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WWE 12 Retail Early Impressions

02:00 AM - November 12, 2011 by Streets

It has been confirmed that a few people already have WWE 12. Please post your impressions here.

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# 301 hulkhogan1 @ 11/16/11 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jrider99


	I've seen two drafts and it's totally random. In my first year, Triple H and Husky Harris went to Smackdown and Goldust (I think) and Sheamus came to Raw. In the second year, ADR went from Raw to Smackdown (I can't recall who else was involved). The good news is the draft can: a) be turned off and b) essentially vetoed by editting a guys brand. In a related note, I've straight simmed two years worth of Universe and have no problems with any of the title reigns I've seen. If anything, guys seem to hang on to the belts too long. I haven't seen any jobbers rise through the ranks to claim a belt, though several have earned title shots, including Slater, McGillicuty, Otunga and Goldust. Goldust actually had a brief run as IC champ, but it lasted only one month. Major title holders have included Cena, Punk, HBK, Undertaker, Sheamus, Orton, Christian, Mark Henry and Triple H -- I may be forgetting one or two, but these have been the most dominant guys in my Universe, as they should be.

So how easy is it to push a main eventer down to midcard status? Do you have to have them lose alot of matches so their momentum goes down or something? Or will the guys with the highest overalls be main eventers regardless?

# 302 jrider99 @ 11/16/11 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ctr05


	did you bring back the Women's championship or just using the Diva's championship? have you seen any stories with them, and what have been the prominent feuds/matches? Also, is the Undisputed Title put on both shows if selected? ohhh and did you find a way to figure out the tag title debacle for the ones you don't want to use?

I haven't done anything with the divas. Well, actually I did try to get rid of the women's title and replace it with another minor championship, but couldn't. As far as the tag belts, I've stopped trying to figure it out. I think someone else on here offered a suggestion that involved creating a team, moving them to a dead brand and then resetting them, but I haven't tried it out. And I keep forgetting to check on the Undisputed title. I'll look at that when I get home tonight.

# 303 ctr05 @ 11/16/11 10:55 PM

Ahhh gotcha. I'll have to give that a try when I get the game. When you check on the undisputed title could you also check to see if you can put the women's title on both brands? i know you can for the diva's title but i REALLY hate that belt.

# 304 jrider99 @ 11/16/11 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hulkhogan1


	So how easy is it to push a main eventer down to midcard status? Do you have to have them lose alot of matches so their momentum goes down or something? Or will the guys with the highest overalls be main eventers regardless?

It seems that momentum has a lot to do with it. When I first started, Cena lost a couple of matches early and was totally out of the title picture for a month or two. At the same time, I have seen borderline main eventers like Barrett get bumped all the way down to Superstars.

What I haven't seen though, thankfully, is legit main-event guys get shipped off to Superstars.

I've seen guys like Triple H and Christian involved in the minor championship picture, which is kinda cool once in a while, but for the most part the rankings seem to reflect a person's overall rating -- in other words, I haven't seen the same top guys listed as No. 1 contenders for both belts at the same time. The top guys chase the major belts and the mid-carders go after the minor title. I haven't seen anything in this regard that concerns me.

# 305 jrider99 @ 11/16/11 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Seymour Scagnetti


	I remember people complaining last year that they would use a mid card guy or CAW for months and win consistently but they would never get into the top 10 in the rankings for a major title. I know you can edit in wrestlers for a title match but can you edit him in a match for a major title if the mid carder or CAW you are using is not ranked in the top 10?

Yeah, you can put anyone in a title match at any time as far as I know.

# 306 jrider99 @ 11/16/11 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Seymour Scagnetti


	On a related note if I import a CAW from the community do I get their custom music as well or is that on me to do.

I think you're on your own as far as music goes. Not sure if you would get it if they selected one of the tracks included on the disc. There aren't any up for download (obviously) so I can't check on it yet.

# 307 TheYankeeKiller @ 11/17/11 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Seymour Scagnetti


	BTW jrider you respond quickly. I may have to nominate you as for poster of the year simply for how thorough you have been the last few days. As you can see that's my devious way in getting preferential treatment in my queries being answered promptly. (ie:Cheap pop)

That makes you the Mick Foley of Operation Sports.

More importantly, I agree, JRider has gone above and beyond, and then some. Thanks, dude!

# 308 jrider99 @ 11/17/11 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Seymour Scagnetti


	Niiiiiice. Can you edit rankings as well to put your own guy in there or is that completely controlled by the universe? BTW jrider you respond quickly. I may have to nominate you as for poster of the year simply for how thorough you have been the last few days. As you can see that's my devious way in getting preferential treatment in my queries being answered promptly. (ie:Cheap pop)

Rankings are controlled by the Universe and can't be editted. But with the ability to book your own title matches, they really don't matter anyway.

And thanks for the kind words. I'll remember them fondly when you guys hate the game and come back here next week blaming me for making you buy it LOL

# 309 jrider99 @ 11/17/11 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ctr05


	Ahhh gotcha. I'll have to give that a try when I get the game. When you check on the undisputed title could you also check to see if you can put the women's title on both brands? i know you can for the diva's title but i REALLY hate that belt.

OK, I'm not quite sure what you guys want to know about the Undisputed title, but I can tell you that you can assign that championship to be the major title for both brands. Same goes for the women's championship.

# 310 jrider99 @ 11/17/11 01:17 AM

While checking on the Undisputed title, I noticed what may be an issue for some. When a title is shared between brands, all members of those brands appear on both shows. I had noticed this with the tag teams and divas, but wrote it off to there being such a small pool of talent in each of those divisions.

But once I made the Undisputed Championship the major title for both Raw and Smackdown, the brand split ended and people from both brands began appearing in the rankings for the Undisputed title.

I checked and the rosters hadn't changed, so this is either a bug or an intended consequence to sharing one title between brands. I'm not sure which.

# 311 ctr05 @ 11/17/11 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jrider99


	OK, I'm not quite sure what you guys want to know about the Undisputed title, but I can tell you that you can assign that championship to be the major title for both brands. Same goes for the women's championship.

Yeah that's what I wanted to know, if the Undisputed and Women's titles could be on both Raw and Smackdown in their respective slots. thanks!!

# 312 ctr05 @ 11/17/11 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jrider99


	While checking on the Undisputed title, I noticed what may be an issue for some. When a title is shared between brands, all members of those brands appear on both shows. I had noticed this with the tag teams and divas, but wrote it off to there being such a small pool of talent in each of those divisions. But once I made the Undisputed Championship the major title for both Raw and Smackdown, the brand split ended and people from both brands began appearing in the rankings for the Undisputed title. I checked and the rosters hadn't changed, so this is either a bug or an intended consequence to sharing one title between brands. I'm not sure which.

Yeah, that seems about right. If the Undisputed Title is the major title for both Raw and Smackdown then naturally the ratings would be a mix of both rosters. Same for other divisions as well. if the Women's Title is in the Diva slot for both shows then the rankings would be combined there too. If you decided to seperate the titles again (say, WCW Championship for Raw/Nitro and World Heavyweight for Smackdown, and Women's for Raw/Nitro and Diva's for Smackdown) the ratings would split again.

# 313 jrider99 @ 11/17/11 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Seymour Scagnetti


	I don't really watch much wrestling these days so I'm not sure how this brand stuff works in every detail but isn't it logical for the undisputed title for both brands have wrestlers from both brands to appear in the rankings? If it only had rankings from one brand then it's not really a major title for both or am I missing something here?

That makes sense, and it's possible that's how it was programmed to be. But what it does essentially is override the rosters that are assigned to each brand.

For instance, if you have your Universe set up for only Raw guys to appear on Raw, then have a shared title, wrestlers from Smackdown will start being booked on Raw, too. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but it bears mention either way.

# 314 ctr05 @ 11/17/11 01:40 AM

oh and I know you answered this before but I don't feel like scrolling through the pages....could I dump the titles on a created wrestler and put him on a dead brand (example: AWA) and have that be the solution to ridding my universe of those extra titles? or does it need to be someone like Arn Anderson and have him get shipped off to AWA. cuz if I can use created wrestlers I'll make a guy named Vacant, then a team of Vacant1 and Vacant 2, and a woman named VacantDiva, give them the titles I have no use for and put them in AWA.

# 315 jrider99 @ 11/17/11 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ctr05


	Yeah, that seems about right. If the Undisputed Title is the major title for both Raw and Smackdown then naturally the ratings would be a mix of both rosters. Same for other divisions as well. if the Women's Title is in the Diva slot for both shows then the rankings would be combined there too. If you decided to seperate the titles again (say, WCW Championship for Raw/Nitro and World Heavyweight for Smackdown, and Women's for Raw/Nitro and Diva's for Smackdown) the ratings would split again.

Yeah, the ratings aren't the problem as much as it's the apparent merging of the two rosters. Smackdown guys are wrestling on Raw and Raw guys wrestling on Smackdown. Some might view that as a problem.

# 316 DJ @ 11/17/11 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jrider99


	I've seen two drafts and it's totally random. In my first year, Triple H and Husky Harris went to Smackdown and Goldust (I think) and Sheamus came to Raw. In the second year, ADR went from Raw to Smackdown (I can't recall who else was involved). The good news is the draft can: a) be turned off and b) essentially vetoed by editting a guys brand. In a related note, I've straight simmed two years worth of Universe and have no problems with any of the title reigns I've seen. If anything, guys seem to hang on to the belts too long. I haven't seen any jobbers rise through the ranks to claim a belt, though several have earned title shots, including Slater, McGillicuty, Otunga and Goldust. Goldust actually had a brief run as IC champ, but it lasted only one month. Major title holders have included Cena, Punk, HBK, Undertaker, Sheamus, Orton, Christian, Mark Henry and Triple H -- I may be forgetting one or two, but these have been the most dominant guys in my Universe, as they should be.

Man, that's really good news, IMO.

I'm so torn on what to do about this game. I like the idea of Universe Mode and also, just setting up my own Federation and doing CPU-CPU matches (I write down shows in notebooks. I'll make up promos as well. I did this with Legends of Wrestemania and it was a blast).

Speaking of LOW, that was the last wrestling game I truly enjoyed. That game, to me, was pretty balanced and I liked the QTE for finishers and other chain moves.

Are you still enjoying the matches against the CPU? Also, how responsive are the sliders?

# 317 ctr05 @ 11/17/11 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jrider99


	Yeah, the ratings aren't the problem as much as it's the apparent merging of the two rosters. Smackdown guys are wrestling on Raw and Raw guys wrestling on Smackdown. Some might view that as a problem.

I'm just thankful we can edit the card, otherwise that WOULD be kind of annoying.

# 318 jrider99 @ 11/17/11 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ctr05


	oh and I know you answered this before but I don't feel like scrolling through the pages....could I dump the titles on a created wrestler and put him on a dead brand (example: AWA) and have that be the solution to ridding my universe of those extra titles? or does it need to be someone like Arn Anderson and have him get shipped off to AWA. cuz if I can use created wrestlers I'll make a guy named Vacant, then a team of Vacant1 and Vacant 2, and a woman named VacantDiva, give them the titles I have no use for and put them in AWA.

You can use a CAW, but he will be thrown into an angle even if you move him to another brand. You can edit him out of the matches until the angle runs its course, but it has happened every time I've added a CAW to my universe.

# 319 jrider99 @ 11/17/11 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Seymour Scagnetti


	Are SD guys fighting on Raw against the undisputed champion who happens to be from Raw or all they just all merging together fighting on each other's brands in regular matches? Personally I could care less because I find these brand things kinda stupid anyways but I'm sure you will get guys who are gonna freak out over it.

Yeah they are competing in regular matches. And you're right, I'm sure some people will freak out over it, but you can edit everything anyway so it doesn't really matter. I'm discovering that Universe Mode is more of a tool than anything else. It's a way for you to create whatever WWE experience you want. Like I said earlier, you'll get out of it only as much as you put in. The more hands-on you are, the better your experience will be in my opinion.

# 320 jrider99 @ 11/17/11 02:00 AM

Someone earlier asked about sliders. Here they are:

A.I. reversal rate (can adjust higher or lower)
Standing strike
Standing grapple
Ground strike
Ground grapple
Finisher
Weapon

Damage (can adjust higher or lower)
Finisher strength
Weapon strength

General (can adjust higher or lower)
Standing strike reversal
Standing grapple reversal
Ground strike reversal
Ground grapple reversal
Finisher reversal
Weapon reversal
Momentum rate attacks
Momentum rate taunts
Adrenaline rate

In-game options (can be toggled on or off)
Difficulty -- Easy, Normal, Hard, Legend
Reversal damage
Adrenaline
Blood

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