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Madden NFL 13 Title Update #2 Arrives Tomorrow, Player Editing Still Being Explored

04:06 PM - September 10, 2012 by ABR173rd

Madden NFL 13 title update #2 arrives tomorrow, which includes a new instant start option when creating a player in CCM. The team has also fixed numerous stability issues and GameFace improvements.

While the team hasn't added the ability to edit players in CCM, they still haven't shot down the idea completely, in hopes to have it available in a future patch.

More details below.

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	Madden NFL 13 Title Update #2 will be available tomorrow on the Xbox 360 & PS3. The update includes a new instant start option when creating your player in Connected Careers, numerous stability fixes, and GameFace improvements. We�d also like to remind fans who have been asking about the ability to edit players and rosters in Connected Careers that based on your feedback, the development team is currently exploring the potential option to include additional functionality in Madden NFL 13 in an upcoming title update. We�ll update you with more information in the coming weeks after the team has time to investigate and assess the situation.

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# 101 kehlis @ 09/10/12 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EmmdotFrisk


	Because Franchise mode is almost 10 years old. While franchise mode is good, the plan for Connected Careers is great. This is Connected Careers first year and we will continue to improve upon it year after year.

I get that and can live with it.

What I don't understand is why the old franchise mode wasn't just left in like they did with NHL?

# 102 Airdrop01 @ 09/10/12 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EmmdotFrisk


	Because Franchise mode is almost 10 years old. While franchise mode is good, the plan for Connected Careers is great. This is Connected Careers first year and we will continue to improve upon it year after year.

How could something like no fantasy draft, or no editing of uniform numbers even (not even getting to ratings!) be removed without realizing this gets you multiple players with the same number on the field?

Well, at least there's "game face," an invaluable feature for a game played from behind the player with a helmet and visor covering the face.

# 103 Old Mr T @ 09/10/12 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by StanleyStutters


	Agreed. Now I know absolutely nothing about making video games, but if we can have two controllers on one profile in Play Now how is it impossible for us to do that in CCM? I can understand not having two profiles in CCM on the same console, but I just don't understand what the difference is between CCM and Play Now when it comes to on-field gameplay. I'm glad to see they are looking into adding some form of editing for us. Since they didn't mention couch co-op I think it's safe to say we won't see it until M14 at the earliest.

Whilst I'm happy that they're addressing (potentially) some of the removed features, from a selfish perspective I'm really upset not to see mention of co-op CCM.

This most basic of core gameplay modes, which exists in every other team-based sports title made over the last 15+ years, should definitely be included, and the fact that we're waiting to receive patch info about this is really poor.

# 104 DJ @ 09/10/12 07:07 PM

Will there be a full listing of what was addressed in this patch when it is released tomorrow?

I may be trading one headache (Madden) for another (NHL) if some of the things in Offline CCM aren't corrected and the CPU playcalling isn't addressed.

# 105 Airdrop01 @ 09/10/12 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bucky60


	I guess this depends on what you want in an NFL Licensed Video game. I'm not buying 13, and I'm keeping 12. I really liked the PC version of Head Coach, which would be the first year, the second it only came out on the consoles. And I like the idea of Head Coach like features moving to Madden. But their are definitely many things I don't like about 13. If this CCM gets significant refinements and enhancements going into 14, even I can see 14 being much better than 12. If you care to take this to PM's, I can give you what I don't like about 13. I don't want to do it here cause tt really doesn't belong in this thread.

I've went out and bought 12 again for the franchise. The truest thing I ever read from these boards is when someone from EA slipped up and called this a "reboot" year. Of course, that wasn't said before they got the money.

# 106 roadman @ 09/10/12 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ


	Will there be a full listing of what was addressed in this patch when it is released tomorrow? I may be trading one headache (Madden) for another (NHL) if some of the things in Offline CCM aren't corrected and the CPU playcalling isn't addressed.

It should be listed tomorrow, but I'm not sure if I would expect those issues to be address a few weeks after launch.

We'll see.

# 107 chargersfan21 @ 09/10/12 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewiel


	We can agree to disagree. It's not worth your time or mine to argue this point. I sit in the room and hear the feedback. They're not yes men. These guys just provide the feedback in a constructive way. Any one who looks at Madden 12 compared to Madden 13 can see the improvements. Those guys have played a role in that. Sure, they were just as disappointed by some things not being in, but they also understand where we're going.

As appreciated as the time you take to check here and post is, the developers have to get that, regardless of surface improvements such as presentation, the present game is not yet superior to Madden 12.

When you have a problem like the computer struggling to this level in the run game, from a football basics standpoint the game is a failure. An NFL offense can run the ball or pass it. A current CCM - this year's big new feature -Madden offense can do only half of that. The computer consistently rushing for 20 attempts for 40 yards, for example, or the Packers running the ball 40 times and throwing 10 - both documented problems - kill the game. When that much strategy is removed, without the ability to fix it via currently ineffective sliders, what's the point?

I agree that a fix in the first patch would be unrealistic, but a fix this year isn't. This problem is so blatantly obvious yet apparently never noticed and at least thus far left unaddressed. IMO, that's the most frustrating point.

# 108 DJ @ 09/10/12 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	It should be listed tomorrow, but I'm not sure if I would expect those issues to be address a few weeks after launch. We'll see.

Oh man, at the very least I hope the Offline CCM is fixed with the XP points, depth charts, auto subs, etc. I really don't want to have to play Online CCM and be subjected to playing on the EA servers.

Maybe one of these days I'll wise up and wait until the patches are out before I buy these games. It's getting ridiculous that I buy these games at launch and then wind up having to wait 3-4 months before the game is fully operational. By that time, I've grown tired of the bugs/issues, and have moved on.

I try not to overly dissect these games and enjoy them for what they are but at the same time, when core issues are shipped out with the game and then not addressed in the first patch, I have to wonder what exactly is going on? If this stuff is being caught by members of this site within 48 hours of release, why isn't it being caught during testing?

Madden 13 can be a fun game and I see the potential, but I'd be lying if I wasn't very frustrated with the number of issues the game currently has.

# 109 Hades71 @ 09/10/12 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Airdrop01


	I've went out and bought 12 again for the franchise. The truest thing I ever read from these boards is when someone from EA slipped up and called this a "reboot" year. Of course, that wasn't said before they got the money.

They overhauled the entire game, how would you not know it was a reboot year? Of course not all features will make it in year one. SMFH

# 110 mrprice33 @ 09/10/12 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by slappybrown


	The revisionist history around here that franchise mode in 12 (or 11, or 10) was this great mode is laughable. This series dreadfully needed to evolve and CCM is a steP in the right direction. It unquestionably needs work, but come on. Madden franchise has been bad on this gen console since inception.

This x 1000. People were MAD when 12 released with no improvements to franchise.

# 111 NYwRiter94 @ 09/10/12 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mrprice33


	This x 1000. People were MAD when 12 released with no improvements to franchise.

While I prefer CCM to Franchise Mode, that is factually incorrect:

Expanded Rosters
UDFAs
Cut Days
Free Agency Bidding
New Scouting System

Now I'm not saying that these things were perfect, but Madden 12 did attempt to make changes to Franchise. People complained about those changes just like they're complaining about these.

# 112 WhiteMan22 @ 09/10/12 07:28 PM

Finally. The rosters I have been waiting for. Finally, I can start my Connected Career.

# 113 prey2god @ 09/10/12 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mrprice33


	This x 1000. People were MAD when 12 released with no improvements to franchise.

Understandably mad. But this is a whole new level of mad. They took out stuff that we used in the game.

In Madden 12, it was just the same old bug and glitch complaints ie., robo qb still in effect, assisted tackles still after a few years of complaints, not adding up, play action was broken, etc.

It's like taking a chocolate cake away from a fat kid and giving him a carrot. You just don't do that. You got to work your way to that carrot.

EA is grabbing on a bunch of tiger's tails thinking they're not going to strike back.

# 114 B-Lo-Z-Ro @ 09/10/12 07:28 PM

can we get bryant mcfadden in the free agents? & what happened to Greg Jones's picture? (FB Jaguars)

# 115 KingV2k3 @ 09/10/12 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EmmdotFrisk


	We are extremely motivated to address all uncovered issues. What bugs are bothering you the most?

Easy:

I know it's a roster / rating issue, but how about rating the FA's properly so in CCM McNabb doesn't end up starting for either the Browns or Seahawks?

Normal:

Have the CPU run / pass ratios reflect the current NFL (may as well clean up that sim stat engine, while you're at it)

Hard:

Smarter playcalling by CPU, esp. with regard to down / distance / time remaining

Thanks for participating, it's really encouraging to see you guys pop in...

Regards!

EDIT: It just occurred to me that I could have fixed the first 2 of 3 myself if player editing and 32 team control still existed...

Which is EXACTLY what I've done EVERY YEAR for the past decade or so...

Yikes!

# 116 Armor and Sword @ 09/10/12 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ


	Oh man, at the very least I hope the Offline CCM is fixed with the XP points, depth charts, auto subs, etc. I really don't want to have to play Online CCM and be subjected to playing on the EA servers. Maybe one of these days I'll wise up and wait until the patches are out before I buy these games. It's getting ridiculous that I buy these games at launch and then wind up having to wait 3-4 months before the game is fully operational. By that time, I've grown tired of the bugs/issues, and have moved on. I try not to overly dissect these games and enjoy them for what they are but at the same time, when core issues are shipped out with the game and then not addressed in the first patch, I have to wonder what exactly is going on? If this stuff is being caught by members of this site within 48 hours of release, why isn't it being caught during testing? Madden 13 can be a fun game and I see the potential, but I'd be lying if I wasn't very frustrated with the number of issues the game currently has.

That is why I bought it for 44.99 on Toys r Us online. I knew from the past what the future would be.

So I am waiting and by patch 2 (October) things should be ready to go offline. In the meantime I canceled my NHL pre-order. Lack of penalties is unacceptable. I will again stick with the great NHL 11.

DJ...just fool around with play now games, poke around CCM to get familar with all the features and menus....then before you know it the game will function properly.

Dive deep into NCAA 13 and The Show 12 till then!

Madden 13 is a great game under the hood and just needs some TLC with a couple of strong patches. Play now is a ton of fun.

I was initially appalled that the game shipped in this state for offline gamers. I have calmed down......played the game in play now mode and have really come to enjoy the heck out of it.

If EA does not come through on the patches......they will lose me as a client....for a long time.

# 117 splff3000 @ 09/10/12 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tazdevil20


	Also, let's not forget the face of the gamechangers for Madden. SGibs and ZFarls (nothing personal), but they are admitted tourney type/glitch players. They profit by writing strategy guides that tell you how to simply win at Madden, completely disregarding "football", yet you are touting this as a true simulation game. Come on now...

I have been wondering about this myself. How the hell are we supposed to ever get a true sim game when you have known tourney guys giving input into the game?

# 118 atc43 @ 09/10/12 07:30 PM

I buy a game in August and have to wait 3 months to enjoy it

Just to Help you out Tiburon!

Number of stars indicates Level of Importance!

CPU AI & RUN GAME***********

Player Edits***********

WORKING SLIDERS*********

Assisted Tackles*****

GAMEFACE

Like someone else said, I find it extremely hard to believe that they werent aware of the flaws in the game before release! In that case they should have fixes already lined up for the first patch, not whats been told to us today!

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In fact I pray it is the above! Because if Tiburon programmers/game testers arent able to detect flaws in their own game we will never, i repeat,NEVER, get the game we want and deserve from EA.

I dont hate Madden I Have M13 and I like it to an extent but some of things that Tiburon does leaves me scratching my head

# 119 atc43 @ 09/10/12 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ


	Oh man, at the very least I hope the Offline CCM is fixed with the XP points, depth charts, auto subs, etc. I really don't want to have to play Online CCM and be subjected to playing on the EA servers. Maybe one of these days I'll wise up and wait until the patches are out before I buy these games. It's getting ridiculous that I buy these games at launch and then wind up having to wait 3-4 months before the game is fully operational. By that time, I've grown tired of the bugs/issues, and have moved on. I try not to overly dissect these games and enjoy them for what they are but at the same time, when core issues are shipped out with the game and then not addressed in the first patch, I have to wonder what exactly is going on? If this stuff is being caught by members of this site within 48 hours of release, why isn't it being caught during testing? Madden 13 can be a fun game and I see the potential, but I'd be lying if I wasn't very frustrated with the number of issues the game currently has.

# 120 jtott @ 09/10/12 07:36 PM

I really hope the camera issues in CCM have been fixed. I can tolerate all the other issues for a little whle longer if I have to ....... I just need my Broadcast camera fixed

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