05:41 PM - October 20, 2011 by Steve_OS
EA Sports released another NHL 12 tuner update this morning. Check below for the details.
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05:41 PM - October 20, 2011 by Steve_OSEA Sports released another NHL 12 tuner update this morning. Check below for the details.
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there is a solution to this:
EA creates a definitive "HARDCORE" style of play... Yes, that means they need to put some time and effort into creating this, but they are going to lose a fan base (myself included) if they don't make it play like hockey should be played. NBA 2K11 (and into 2K12 - but I don't own 2K12 because I LOVE 2K11) captured this. If you're not a hardcore basketball fan (and maybe not understand like you do hockey) you won't understand what 2K did to nail this high-simulation like effort with their game. The game is created to play hardcore out of the box - slider tweaks can be made for little kids who love NBA Jam and arcade games, but that's NOT 2K's intent with this game.
EA doesn't get this, and I'm about done with this title. The gameplay is too coast-to-coast and just doesn't do it for me...
EA creates a definitive "HARDCORE" style of play... Yes, that means they need to put some time and effort into creating this, but they are going to lose a fan base (myself included) if they don't make it play like hockey should be played. NBA 2K11 (and into 2K12 - but I don't own 2K12 because I LOVE 2K11) captured this. If you're not a hardcore basketball fan (and maybe not understand like you do hockey) you won't understand what 2K did to nail this high-simulation like effort with their game. The game is created to play hardcore out of the box - slider tweaks can be made for little kids who love NBA Jam and arcade games, but that's NOT 2K's intent with this game.
EA doesn't get this, and I'm about done with this title. The gameplay is too coast-to-coast and just doesn't do it for me...
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I know the fact I play on Pro level seems comical to some, but with the slider tweaks (jacking up the cpu) it makes a tough brand of competitive hockey. But with that said, it still looks NOTHING LIKE real hockey...and again, no fun. In the end, no matter what level you play or slider tweaks you make, we all lose...
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Not to be nitpicky, but this is why EA will never fix this. A couple posts above you stated, "Is it anywhere near realistic? No..."
The dichotomy of your two posts is confusing... You say it's "not realistic" and then you say it's the "most realistic" hockey game you've played.
Please don't be upset with me, but many posters here will read those two comments and see them as head-scratchers that say two of the most opposing comments one could make...
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phillyfan23 @ 10/26/11 03:21 PM
the game is flawed big time, and has been flawed big time for the pas 2-3 years now.
I will give you one example:
passing
the cpu is just too accurate with it. No ifs ands or buts. I don't see a cpu player making missed passes where the pass just misses everyone. When a cpu pass is unsuccessful it is due to the human intercepting. If the human didn't intercept the pass, the pass would have hit the cpu's teammate on the tape.
Passing accuracy rating is MEANINGLESS. You just don't see a missed pass like when the human misses a pass. On the PP and the human forward tries to pass back to the point and it misses the cpu d-men altogether ending up all the way down ice.
Just this problem alone is enough for me to rate this game bad, because passing, to me, is the most important aspect of this sport. From defending, transitions, and for goals. What is the point of playing with Gretzky, Adam Oates, etc when I can use Maxime talbot, Jody Shelly, Aaron Asham to achieve the same pass accuracy....all will hit their target on the tape.
Basically if you are playing Madden, passing the ball using Aaron Rodgers will feel no different than passing the ball with the 3rd string QB of the Miami Dolphins....imagine the uproar.
I will give you one example:
passing
the cpu is just too accurate with it. No ifs ands or buts. I don't see a cpu player making missed passes where the pass just misses everyone. When a cpu pass is unsuccessful it is due to the human intercepting. If the human didn't intercept the pass, the pass would have hit the cpu's teammate on the tape.
Passing accuracy rating is MEANINGLESS. You just don't see a missed pass like when the human misses a pass. On the PP and the human forward tries to pass back to the point and it misses the cpu d-men altogether ending up all the way down ice.
Just this problem alone is enough for me to rate this game bad, because passing, to me, is the most important aspect of this sport. From defending, transitions, and for goals. What is the point of playing with Gretzky, Adam Oates, etc when I can use Maxime talbot, Jody Shelly, Aaron Asham to achieve the same pass accuracy....all will hit their target on the tape.
Basically if you are playing Madden, passing the ball using Aaron Rodgers will feel no different than passing the ball with the 3rd string QB of the Miami Dolphins....imagine the uproar.
# 46
phillyfan23 @ 10/27/11 05:27 PM
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The cpu will hit their pass on the tape all the time if the human doesn't intercept. This aspect alone makes the game arcade and not realistic.
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My son [27 years old] is one of the 95% of the sales you mentioned. He enjoys the game as much as I do, and yep... he very messes with sliders or visits NHL message boards. And is excellent at the game.
Where as for me...I really enjoy being on our board, and even enjoy farting around with the sliders to try to find the gameplay I prefer. And yet we have a common ground...we both love the game. And have a blast playing together!
Also I do agree about the game being a video game...not a simulator. Even though it's referred to as such. Which imo, is a bit of a stretch by the company, and leaves themselves open to criticism. Of course it is only my opinion but...I do believe EA Canada has done a pretty decent job of developing a hockey game that can be enjoyed by most. As long as your not looking for a true simulation of the sport. Not too sure any "video game" has gotten to that point yet. Some closer than others I suppose. But I doubt absolute true sim.
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This is what's known as an "opinion" and not "fact." You can take your subtle dig at me all you want, but the truth is no one knows this for sure. But in the end it doesn't matter....
Its sad how longs its taking this patch to come out. Late October is almost over.
Who will be mad if the patch is released the same time as the jersey codes(meaning it could have been ready weeks before,but they just released both at the same time)
Who will be mad if the patch is released the same time as the jersey codes(meaning it could have been ready weeks before,but they just released both at the same time)
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savoie2006 @ 10/29/11 01:18 AM
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# 53
phillyfan23 @ 10/29/11 01:37 AM
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cpu just don't miss their passes. Look at all gameplay footage on the net, everything tape to tape.
And this is not a difficulty level issue. I edited all the cpu players to have the lowest possible passing accuracy rating and even that made ZERO difference on how the cpu completed passes. ( tape to tape all the time).....with the lowest pass accuracy rating for all cpu players, they should be flat out having a hard time connecting simple and medium difficulty passes.
The rating is worthless for the cpu team, everyone passes with the same accuracy thus making Joe thornton feel the same as Aaron Asham in the passing department.
Do you not agree that this is a huge fundamental flaw making the game much less realistic and arcade??
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savoie2006 @ 10/29/11 01:55 AM
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And/or, the slider was more effective.
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