalties during the game as long as they were randomized and looked legit while playing. Something is better than nothing.

# 59 TreFacTor @ 04/02/13 07:59 AM

I don't like repeating myself so I'll just quote myself --->

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...legal+touching
10-25-2012

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Originally Posted by SloeyEZ


	I'll admit it, I yelled out loud when I first ha this called because I saw my WR step out of bounds and then come back in and catch it. THEN, the Illegal Touch was called and I was like... way...to...go. P.S. Who's the grinch going around giving threads a single star rating? I mean, yeah, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but just feels like someone gets their jollies by giving threads single stars...

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Originally Posted by TreFacTor


	I gave this one a single star vote... 1- it's been posted already (ages ago) 2- *I can't believe people are praising the game for getting this penalty right when it's missing so many others* 3-It's a football rule that should be in a football game...I mean BackBreaker has it. 4-

When this post was originally created, I stayed away because I could tell what the reaction was going to be (at least my reaction)...laughable. No this isn't big news and many are simply hungry for any news at all, but really at this stage of the game if we're talking up penalty corrections and implementation of new rules, then Madden truly is a lost cause.

You know what would have impressed me about this news? If it somehow indicated that there would be smarter penalties in the game. Penalties are a huge part of real football. It's a strategy for some players and a useful tool for others. A smart player would rather get a penalty than get beat on a play, and the more cunning players use the rules to their advantage and ride the thin lines between skill, happenstance, and opportunity. Will Madden ever scrape that level of depth? I don't think it's even on their radar.

# 60 theawesomeone @ 04/05/13 02:46 PM

Well, they've still barely added unnecessary roughness, and haven't added late hit, kicking, all that kind of stuff, so if you're going to add new rules put the ones that have been here for a long time in it to, please.

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