05:38 PM - February 14, 2012 by bp4baseball News Post
05:38 PM - February 14, 2012 by bp4baseball
MLB 12 The Show Videos
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# 62
EnigmaNemesis @ 02/15/12 02:14 PM
New ball physics add a whole new dimension of "core mechanics" in video game baseball. As well as the new fielding animations, branching and urgency. Tagging system, player awareness, break up plays and beauty of the double plays, etc.
Feels like a whole different evolution for baseball gaming. One where I can no longer even "watch" '11 play out, let alone play.
And that is just the tip of the slew of features they have added. But since we are on the subject of "core mechanics", I need not mention everything else.
Feels like a whole different evolution for baseball gaming. One where I can no longer even "watch" '11 play out, let alone play.
And that is just the tip of the slew of features they have added. But since we are on the subject of "core mechanics", I need not mention everything else.
Well...IMO Community WEEK has evolved.....for the MUCH GREATER GOOD of the community.
As being someone who has attended every one of these events.....here is my take.
We initially started as kind of a "sneak peek" group.....and that's why you saw a lot of pics and our general opinions of what we saw at the events.
Fast forward to FOUR(?) years later and it's become much more of a conduit of direct input/request from the users of the game...to the designers of the game.
Whereas initially...the devs would come into the room where we checking out the game....and we would comment on what we saw.....we now spend most of our time...checking things out....going to the devs...relaying our thoughts(community) and they ...if possible(at the point they are in development) try to implement our suggestions if possible.
This was more apparent than ever in each area that we concentrated on individually the past two years. Brett and Nem with online...Nem and Pared with gameplay...Brandon with unis and stadiums....me just taking up space(A LOT)
....and add to that the fact that Ramone wisely has pushed the process into an even greater limit by asking even more guys in every year.....that he sees are active in certain areas of the game(Yanks...with online...theSlab...stadiums/unis/online....tabarnes19 with franchise)....and it's become much more than..."take pics of this".....etc.
JMO...but I'd much rather have the time spent "working" on things than "playing and posting pics". .....and honestly...the time is shorter than you think...and we spend A TON of time in studio.
That's why we leave any of the media to SCEA.(I know they would let us at least take pics)...but even that is getting cut into as Ramone has more and more of his time taken by us with questions...****nning around chasing down answers and such as well.
This has nothing to do with me being there or not...but this is one of the smartest things a game company has done to further there product IMO.
M.K.
Knight165
As being someone who has attended every one of these events.....here is my take.
We initially started as kind of a "sneak peek" group.....and that's why you saw a lot of pics and our general opinions of what we saw at the events.
Fast forward to FOUR(?) years later and it's become much more of a conduit of direct input/request from the users of the game...to the designers of the game.
Whereas initially...the devs would come into the room where we checking out the game....and we would comment on what we saw.....we now spend most of our time...checking things out....going to the devs...relaying our thoughts(community) and they ...if possible(at the point they are in development) try to implement our suggestions if possible.
This was more apparent than ever in each area that we concentrated on individually the past two years. Brett and Nem with online...Nem and Pared with gameplay...Brandon with unis and stadiums....me just taking up space(A LOT)
....and add to that the fact that Ramone wisely has pushed the process into an even greater limit by asking even more guys in every year.....that he sees are active in certain areas of the game(Yanks...with online...theSlab...stadiums/unis/online....tabarnes19 with franchise)....and it's become much more than..."take pics of this".....etc.
JMO...but I'd much rather have the time spent "working" on things than "playing and posting pics". .....and honestly...the time is shorter than you think...and we spend A TON of time in studio.
That's why we leave any of the media to SCEA.(I know they would let us at least take pics)...but even that is getting cut into as Ramone has more and more of his time taken by us with questions...****nning around chasing down answers and such as well.
This has nothing to do with me being there or not...but this is one of the smartest things a game company has done to further there product IMO.
M.K.
Knight165
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really? nice contribution.
stuff like that stinks on here.
i am loving the look of yankees stadium this year!
excited to see more of what they did to those ribbons.
bring on the raw footage baby!
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Maybe....but so does the "no gameplay footage?....I'll stick with XXX".
Is that a necessary addition to the thread?
I think not.
M.K.
Knight165
# 66
Yankees2009Champs @ 02/15/12 02:29 PM
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The guy is entitled to his own opinion. And people make condescending remarks about how well see you next year? Is that your way of getting him to buy the game.
I did look at MLB 11, and surprisingly gameplat vids didn't release until February 18 and so on. Here's to seeing actual gameplay evidence that the game has improved/changed.
(Not for you Knight, just replied to the last comment on this thread)
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those comments about 'no gameplay footage' can be ,kind of [but not really] related to the thread in that they see that and then wonder where to other footage is.
but hit and run type comments like the one i quoted aren't necessary and just come of as argumentative.
i mean do they really think the person isn't going to respond to it? and how will they? nicely? probably not lol
it'd probably be better to let a comment like that roll. SCEA doesn't need posters here to defend them in that regard.
do the show forums need more of that as it is?
i could probably put names in a hat of the posters who will make a snarky comment after someone says something negative about the Show, then pull them out afterwards and win my girl a kewpie doll.
i agree some of the stuff posted doesn't need to be said, this post probably as well!
peace. love.
ok enough outta me,
i gotta get ready to go a knicks game.
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I'm encouraged also by the apparent improvement to the arm action of the pitchers. I've yet to see how it looks in a gameplay video, but it looks like Sony got it pretty correct from the little slow-mo shot of CC.
I can only hope this will improve the experience at the plate by allowing for the ball to be released at the appropriate spot and to not look like it just shot out of a pitching machine. Timing is very important and we need the arm action to get timing correct.
Also, I think pitching could be more enjoyable as well. The view from behind as the pitcher's arm-whip unfolds could make for some visually stunning moments where you can almost feel the power behind the pitch. That is, of course, as long as the pitch isn't turned around for a 430' homerun.
I can only hope this will improve the experience at the plate by allowing for the ball to be released at the appropriate spot and to not look like it just shot out of a pitching machine. Timing is very important and we need the arm action to get timing correct.
Also, I think pitching could be more enjoyable as well. The view from behind as the pitcher's arm-whip unfolds could make for some visually stunning moments where you can almost feel the power behind the pitch. That is, of course, as long as the pitch isn't turned around for a 430' homerun.
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peace. love.<3.
I'm basing my purchase on the knowledge the game gets better each year.
If what SCEA has produced over the past few years doesn't get people past wanting to see 3000 minutes of film to justify a purchase then they simply want to complain just for the sake of complaining.
Not mentioning any other companies but for me until SCEA starts slowing down on the improving of an already great game, I don't need gigabite upon gigabite of videos and pics to be sure I'm buying a quality product.
They've earned that respect.
If what SCEA has produced over the past few years doesn't get people past wanting to see 3000 minutes of film to justify a purchase then they simply want to complain just for the sake of complaining.
Not mentioning any other companies but for me until SCEA starts slowing down on the improving of an already great game, I don't need gigabite upon gigabite of videos and pics to be sure I'm buying a quality product.
They've earned that respect.
You know what I have noticed? White names can be blasted for their comments without mercy by a blue name; even more, a blue name that had attended community day. How were you guys even chosen to attend communtity day I often wonder? How were you all deemed The Greatest Fans of the Show on the Face of the Earth? Hmm, interesting to me. I wish OS would give the community day gods gold names, so we can bow to their existence upon any thread they enter.
When I read the comment from the gentleman that may or will keep playing '10, but then was ridiculed in such a cute, hip, and ruthless manner, I simply shook my head. Why couldn't the response be met with an uttering of "to each their own" to themselves, and let it drop. Heck, what's the big deal, I have seriously considered sticking with '11 simply because I want to keep playing with the classic roster set I have? It doesn't mean 12 will be awful and unfit for purchase, it's a simple choice. Now, the gentleman may have other reasons for the comment, but it is moot in my opinion.
Nonetheless, it looks like it is my turn for the cute abuse from the resident dieties. OK, blast away big boys!
When I read the comment from the gentleman that may or will keep playing '10, but then was ridiculed in such a cute, hip, and ruthless manner, I simply shook my head. Why couldn't the response be met with an uttering of "to each their own" to themselves, and let it drop. Heck, what's the big deal, I have seriously considered sticking with '11 simply because I want to keep playing with the classic roster set I have? It doesn't mean 12 will be awful and unfit for purchase, it's a simple choice. Now, the gentleman may have other reasons for the comment, but it is moot in my opinion.
Nonetheless, it looks like it is my turn for the cute abuse from the resident dieties. OK, blast away big boys!
Yeah, this thread has definitely been led astray... especially when you get people specifically asking for a "rise" from other members.
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