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Odds are we will see a new MLB 13 The Show roster update before the game ships on March 5th, but thanks to chrisjohnson83, the current list of free agents in the game can be seen right here.

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# 21 AUTiger1 @ 02/26/13 09:57 PM
Michael Bourn is not a 91 rating player. Way too high. He should at the most be an 85 or 86.
 
# 22 theaub @ 02/26/13 10:48 PM
Weird that Joel Carreno is a FA when he's never left the Jays system...
 
# 23 JayD @ 02/26/13 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AUTiger1
Michael Bourn is not a 91 rating player. Way too high. He should at the most be an 85 or 86.
Really? He's fast, outstanding outfielder, consistent hitter and he's one of the best lead off hitters and a good all round player. I can see why they rated him a 91
 
# 24 JayD @ 02/26/13 10:51 PM
If he is still a free agent looks like I'll probably sign Scott Rolen to fill the hole at third for the Braves post Chipper. That will give me a year or two for some of the younger guys to develop or acquire a third baseman via trade, draft, or free agency.
 
# 25 Baseballking888 @ 02/26/13 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by theaub
Weird that Joel Carreno is a FA when he's never left the Jays system...
I remember SCEA did this with previous roster updates in the past. I believe this has something to do with 40 man rosters on teams being full, but I could be wrong on this.
 
# 26 Simple Mathematics @ 02/26/13 11:03 PM
Why are the overalls so inflated???? Contreras an 85? Wow.
 
# 27 AUTiger1 @ 02/26/13 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JayD
Really? He's fast, outstanding outfielder, consistent hitter and he's one of the best lead off hitters and a good all round player. I can see why they rated him a 91
Consistent hitter? In the first half of last season he was God offensive and the 2nd half he was one of the worst hitters in baseball. He's not that good of a hitter overall and 150 plus strikeouts as a leadoff hitter with few walks is not a good leadoff hitter. He's a career .272 hitter. That really screams great leadoff hitter. I'm one of the few Braves fans that wanted no part of re-signing Bourn and I'm so glad he's gone.
 
# 28 JayD @ 02/26/13 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AUTiger1
Consistent hitter? In the first half of last season he was God offensive and the 2nd half he was one of the worst hitters in baseball. He's not that good of a hitter overall and 150 plus strikeouts as a leadoff hitter with few walks is not a good leadoff hitter. He's a career .272 hitter. That really screams great leadoff hitter. I'm one of the few Braves fans that wanted no part of re-signing Bourn and I'm so glad he's gone.
maybe consistent wasn't the right word to use. I really do think he is one of the better lead off hitters though I do agree with you that I am happy we didn't re sign him and save a huge salary.
 
# 29 BeatArmy @ 02/27/13 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Simple Mathematics
Why are the overalls so inflated???? Contreras an 85? Wow.
And so, those of us who dislike ratings numbers instead of bars, we present a thread full of our evidence as to why.
 
# 30 tbonepickens @ 02/27/13 12:46 PM
I have always hated the free agent menus. I wish they were improved. Maybe so you could sort be certain skills.
 
# 31 geisterhome @ 02/27/13 04:25 PM
So it's the average performance of the last 3 years and the last year weights more right?

Roy Oswalts ERA the last 3 seasons:
2010: 2.76
2011: 3.69
2012: 5.80

So thats a 90 rating, considering 2012 is the most important? Maybe if 2010 was but how can they rate him that high, considering his ERA in 2012? Doesn't have Johnny Cueto have an 85 rating or smth?

And since Oswalts health is an issue how will it be when I sign him, how high is the chance he'll end up being on the DL most of the time?
 
# 32 slickkill77 @ 02/27/13 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatArmy
And so, those of us who dislike ratings numbers instead of bars, we present a thread full of our evidence as to why.
They would be the same rating regardless. Bar vs Numbers makes no difference. The overall player ratings are inflated horribly. They need to just scrap them completely or go to the scouting scale (20-80)
 
# 33 nomo17k @ 02/28/13 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by geisterhome
So it's the average performance of the last 3 years and the last year weights more right?

Roy Oswalts ERA the last 3 seasons:
2010: 2.76
2011: 3.69
2012: 5.80

So thats a 90 rating, considering 2012 is the most important? Maybe if 2010 was but how can they rate him that high, considering his ERA in 2012? Doesn't have Johnny Cueto have an 85 rating or smth?

And since Oswalts health is an issue how will it be when I sign him, how high is the chance he'll end up being on the DL most of the time?
ERA is not the best stats to evaluate the pitcher's effectiveness, and it also is a vague indicator of pitchers' specific abilities, so the games like this tend not to use them to rate players.

In Oswalts case, he probably is still rated highly due to the very limited playing time he had in 2012 (i.e., higher weighting 2012 is overshadowed by his effective 2010 season, etc...)
 
# 34 ondreythegiant @ 02/28/13 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by AUTiger1
Consistent hitter? In the first half of last season he was God offensive and the 2nd half he was one of the worst hitters in baseball. He's not that good of a hitter overall and 150 plus strikeouts as a leadoff hitter with few walks is not a good leadoff hitter. He's a career .272 hitter. That really screams great leadoff hitter. I'm one of the few Braves fans that wanted no part of re-signing Bourn and I'm so glad he's gone.
He finished last year with a .283 and is a gold glove outfielder who led the NL in stolen bases the last 4 years. Sure he strikes out alot, but that won't deflate his rating. BTW, .272 isn't that terrible post-steroid era. He's a prototypical leadoff hitter and centerfielder.
 
# 35 geisterhome @ 02/28/13 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by nomo17k
ERA is not the best stats to evaluate the pitcher's effectiveness, and it also is a vague indicator of pitchers' specific abilities, so the games like this tend not to use them to rate players.

In Oswalts case, he probably is still rated highly due to the very limited playing time he had in 2012 (i.e., higher weighting 2012 is overshadowed by his effective 2010 season, etc...)
I actually took a look at his other stats and they weren't all that amazing either But i get what you mean and yea I guess that's how he got a 90 rating.

Anyways, lets say if I decide to sign Roy Oswald am I at least at a high risk that he'll sustain some injuries/fatigue over the course of the season? With other words is there a rating that determines how injury prone a player is and does it work well to replicate the risk you would have in real life when signing a pitcher with a good share of injury problems in the past, or do I have a good chance that I'll get ace like 200+ innigs from a pitcher like Oswalt?
 
# 36 nomo17k @ 02/28/13 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by geisterhome
I actually took a look at his other stats and they weren't all that amazing either But i get what you mean and yea I guess that's how he got a 90 rating.

Anyways, lets say if I decide to sign Roy Oswald am I at least at a high risk that he'll sustain some injuries/fatigue over the course of the season? With other words is there a rating that determines how injury prone a player is and does it work well to replicate the risk you would have in real life when signing a pitcher with a good share of injury problems in the past, or do I have a good chance that I'll get ace like 200+ innigs from a pitcher like Oswalt?
I think the injury frequency is tied to Durability rating (which is a major factor in fatigue therefore playing time....) so it depends on his rating there.

I still think rating this kind of players can improve, to better reflect the real life increase/decline in recent years.... haha
 
# 37 ShowTyme15 @ 02/28/13 12:03 PM
The only issue I see with the list(other than the players that should be on teams which is an easy fix)is Micah Owings is no longer a pitcher he is now a first baseman in the Nationals organization. The guy can rake too.
 
# 38 Dr.Livingdead @ 02/28/13 12:09 PM
I don't see the issue with players like Oswalt and Contreras rated high. I bet its because their gonna drop off real quick and wont be any good in a year or two anyway
 
# 39 Dr.Livingdead @ 02/28/13 12:19 PM
As for Bourn, hes got great speed and defense, that matters too. Offense isnt the only thing that the overall shows.
 
# 40 geisterhome @ 03/01/13 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by nomo17k
I think the injury frequency is tied to Durability rating (which is a major factor in fatigue therefore playing time....) so it depends on his rating there.

I still think rating this kind of players can improve, to better reflect the real life increase/decline in recent years.... haha
I'm not sure if it works in the game but in MLB 12 I signed Joel Zumaya for example and there should be a really high risk of him ending up on the DL pretty soon and him staying there a while as well. I think in real life he threw a bullpen session with the Twins last year and didn't return after that. However in my Franchise in MLB 12 he has been healthy, effective and somewhat durable so far, but thats a small sample size. But does the game simulate guys like Zumaya well in the sense of them being at high risk of injury and possible following ineffectiveness?
 


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