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Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

10:30 AM - August 3, 2012 by Steve_OS

EA Sports has just released the complete Madden NFL 13 ratings for every quarterback in the game.

For the complete Madden NFL 13 quarterback ratings, click here.

The ratings category winners in Speed, Throw Power, Deep Throw Accuracy, and Awareness will be reflected in the week one Madden NFL 13 roster update.

Just a few notable ratings.

Ryan 89, Cam 89, Schaub 89, Flacco 88, Cutler 87, Hasselbeck 85, Luck 84, Palmer 84, Dalton 83, Smith 83
RGIII rated 83 with 93 speed.
Sanchez overall 80, Tebow 77.
RGIII, Vick and Pryor are the fastest QB's in Madden NFL 13. Next 5 are Josh Johnson, Tyrod Taylor, Joe Webb, Cam Newton, Vince Young.
Top 10 QB Throwing Power. Stafford, Cutler, Mallett, Vick, Newton, Rodgers, Freeman, Osweiler, Skelton, Brady.
Top 12 QB Accuracy. Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Rivers, Eli, Peyton, Schaub, Stafford, Big Ben, Luck, Romo, Ryan.

What are your thoughts on the QB ratings?

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# 141 rudyjuly2 @ 08/05/12 07:48 AM

I was fairly disappointed in the QB ratings when released. My confidence in Donny Moore certainly took a hit. Andrew Luck isn't known for a strong arm and yet he has a 93 THP? Rivers arm is weak and 88 is too high for him imo. Peyton Manning has the same arm strength as his brother despite every report out there saying his arm strength is really down right now and that college kids were throwing the ball 15-20 yards downfield further than him at his passing camp.

I won't rehash all the deep ball arguments as I agree with many in this thread - they are just done poorly. I know one poster a while back had stated he had talked to Donny Moore on a conference call and he didn't use many stats or metrics to come up with his stuff but rather relied on opinion. That's not good enough when you take away our ability to edit the ratings for CCM.

I am curious to see if we will be able to find a roster workaround for the game. With NBA Live 10 rosters we were able to sneak rosters from one file to the next through USB saves by copying and pasting the roster data but keeping the profile name the same. I wonder if we edited the rosters but then copied the roster data over to an official EA roster file if we would be able to cheat the system and do this? Maybe EA has blocked this or it's not possible in Madden but I'd like to see if it's possible.

# 142 splff3000 @ 08/05/12 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rudyjuly2


	I was fairly disappointed in the QB ratings when released. My confidence in Donny Moore certainly took a hit. Andrew Luck isn't known for a strong arm and yet he has a 93 THP? Rivers arm is weak and 88 is too high for him imo. Peyton Manning has the same arm strength as his brother despite every report out there saying his arm strength is really down right now and that college kids were throwing the ball 15-20 yards downfield further than him at his passing camp. I won't rehash all the deep ball arguments as I agree with many in this thread - they are just done poorly. I know one poster a while back had stated he had talked to Donny Moore on a conference call and he didn't use many stats or metrics to come up with his stuff but rather relied on opinion. That's not good enough when you take away our ability to edit the ratings for CCM.

I agree whole heartedly with this. I have never edited player ratings ( you can't in online franchise) nor do I intend to, but when you take the power to edit ratings away from the people that DO like to do that, you have to do better than this. Some of these ratings are quite atrocious. I'm sitting here scratching my head, trying to figure out how he came up with some of these ratings. I mean how in the hell is Josh Freeman and RG3 gonna have a better DAC than Brees? How in the hell is Cam Newton's DAC 75? I have a few other gripes as well, but these 2 are my biggest. The only thing I can think is that he was busy working on Madden 13 on Sundays and didn't get a chance to actually see these guys play. I've tried to come up with some other explanation, but nothing else fits. I looked at the complete ratings sheet and it honestly looks like he pulled some numbers out of a hat for some of these ratings. This is bad man. I feel sorry for you "player editing" guys. If the rest of the positions are like this, it might be a blessing that they took ratings editing out. Otherwise you'd prolly spend all your time changing ratings instead of playing.

# 143 Jono078 @ 08/05/12 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Candyman5


	How you seeing all stats? I just saw overall, throw accuracy and throw power with speed. How you all swing throw on the run and such?

It pays to read the first post in full;

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Originally Posted by Steve_OS


	For the complete Madden NFL 13* quarterback ratings, click here.*

You're welcome.

# 144 splff3000 @ 08/05/12 12:10 PM

Apparently, we aren't the only ones to notice that these ratings are off. Reading this:

Spoiler

just makes this whole thing worse. It really is time to get rid of the ratings Czar. One man's opinion, (cause it looks like that's all he's using for these ratings) should not be the sole factor in determining ratings and, subsequently, determining our experience in this years game. If EA's gonna do away with editing ratings they need to do away with the ratings czar. Maybe, it's time for a ratings parliament or a ratings congress lol.

# 145 DNMHIII @ 08/05/12 02:04 PM

Madden players ratings have always been a complete joke IMO. They need to bring back editing ASAP and also allow custom rosters online where both users must have identical rosters and that way you could have guys creating great edited roster and users playing rosters that they feel better reflect the players.

How cool would it be to play online with a roster that one of the roster gurus made with a bunch of edits that helps the game play better and also cleans up the original butchered attributes that don't even come close to reflecting the players true skills.

EA...Just make the game as best you can and then let us take over with as many editing options as possible.

# 146 WildcatZ @ 08/05/12 02:32 PM

Some are good, some are bad. Can't make everyone happy!

# 147 Shiny Cony @ 08/05/12 02:48 PM

Makes me laugh when i see RGIII rated higher than tim tebow.

# 148 DNMHIII @ 08/05/12 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiny Cony


	Makes me laugh when i see RGIII rated higher than tim tebow.

Do you watch college football?

# 149 N51_rob @ 08/05/12 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiny Cony


	Makes me laugh when i see RGIII rated higher than tim tebow.

Because a career 47.3 completion percentage makes Tebow a great QB.

Tebow's QBR puts him ahead of Curtis Painter and Blaine Gabbert.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

# 150 Candyman5 @ 08/05/12 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jono078


	It pays to read the first post in full; You're welcome.

I seen that before but I didn't notice the document popping up when I clicked on it and it directed me to that page of 4 ratings listed. So yes I did read the first post.....-_-

# 151 KingV2k3 @ 08/05/12 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by N51_rob


	So I guess it safe to say that John Parker Wilson throws like a girl, with a deep ball accuracy of 47.

Yup...absolutely ridiculous...

Dude might not be more than a taxi squad QB, but I'm sure he can "make all (or most) of the NFL throws" or he wouldn't still be in the league...

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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal


	Has anyone figured out how accuracy works in Madden? I always thought it should be based on aiming at a particular point, whether that be the receiver or a spot on the field and the rating dictating how accurate the player is at hitting that mark. Also with other variables like pressure and weather modifying the rating according to AWR and DPP. However I doubt that's how accuracy works in Madden and I would be interested to know how others think it actually does.

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Originally Posted by N51_rob


	Honestly I have no clue. I think the overall accuracy matters more than deep, mid and short accuracy. I had a QB who had a 74 overall accuracy and an 88 deep accuracy yet he still overthrew deep balls all the time and was generally inaccurate on the whole. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

My THEORY is that the overall accuracy combines with the short, medium and deep accuracy ratings to determine success...

For example:

Romo's overall ACC is 88

Short is 90

Medium is 84

Deep is 90

When "averaging" the overall with the S/M/D his ratings "adjust" to:

88+90 divided by 2 = 89 (short)

88+84 divided by 2 = 86 (medium)

88+90 divided by 2 = 89 (deep)

It might make "too much sense", but that's the way I BELIEVE it was meant to work / works...

As far as the deep accuracy issues N51_Rob describes:

I believe in the past 2-3 iterations of the game, deep ball completion is really a product of "pinpoint pressure" on the button and the WR having position or a step on the defender...as well as when in the route you release the ball...

It was intended to make it tougher (fine by me), but really ended up make it kind of "arbitrary"...

I went from not being able to hit the broad side of a barn (deep) with 'Skins Crompton, (low overall ACC / nice deep ball rating) by focusing on the above...

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Originally Posted by rudyjuly2


	I am curious to see if we will be able to find a roster workaround for the game. With NBA Live 10 rosters we were able to sneak rosters from one file to the next through USB saves by copying and pasting the roster data but keeping the profile name the same. I wonder if we edited the rosters but then copied the roster data over to an official EA roster file if we would be able to cheat the system and do this? Maybe EA has blocked this or it's not possible in Madden but I'd like to see if it's possible.

I wasn't aware of this for LIVE, so if you know how to make this happen, you're going to be MVP of this year's rosters, Sir!

PLEASE keep us posted!!!

# 152 gatek99 @ 08/05/12 09:13 PM

how are these the complete ratings? What are the other accuracy ratings for these guys?

# 153 bmj2k7 @ 08/06/12 01:42 AM

Guess Jake Locker will be getting a boost or Hasselback taking a decrease since it looks like Locker will win the starting job in TEN, its now Lockers job to lose. I guess bc there similar passing, Lockers mobility and huge arm and there similar decision making gave him the edge

# 154 Jono078 @ 08/06/12 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jono078


	Apparently 68 of the 113 Quarterbacks throw on the run equally the same. Not sure if anyone has said that yet, but that's the big thing I noticed.

I can't believe no one has commented on this one yet!

I thought this would have sent the community into a rage.

# 155 Dj_MyTime @ 08/06/12 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CRMosier_LM


	Newton wasn't even close to Luck in college. In the nfl newton had a very good rookie year... But he threw a ton of picks. Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2

Where do people get this "tons of picks" stuff from. He only threw 17 in comparison to his 21 passing TD's.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...994/cam-newton

Meanwhile QB's like Philip Rivers threw 20 (87 DAC) 92 ovr http://search.espn.go.com/philip-rivers/, Eli Manning threw 16 (96 DAC) 97 ovr, http://search.espn.go.com/eli-manning/.

So when compared to "elite type QB's" he stacks up fairly similary, so why the drop in accuracy across the board when in M 12 he finished the season with an 85 DAC rating iirc. 89 SAC, 86 MAC, 75 DAC....it just doesn't make sense when you compare his season to QB's who finished with similar statistics.

Then for players who don't even have NFL snaps under their belts to be as INFLATED as they are, there's no excuse. The ONLY reason RGIII is as hyped as he is, is because Newton set a new perception of black, mobile, spread QB's, simple as that. If Newton had stunk it up RGIII would've been drafted mid-late 1st, and Weeden would've been the first QB after Luck.

# 156 XplosiveRunna26 @ 08/06/12 09:00 AM

Honestly it doesn't seem to matter how FAST these QB's run....the D-Line somehow outruns them and catches them anyways...smh. It's so frustrating seeing vick get hawked by a 6'6 350lb lineman behind the line of scrimmaged.

# 157 Dj_MyTime @ 08/06/12 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by XplosiveRunna26


	Honestly it doesn't seem to matter how FAST these QB's run....the D-Line somehow outruns them and catches them anyways...smh. It's so frustrating seeing vick get hawked by a 6'6 350lb lineman behind the line of scrimmaged.

That's what the "speed threshold" of 15 has helped eliminate. It's default is 35 points higher at 50, which means that there is less of a Madden difference between slower and faster players which is why that happens as often as it does.

# 158 MattGarza13 @ 08/06/12 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by XplosiveRunna26


	Honestly it doesn't seem to matter how FAST these QB's run....the D-Line somehow outruns them and catches them anyways...smh. It's so frustrating seeing vick get hawked by a 6'6 350lb lineman behind the line of scrimmaged.

Speed threshold is your friend.

# 159 KingV2k3 @ 08/06/12 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jono078


	Apparently 68 of the 113 Quarterbacks throw on the run equally the same. Not sure if anyone has said that yet, but that's the big thing I noticed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono078


	I can't believe no one has commented on this one yet! I thought this would have sent the community into a rage.

Personally, this threw me into a fit of "why am I not surprised"?

# 160 bucknut88 @ 08/06/12 07:41 PM

I'm ok with Andy Dalton's overall rating. I think he's a solid quarterback (who will probably have a worse 2nd year than rookie year). But he isn't a stud...isn't elite, and probably never will be. But one thing he is, is accurate. He doesn't have a cannon but he knows where to throw the ball. Now, AJ Green really helped make him look better than I think he actually is, but his accuracy seems a little too low to me. ESPECIALLY, when you compare it to Tebow. I'm sorry if this has been said, and I'm sorry if this is obvious but Tebow's throwing accuracy is wayyyy too high.

EDIT: Sorry I failed to realize that was Deep ball accuracy. In that case, I think 81 is too high for Dalton...he doesn't throw it deep unless he throws a jump ball to AJ Green who usually makes the play because he's a beast.

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