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Digital Trends has posted their NBA 2K12 hands-on preview.

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There are other new features in the game, such as having the ability to interact with fans, and shot reviews. At one point during one of the games, my opponent went for a three-pointer as the clock zeroed out. He nailed the basket, but it was so close to the wire that the shot went up for review. It was ultimately ruled against — the shot was close, but we all saw on the replay that the ball left his fingers after the clock ran out — and I won because of it. It’s a nice added touch for a simulation that already receives high marks from fans and critics.

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# 21 VDusen04 @ 08/24/11 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by flamangatang2k5
and I see what you and @VD are getting at with adding the entire team roster, but i disagree that it's more exciting. 2k used to have guys like Bird, Magic, Ewing, and David Thompson all wearing their authentic old school uniforms a few years ago. So that's nothing new. I think they made a mistake taking that part away. What I'm not interested in is playing with guys like Doug Christie, Bobby Hansen, M.L. Carr, Michael Thompson, John Salley, and Kenny Sky Walker.
I would prefer more legends be added. Guys like Ronaldo Blackman, Jack Sikma, Kevin Johnson, and Lafayette "Fat" Lever.
But either way works for me. As long as the game play is good and players play like their true likeness.
I definitely see where you're coming from. I think it's just a differing in opinions is all. For me personally, I was legitimately pumped to see the inclusion of players like Rick Mahorn, Sean Elliott, Kurt Rambis and Mark Aguirre. That's the draw for me. There just seems to be a limit to what a gamer can do with a giant pile of legends on their own. You can play an All-Decade game, or an All-Time game, and maybe do a fantasy draft, but those options appear limited and shallow (and altogether unappealing in my regard).

Meanwhile, actual classic teams, classic courts, classic jerseys, classic signature styles, classic tube socks, classic facial hair appears to be infinitely more in-depth than anything previous legend teams ever offered. A lot of the draw for me in video games is the immersion and ability to somehow bridge the gap between fantasy and reality. With only legends and no supporting qualities, it just all felt too fictional. 2K12's step into history will help bridge that gap.
 
# 22 ffaacc03 @ 08/24/11 10:09 PM
Indeed, different flavors to different tastes ... for me, having these teams with those role players and fillers is the ultimate utopy ... those "lesser" players combined with the back then stars to form what we now call "legends" ... they were an integral and almost indivisible part of those players achievement ... MJ would have not been GOAT without the likes of Cartwright, Paxon, Kerr, Longley and so the others ... if any, I would love to see more teams.
 
# 23 VDusen04 @ 08/24/11 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AbdulP34
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Is the shot review ONLY for the legends mode?????
or any quick game match with modern teams?????
Actually, I think the better question would be whether the buzzer beater review is correctly only going to utilized in current games or if it's going to leak into the legends mode. With the depth of 2K's rule adjustments (no three point line prior to '80, the implementation of the 3-to-make-2 rule), I can't see 2K allowing the official reviews in the legends mode.
 
# 24 clipperfan811 @ 08/24/11 10:13 PM
It's funny because just last night I popped in 2k7 just for a old time's sake and I played a game of 70's West vs 70's East. Let me tell you how that was not very fun. For one the graphical difference is beyond night and day. You also have the generic Jerseys but the biggest thing to me is that they just didn't feel authentic. The guys at 2k have done an amazing job at implementing tendencies and signature moves over the past two years.

I really hope that they've had the chance to focus on those small details (which they 9 times out of 10 surprise me with). I hope when I play against Pistol Pete he's treating every game like an all-star game and when I play against the Big O he's backing me down and shooting his little turn around.

In the past we've had the names and likenesses (at least sort of) of past stars but with what 2ks been doing lately, now it seems as if they found a way to bottle up their souls and let us play to our hearts content.
 
# 25 Da_Czar @ 08/24/11 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AbdulP34
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Is the shot review ONLY for the legends mode?????
or any quick game match with modern teams?????
Its for all modes AFAIK. I saw it in games with regular teams. I didn't know it was in the game so when it happened it was HOTT ! really well done. Adds a lot to the immersive factor especially in a close down to the wire game.

EDIT I don't recall seeing it in the classic team mode though
 
# 26 Rasco11 @ 08/24/11 10:25 PM
Would have been cool touch to add Earl Strom as "legend" ref!
 
# 27 Aces15 @ 08/24/11 11:05 PM
I was playing a crazy game with someone else that came right down to the wire, and we were talking about how great it would be if they added in review for buzzer beaters like they had in Live 05. The feeling of joy (or despair) when you find out the result of the game... man it's crazy. Glad they got this into 2K12.
 
# 28 sportjames23 @ 08/24/11 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Da_Czar
NBA’s Greatest mode could go a long way toward getting people who have been off basketball games back into them.

I think some people really underestimate the power of this line right here. People chasing newer and younger sales for games sometimes forget that the older demographic once supported an entire industry all by themselves. I.E you can actually increase sales by catering to them also. It not just about getting 9 year old timmy hooked.
This. Right. Here.
 
# 29 sportjames23 @ 08/24/11 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by VDusen04
In my opinion, there is a very sharp contrast between having All-Decade teams where legends are available for use on All-Star teams all wearing generic "All-70's" uniforms and what 2K12 is offering this year. For me, it's not the same area code. It's not the same state. It may not even be the same planet.

I suppose I'd pose this question in hopes of creating an understanding: If 2K did not offer 30 current NBA teams and instead only provided a 2011 East and West All-Star roster, would you be satisfied?

Even when 2K opened up those All-Decade teams and allowed each legend to be sent to whatever team we chose, the idea of assigning Julius Erving to the current 76ers with long shorts and a fresh pair of Hyperdunks was still very fantastical and unauthentic. Again, picture if the only Kevin Durant available in 2K11 was one wearing short shorts, Chuck Taylors, and an old Sonics jersey. Technically Kevin Durant would be in the game, but clearly something major would be amiss (and imagine not being able to use him alongside his Thunder teammates). 2K12's approach is the way to incorporate legends. It couldn't possibly be any further from the idea of being a mere "repackaging". This is a revolution.

As always, well said, V.
 
# 30 sportjames23 @ 08/24/11 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Da_Czar
Flamang I see your point but for people who loved that era of hoops just having one off legends with fake uni's and current courts is a far cry from what they are bringing to the table this year. The era specific broadcast packages to boot.

I have no idea of your gaming history fam but for a good amount of us over 30 gamers we kind of got cheated. I mean you had a ton of the best players in the history of the game playing when video games were fairly mediocre.

For us to have our favorite teams with next gen graphics and working crossovers, deep association and season options and all the other bells and whistles that current games come with, but with the players and teams of the NBA back in what most consider it's heyday. It's almost like a rebirth of sorts. A renewing of the reason some of us Love playing games so much.

There was almost nothing sim about those old games in comparison to the AI we are playing with now.

VD summed it up much better than this rambling mess I posted. LOL

Both Czar and V speak for me on this. Being from the same generation of gamers as them, I can attest to feeling kinda cheated of playing with the best players/teams when we were growing up on, compared to todays consoles/PCs, prehistoric systems and whatnot.

Hell, I think hokup posted an embed of Bulls vs Blazers on the Sega Genesis. You want to know why us older gamers (hell, I'm only 38) are happy as a pig in slop over 2K11 and 2K12, just go search YouTube for that game (or Lakers vs Celtics or Bulls vs Lakers) and see what we had to deal with. I'm mean, those games were great for their time, but current games absolutely destroy them.
 
# 31 VDusen04 @ 08/24/11 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sportjames23
. . .just go search YouTube for that game (or Lakers vs Celtics or Bulls vs Lakers) and see what we had to deal with. I'm mean, those games were great for their time, but current games absolutely destroy them.
 
# 32 sportjames23 @ 08/24/11 11:29 PM
LOL! That move by Chambers was unstoppable!
 
# 33 Mr_Riddick @ 08/24/11 11:30 PM
I remember that video of him dunking on the whole Celtics team 
 
# 34 Rasco11 @ 08/24/11 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by VDusen04
At least they got Majerle's orange skin tone right!

Those were the days! One star per team had a signature move...if you wanted to keep stats you had to do it on a notepad! Don't think I didn't either. I would do seasons.
 
# 35 youvalss @ 08/24/11 11:33 PM
When someone posts at the "Basketball-Other" forum about a game from 15-20 years ago and say "It's the best basketball game ever!", I get to think about it and always come to the same conclusion: to me, the best game ever means that it's a game I would pay for full CURRENT price. In other words: As great as some of these oldies were back then - would you pay $60 for it today? If not, how can it be the best ever?

Just my 0.02.
 
# 36 flamangatang2k5 @ 08/24/11 11:44 PM
Honestly I don't even know why I'm bugging, maybe i'm just playing Devils Advocate. Because growing up in the 80's/90's I prefer that era of basketball any day over todays players/era.

Would be cool to start a season with the legends teams. maybe even an online league.

And seeing that video of Tom chambers double pump reminds me of how far basketball games have come. No crossovers, no behind the back, spin moves were done manually, passing out the air was no an option, no signature anything except for the one (or two if you're Jordan) move for each superstar. Yeah these games have come a long way
 
# 37 VDusen04 @ 08/24/11 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rasco11
At least they got Majerle's orange skin tone right!

Those were the days! One star per team had a signature move...if you wanted to keep stats you had to do it on a notepad! Don't think I didn't either. I would do seasons.
Yup, NBA Showdown '94's primary draw to me was custom haircuts. The minute I saw screenshots of a blonde Dennis Rodman and buzzed Chris Mullin in GamePlayer's magazine, I was all in.
 
# 38 Marino @ 08/24/11 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Da_Czar
NBA’s Greatest mode could go a long way toward getting people who have been off basketball games back into them.

I think some people really underestimate the power of this line right here. People chasing newer and younger sales for games sometimes forget that the older demographic once supported an entire industry all by themselves. I.E you can actually increase sales by catering to them also. It not just about getting 9 year old timmy hooked.
Giving us probably the best Charlotte Hornets team ever will guarantee a good amount of buys from Charlotte. Just for nostalgia alone.
 
# 39 VDusen04 @ 08/24/11 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Marino
Giving us probably the best Charlotte Hornets team ever will guarantee a good amount of buys from Charlotte. Just for nostalgia alone.
I believed the hype.
 
# 40 Da_Czar @ 08/25/11 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Rasco11
At least they got Majerle's orange skin tone right!

Those were the days! One star per team had a signature move...if you wanted to keep stats you had to do it on a notepad! Don't think I didn't either. I would do seasons.
amen brother I probably still have some remnants of my old "statbooks" ROTFLOL I knew I was alone !


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