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NBA 2K12 Roster Update Available Now (1-20-12) - Video of Changes Included

07:15 AM - January 20, 2012 by marcoss

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Here is a list of changes.

Mike Dunleavy - injured (Strained groin - out indefinitely)
Michael Beasley - injured (Mid-foot sprain - out indefinitely)
Eric Maynor - injured (Torn ACL - out for the season)
Kwame Brown - injured (Torn pectoral - out 3 months)
T.J. Ford - injured ( Torn hamstring - out 4-6 weeks)
Al Horford - injured (Torn pectoral - out 3 months)
Steve Blake - injured (Fractured rib - out 3-4 weeks)
Linas Kleiza - back from injury
Ishmael Smith - waived
Earl Barron - FA signing with Warriors
Jeff Foster - injured (Back procedure - out 2 weeks)
Mike Miller - back from injury
E'Twaun Moore - rookie
Isaiah Thomas - rookie
Charles Jenkins - rookie

Among the "Biggest Movers" (+ or -) include:

Andrew Bynum - Lakers
Kyle Lowry - Rockets
Ryan Anderson - Magic
Ricky Rubio - Timberwolves
Byron Mullens - Bobcats
DeAndre Jordan - Clippers
Jeff Teague - Hawks
Spencer Hawes - 76ers
Dorell Wright - Warriors
Deron Williams - Nets

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# 141 infam0us @ 01/22/12 08:39 PM

Agree with alexthegreat, if they are creating actual player models for missing players than I cant be mad at 2k for not having the missing guys ready. The rotations, injuries, and ratings should be up to date though. 2k will never be able to please everyone with their rosters but they can do a lot better than this, heck the rosters they put out in years past were better.

# 142 geneticray @ 01/23/12 06:38 PM

we all want whats best for us fans of 2k to give us a great product with great feedback but they fall short in areas as always 2k should hire me to the crew cause when i do my roster edits i can do it in a days time and enjoy doing it cause i want my game to be as accurate as possible we all agree too many block shots and steals in the game with computer god like defense with pgs blocking centers dunk attempts and on and on with a things we could point out i agree and disagree with alot of ratings and so for lowry could've stayed at a 84 in 3pts but any who think he doesn't deserve his overall rating really haven't seen his stats or overall play, rubio 85 in 3pts could have been 80 to 83 who cares 40% in 3pts is 40% u can't argue about kobe 3pt rating then be mad at a guy shooting good in 3pts when other ratings like pull jumpers, stepback jumpers, consistency ratings play in to all that but rubio is playing great and deserves some but not all ratings he got 2k needs to get all the rookies in cause if its try they were on the disc already then they are really slacking no excuses there monroe still a 65 is a joke 17pts over 9 rebs a game get real like kevin love should be higher than a 82 when u put 25pts and 14rebs a game and lost weight 30 to 40 lbs means u should move faster 2k ratings have one common flaw in the game players speed ratings are wrong across the board along with vertical ratings and steals ratings 0.9 stls in 20mins a game shouldn't be a 48 rating when a guy plays 30 mins gets a 71 with a 0.7 stls see lou williams to prove my point but i can go on for days but yal get what what im sayin 2k look me up if yal need help, mullens over 12pts and 5 rebs a game 57 rating what a joke i never seen guys with 62 to 65 ratings averaging double figures in pts rate lower than guys with 66 to 69 ratings who don't avg 4pts but with better overals ratings, 2k get it together, i mean bargs 20+ pts and 5 rebs gets a 68 rating when maxiell gets a 70 rating, lolllllllllllllll.

# 143 neptuneniq @ 01/23/12 08:08 PM

i like Kevin Durant's new shot release

# 144 Norris_Cole @ 01/23/12 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by geneticray


	we all want whats best for us fans of 2k to give us a great product with great feedback but they fall short in areas as always 2k should hire me to the crew cause when i do my roster edits i can do it in a days time and enjoy doing it cause i want my game to be as accurate as possible we all agree too many block shots and steals in the game with computer god like defense with pgs blocking centers dunk attempts and on and on with a things we could point out i agree and disagree with alot of ratings and so for lowry could've stayed at a 84 in 3pts but any who think he doesn't deserve his overall rating really haven't seen his stats or overall play, rubio 85 in 3pts could have been 80 to 83 who cares 40% in 3pts is 40% u can't argue about kobe 3pt rating then be mad at a guy shooting good in 3pts when other ratings like pull jumpers, stepback jumpers, consistency ratings play in to all that but rubio is playing great and deserves some but not all ratings he got 2k needs to get all the rookies in cause if its try they were on the disc already then they are really slacking no excuses there monroe still a 65 is a joke 17pts over 9 rebs a game get real like kevin love should be higher than a 82 when u put 25pts and 14rebs a game and lost weight 30 to 40 lbs means u should move faster 2k ratings have one common flaw in the game players speed ratings are wrong across the board along with vertical ratings and steals ratings 0.9 stls in 20mins a game shouldn't be a 48 rating when a guy plays 30 mins gets a 71 with a 0.7 stls see lou williams to prove my point but i can go on for days but yal get what what im sayin 2k look me up if yal need help, mullens over 12pts and 5 rebs a game 57 rating what a joke i never seen guys with 62 to 65 ratings averaging double figures in pts rate lower than guys with 66 to 69 ratings who don't avg 4pts but with better overals ratings, 2k get it together, i mean bargs 20+ pts and 5 rebs gets a 68 rating when maxiell gets a 70 rating, lolllllllllllllll.

# 145 Allanlopez10 @ 01/23/12 08:28 PM

I want someone in my xbox has the link?please

# 146 Norris_Cole @ 01/23/12 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Allanlopez10


	I want someone in my xbox has the link?please

What do you mean?

# 147 Allanlopez10 @ 01/23/12 09:39 PM

I want the link on this new update, please

# 148 Norris_Cole @ 01/23/12 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Allanlopez10


	I want the link on this new update, please

Credit to Thelorn

1x20 Official 2k Roster
Roster = http://www.mediafire.com/file/7laju6jffxucf3f/1x20.ROS
Online Data = http://www.mediafire.com/file/9vv0p73c3z64bxa/Online Data.DAT

# 149 Allanlopez10 @ 01/24/12 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Norris_Cole


	Credit to Thelorn 1x20 Official 2k Roster Roster = http://www.mediafire.com/file/7laju6jffxucf3f/1x20.ROS Online Data = http://www.mediafire.com/file/9vv0p73c3z64bxa/Online Data.DAT

thanks mean

# 150 PrettyT11 @ 01/24/12 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by thugnificant


	dirk still has 99 close shot and 99 mid, will this get decreased anytime this season??? he took 3 games off himself because he knows he is playing like crap, why does insider ignore this or he is getting the kobe treatment.

His mid range rating shouldn't drop. He is shooting the exact same percentage that he did last season. His close or inside could drop a couple though. The 3 to 9 feet is the area where his percentage has really dropped.

# 151 Norris_Cole @ 01/24/12 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyT11


	His mid range rating shouldn't drop. He is shooting the exact same percentage that he did last season. His close or inside could drop a couple though. The 3 to 9 feet is the area where his percentage has really dropped.

He isn't the best mid range shooter anymore. At least at the moment.

# 152 PrettyT11 @ 01/24/12 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Norris_Cole


	He isn't the best mid range shooter anymore. At least at the moment.

That really doesn't matter. We rate a player based on what they do/did. You don't lower a guys rating for doing the same exact thing he did the year before. What you do is give the guys who are shooting better a boost.

# 153 Norris_Cole @ 01/24/12 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyT11


	That really doesn't matter. We rate a player based on what they do/did. You don't lower a guys rating for doing the same exact thing he did the year before. What you do is give the guys who are shooting better a boost.

You lower him if he is overrated, as I said there are better mid range shooters than him right now and Dirk is rated +15 or 20 points than them, does that make sense?.

Dirk just got pretty overrated just because he won the championship. That's a fact

# 154 PrettyT11 @ 01/24/12 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Norris_Cole


	You lower him if he is overrated, as I said there are better mid range shooters than him right now and Dirk is rated +15 or 20 points than them, does that make sense?. Dirk just got pretty overrated just because he won the championship. That's a fact

Ok first that is not a fact that is your opnion.

Second ratings are determined based on a formula. For instance in the past 2K's formula for shot ratings from 3 was take the player percentage and add 45. When you are using a formula based system you put the numbers in and go by what comes out. Last season Dirk shot an amazing 52 percent from mid range. He is shooting the exact same percentage this year. There is no way you can justify a drop especially when you are using a math based formula. Again you don't lower him you raise the guys shooting better.

Lastly one thing you need to undertand is sample size. 15 games worth of data is not enough to override 82 games worth that the default ratings was based off of. So yes i can agree with giving guys who are shooting greatly a boost but no you don't lower a guy for doing the same or instantly jump guys ahead of him for just 15 games worth of work. If we did it your way then Marreese Speights would be a 99 from mid range right now and Corey Brewer would be a 99 3pt rating right now. Now do either of those ratings make any kind of sense to you??

# 155 Norris_Cole @ 01/24/12 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyT11


	Ok first that is not a fact that is your opnion. Second ratings are determined based on a formula. For instance in the past 2K's formula for shot ratings from 3 was take the player percentage and add 45. When you are using a formula based system you put the numbers in and go by what comes out. Last season Dirk shot an amazing 52 percent from mid range. He is shooting the exact same percentage this year. There is no way you can justify a drop especially when you are using a math based formula. Again you don't lower him you raise the guys shooting better. Lastly one thing you need to undertand is sample size. 15 games worth of data is not enough to override 82 games worth that the default ratings was based off of. So yes i can agree with giving guys who are shooting greatly a boost but no you don't lower a guy for doing the same or instantly jump guys ahead of him for just 15 games worth of work. If we did it your way then Marreese Speights would be a 99 from mid range right now and Corey Brewer would be a 99 3pt rating right now. Now do either of those ratings make any kind of sense to you??

He is shooting 47% from mid range, not 52%, that's a decrease from his previous year if my maths are still good, besides that he is not scoring the same amount of mid range jumpers per game than last year. And besides that his productivity has drastically decreased, from 23 ppg and 52% fg to 17ppg and 45% fg, his always poor rebounding stats have decreased as well, from 7 rebounds to 5.4

And you say he doesn't need a decrease? Just wow

http://www.nba.com/statscube/player.html#Dirk-Nowitzki|1717;year=201112;season=r

Kobe Bryant for example is shooting 46%, but with higher attempts both made and attempted (almost 100 mid range shots made already against Dirk's 62,)

Despite that Dirk is a 99 in mid and Kobe 78 , Does that make any sense to you?

If you say yes I'm sorry but you have a problem

About the excuse of the sample data, so 15 games are enough to give somebody a rating boost, but not a rating decrease? Doesn't that sound ironic? This is called living rosters for a reason.

# 156 PrettyT11 @ 01/24/12 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Norris_Cole


	He is shooting 47% from mid range, not 52%, that's a decrease from his previous year if my maths are still good http://www.nba.com/statscube/player.html#Dirk-Nowitzki\|1717;year=201112;season=r Kobe Bryant for example is shooting 46%, but with higher attempts both made and attempted (almost 100 mid range shots made already against Dirk's 62) Despite that Dirk is a 99 in mid and Kobe 78 , Does that make any sense to you? If you say yes I'm sorry but you have a problem

You can't go by that link you posted because that area that is highlighted also had areas in it that would fall under the close rating. Hoopdata matches up the closest with how 2K breaks down the locations. According to them Dirk is at 52 percent the same as last year. Kobe is at 46 percent.

Again you are clearly missing the point and the logic behind this. The reason why Kobe had a 78 out the box is because he shot 38 percent from mid range last year and that was the third year in a row his percentage dropped. Dirk shot 52 percent. It is clear to see why he was rated much higher. Now taking this year into account Kobe's number has jumped from last year while Dirk has stayed his great self from that area. So the simple answer here is You raise Kobe's rating but you don't lower Dirk's. It is really just that simple you are trying to hard to make up some logic that doesn't really apply here.

# 157 Norris_Cole @ 01/24/12 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyT11


	You can't go by that link you posted because that area that is highlighted also had areas in it that would fall under the close rating. Hoopdata matches up the closest with how 2K breaks down the locations. According to them Dirk is at 52 percent the same as last year. Kobe is at 46 percent. Again you are clearly missing the point and the logic behind this. The reason why Kobe had a 78 out the box is because he shot 38 percent from mid range last year and that was the third year in a row his percentage dropped. Dirk shot 52 percent. It is clear to see why he was rated much higher. Now taking this year into account Kobe's number has jumped from last year while Dirk has stayed his great self from that area. So the simple answer here is You raise Kobe's rating but you don't lower Dirk's. It is really just that simple you are trying to hard to make up some logic that doesn't really apply here.

Ok then, I'm not going to waste my time with someone who clearly doesn't see the reality. You can compare last year % ,(53% according to the link I posted against 52% from hoopdata), with the 47% right now. The highlighted area is the worst excuse ever and doesn't make any sense, sorry to tell you, because he has almost the same % in 2011 in hoopdata and in the website I posted. But anyway I'm done with fanboys for today

# 158 PrettyT11 @ 01/24/12 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Norris_Cole


	Ok then, I'm not going to waste my time with someone who clearly doesn't see the reality. You can compare last year % ,(53% according to the link I posted against 52% from hoopdata), with the 47% right now. The highlighted area is the worst excuse ever and doesn't make any sense, sorry to tell you, because he has almost the same % in 2011 in hoopdata and in the website I posted. But anyway I'm done with fanboys for today

Yes you should stop becuase it's clear you don't understand how to analyze stat data and looking at it also it is questionable you well you can read the numbers there. It is obvious to see that those two different sites don't match up anywhere near each other. Your link posted show Dirk taking 133 shots in the area you wanted highlighted. Hoopdata has him at 81 attempts from 16 to 23 feet so clearly they are not the same. I don't even have to show you the numbers last year to prove that point. Clearly they are tracking shots from different distances.

In your last post i saw you edited it after i had already quoted it but please tell me where I mentioned anything about his rebounding or anything of that nature?? We was clearly speaking on shot ratings(in which I said his close or inside deserves a decrease) then you come in taking about something completely different trying to put words in my mouth. Nice try though.

I don't know where you get the fanboy stuff from becuase I have clearly never been anything close to one for any of the mentioned people or companies invloved. So yes please just stop because you are still clearly missing all of the logic and points behind how you input the numbers to determine a rating.

# 159 Norris_Cole @ 01/24/12 01:09 PM

well, 23 ppg and 7 rebounds per game with 51.7% fg and 39.3% from 3pt to 17 ppg and 5 rpg with 45.6% fg and 23.5 from three.

That's a big overall decrease without any doubt. Can't wait about what do you have to say about that.

# 160 Norris_Cole @ 01/24/12 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyT11


	Your link posted show Dirk taking 133 shots in the area you wanted highlighted. Hoopdata has him at 81 attempts from 16 to 23 feet so clearly they are not the same.

Simply because you are only looking at 16-23 feet, but in case you don't know, a lot of 10-15 feet shoots also can be considered in the mid range area.

Hoopdata is pretty inaccurate there as it doesn't show that. The nba.com link actualy takes the shot charts from the game and automatically translates it into mid range shots so obviously it's a way more reliable source for this.

But hey, keep living in your bubble, Dirk is playing at the same level than last year or even better xD

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