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OS Roundtable: The Player Tendencies Snafu - Short Term Blunder or Long Term Mistake?

04:15 PM - November 3, 2011 by RaychelSnr

OS Staff Writers, by now you have all heard the news about the fourth NCAA title update not including a fix for player tendencies. To some this is an absolutely huge deal and to others it seems as if they are perfectly content with the game as-is. But let's go beyond that; let's discuss whether the string of bugs this year, plus the lack of any patchable resolution will be detrimental to NCAA 13, or will the blunders of NCAA Football 12 be forgotten by many next July?

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# 41 TajDeni @ 11/05/11 01:59 PM

i didnt read thru every post so my apologies if this has already been mentioned...

while player tendencies is a huge issue and the ppl who this effects most have every right to be fed up. what i would like an answer to is how all the media outlets and folks from the community posted all those videos and articles about NCAA 12, yet not 1 person mentioned that custom playbooks was a disaster. seriously how does that happen.

not 1 review that i read about the game mention that custom playbooks was a completely broken feature. how about this, maybe i was content with ncaa 11 but i went out and spent the money on '12 because of the publicized feature of custom playbooks, yet 10's of reviews came out and not 1 review from a major media gameing outlet mentions that custome playbooks doesnt work. can someone involved please explain how something like this is even possible.

1 trip into and 1 exit out of custom playbooks and i knew there was a major problem, i cant speak for anyone else but its gettin to a point if its not already there where the customers cant trust EA or the various outlets to provide us with the truth...

they do realise we work 4 our money dont they...

this is not a rant, i would like an answer, please.

# 42 Playmakers @ 11/06/11 04:54 AM

I used to get upset over NCAA 12.....the game turned out to be more hype than substance this year.

I've pretty much gone back exclusively to NCAA 11 and don't even sweat it no more.

NCAA 11 actually offers up some very solid gameplay and the sliders all work the way they are suppose to work.

So for me personally NCAA 11 & Madden 12 have allowed me to enjoy some football games this year.

Next year i can gurantee myself i won't be buying NCAA 13 on release day. I will waite about 2-4 weeks before i give in because i'm tired of the half @$$ job by this company on their college game. You simply don't know what your going to get from year to year anymore.

# 43 carnalnirvana @ 11/06/11 09:24 AM

its not even about the $65 anymore for me.....i can afford it easily....

its not even about the(new issues)like tendencies being broken, we are already all accustomed to something being broken year to year.....

its about the same issues year to year not being fixed/addressed while something new will be introduced again next year..

i just fix the tendencies for my conference, ncaa has become like an rpg for me i find myself spending more time in menu's(edit player) and grinding trials for my edits than actually playing for fun.... its pathetic

# 44 southriver @ 11/06/11 04:46 PM

I just wish we could get 2 year development cycles instead of "pushing another game out the door" just so EA can get their bank account full. No other Genre puts out a continuing title every year. These developers need time and 1 year is NOT enough.

# 45 canes21 @ 11/06/11 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by southriver


	I just wish we could get 2 year development cycles instead of "pushing another game out the door" just so EA can get their bank account full. No other Genre puts out a continuing title every year. These developers need time and 1 year is NOT enough.

Call of Duty....

# 46 Playmakers @ 11/06/11 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by carnalnirvana


	its not even about the $65 anymore for me.....i can afford it easily.... its not even about the(new issues)like tendencies being broken, we are already all accustomed to something being broken year to year..... its about the same issues year to year not being fixed/addressed while something new will be introduced again next year.. i just fix the tendencies for my conference, ncaa has become like an rpg for me i find myself spending more time in menu's(edit player) and grinding trials for my edits than actually playing for fun.... its pathetic

well for starters i think these issues occur every year because EA IMO doesn't have any real game testers

i honestly believe they use the OS community and few others to be their game testers....from a business standpoint it's smart because you don't have to pay anyone to test your games

From a consumer standpoint it sucks unless your just a casual gamer who doesn't really get into under the hood things

# 47 Radja @ 11/06/11 08:03 PM

this has as much to do with EA as the people who review the game. i traded in a bunch of games for this based on the review so i am not out much. but no review mentioned anything. in fact, with some of the broken features, some reviews hyped them even more than EA.

i will never buy a game (or trade for) based on reviews ever again. that includes OS. their review failed on some pretty big glitches also to meet the deadline. in fact, the simulation and long term dynasty features were given glowing remarks.

# 48 Layoneil @ 11/07/11 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by canes21


	Call of Duty....

CoD has Treyarch and Infinity Ward alternating every 2 years. those games also have very different sales numbers and budgets.

# 49 thelasthurtknee @ 11/07/11 11:59 AM

I agree with alot of what you guys say but I believe that this issue trully comes from the crappy engine built for madden and ncaa very early on in the life of this gen then putting layer upon layer on top of it in coding and never really having the base they needed. I don't buy the tester bs. they have hundreds of testers right her in Baton Rouge. two years ago they found over 300,000 bugs they removed. But you have to remember the testers have a short time and they are trully lookiing for game crashes and coding issues that would cause the game to not work. and yea they missed a few but the testers probably arent looking for things like if a balanced qb turns into a pocket passer when you edit him. but the guys in house who are playing every day and supposed to know football should of caught it. its just layer upon layer of crap until they don't release the game every year. hopefully they learned their lesson and don't rush to release this title on next gen. it was garbage for three years on this gen while they put out the best ncaa titles on ps2 during that time. Ive been playing this title since the bill walsh days and never been so upset with a ncaa title but at the same time it has the most potential of all the games they have ever made. its hard to support such a flawed game. and as far a ben goes, that fat lazy f u c k better get it together because he is a big reason ea tiburon looks like a joke. i find it beyond funny that they made a show of the making of this enormous turd. SEC, got to thank you for your work on trying to make this game playable. I have to play as a OC to use ur sliders without the patches which made it so easy to run the ball even on heisman that the game was unplayable for me. You brought me back in.. much thanks brother. and if someone has a problem with my opinion on ben, grow a pair. that *** clown is a joke of a leader and looked how fast he became invisible when he realized how bad it was. P U S S Y !!!!!!

# 50 BigDuke @ 11/07/11 12:58 PM

I didn't purchase NCAA 12 until after the second patch. Now I wish I hadn't.

I won't be purchasing NCAA 13 on release day, if at all. Will wait to see what/how many bugs will be in that game.

# 51 dan_457 @ 11/07/11 02:17 PM

The problem itself lies in the EA "mothership", and their mentality. It's bled down to all the developers they own, and it shows. EA does not give a single **** about it's customers, and I don't know if some of you have seen the horror stories involving EA's customer service and Origin, but it's bad. At this point all you can expect is the bare minimum from most EA titles, even Battlefield 3 has it's fair share of issues. Until EA actually get's a reality check, nothing, absolutely nothing is going to change.

# 52 LucianoJJ @ 11/07/11 10:42 PM

The best case scenario is to dig in and patch the bugs and slap a NCAA Football 13 label on it for release in July 2012. Fix the option, the CPU AI, psychic DBs, CPU option D, crowd audio, etc. Tiburon won't go with a new engine this gen. That might be more trouble than it's worth. I might go get a copy of NCAA 11 used, not worry about running the option, and just have fun again. NCAA 11 was the best in this gen, IMO.

Overall, it's been a rough year for college football. The conference changes, the exploitation of players, major scandals and poor play in the Big 10...all have tainted the sport.

# 53 mdiggitydawg @ 11/07/11 11:41 PM

excellent read....the sad fact that EA shows no sign of listening to us, the consumer, on these boards is extremely frustrating. I traded mine in 2 weeks ago for a lousy 16.50. I have finally reached the point where I will not purchase 2013 until I know it works...I love the college game...look forward to it...and lately get disappointed by it...no more....I hope the rest of my fellow consumers do the same...rent it from game fly, red box or anywhere else...but DO NOT GIVE YOUR HARD EARNED 60 TO EA FOR CRAP! The only thing that may make them change is to hit them where it hurts, their bottom line...and if they don't change, then they'll just give up. either way...you save your 60 for something else....

# 54 timmg @ 11/07/11 11:42 PM

It would'nt surprise me if the tendencies were hidden from now on....we would'nt know if they changed if they were'nt visible to begin with

# 55 steelernation28 @ 11/08/11 02:26 PM

This generation of EA footall games has been a failure. This was the first NCAA title I bought since '09 (what a bad year thats was) and '12 will be my last in this generation. I traded NCAA and got 20 bucks for it, but I was just happy to get it out of my collection. Every time I looked at it it irked the hell outta me that it was such a frustrating football experience

# 56 huskerwr38 @ 11/08/11 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by timmg


	It would'nt surprise me if the tendencies were hidden from now on....we would'nt know if they changed if they were'nt visible to begin with

That wouldn't surprise me one bit. They will just hide the tendency and say it was fixed. They do things like this all the time where something doesn't work right and they either just remove it or "break" something else so that it isn't so bad. For instance, one year the pursuit angles were so messed up that in order to fix it they added a stutter to the ball carrier on longer runs so that the defense can catch up to them a little easier. What a lazy work around that was.

# 57 Darkeus @ 11/08/11 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Layoneil


	CoD has Treyarch and Infinity Ward alternating every 2 years. those games also have very different sales numbers and budgets.

Infinity Ward does not exist anymore.

Sledgehammer Games made MW3.

And it is the same thing every year....

# 58 Darkeus @ 11/08/11 08:34 PM

This NCAA was a failure. I actually traded it in before Winter was over. I have never done that before in my life.

The game is just bad and I think they may have burned the last bridge. I do not think NCAA 2013 is going to sell very well. I know I am going to wait and sift through the actual complaints and the trivial complaining before I even consider touching NCAA 13. I hope many others take this stance. EA has to know that we are not going to keep buying the same old crap.

And then I buy NBA 2k12 and now I hear it is broken too or something. What is it with sports games these days? Hell, what is it with game companies these days? Too much reliance on first day patches (Even Skyrim is getting a first day patch, just sad.) Why the hell are we paying 60 bucks to beta test games? Patches have become a crutch in the larger scheme of gaming. The culture of game development has become stagnant.

# 59 Kingfish @ 11/08/11 10:36 PM

I am with most on here, IF I buy NCAA13 it will be used. I won't be paying EA for anything until I hear what some honest reviews have to say...and if thats December, so be it.

EA needs an enema...

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