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Exclusive NHL 12 Producer Blog: Online Innovations

09:50 PM - August 4, 2011 by ChaseB

Operation Sports is happy to bring you an exclusive look at the changes that are being made to NHL 12's EASHL and Hockey Ultimate Team (HUT) modes. EA Canada developers Andy Agostini and Nate Ng will be detailing the changes to these popular features.

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	Hey everyone, we have a lot cooking in the NHL 12 Online Innovations Blog and we�re really excited about it, so let�s get to it! Producers Andy Agostini and Nate Ng will be breaking down what�s new and improved in the HUT and EASHL modes. Enjoy!

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# 21 jyoung @ 08/05/11 01:24 PM

Definitely not feeling the way they are forcing you to grind through 300 games to get your skater and goalie legend card separately.

They should be doing everything they can to get people to want to play goalie, not pushing them away from playing it.

I may actually play HUT more than EASHL this year now that Play a Friend has been added to HUT.

Very pleased that they added that!

# 22 fenster24 @ 08/05/11 02:13 PM

I see that you can lose XP when you play poorly. Does this also mean that you rank DOWN? For example, is it possible to go from Veteran 1 down to Pro 3, therefore losing attribute points?

# 23 FBeaule04 @ 08/05/11 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wEEman33


	Definitely not feeling the way they are forcing you to grind through 300 games to get your skater and goalie legend card separately. They should be doing everything they can to get people to want to play goalie, not pushing them away from playing it. I may actually play HUT more than EASHL this year now that Play a Friend has been added to HUT. Very pleased that they added that!

Oh, don't be affraid about that goalie thing. In one month, someone will put the card online and you'll be able to mod it so you have their boost and profile, so you can tweak your goalie like he as played 150 games. That's not to mention the XP glitch we're going to get later after someone find the door left open in that version of the game.

If the BaP thing is as good they entertain us, I might also spend a lot less time playing online with glitchers and cheaters, while getting most out of the mode and the fact that HUT can now be played against friends.

# 24 FBeaule04 @ 08/05/11 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AutoMG


	Lol, that is good for you people on the box but they protected the profiles on the PS3, so we on the PS3 don't get that luxury and we don't get all the same glitches you do on the PS3 either.

Yep, I know. The advantage of beeing on the XBOX is that the community is larger but in counterpart, we have more morons, cheaters and glitchers.

At least, on the PS3 side, you know you are playing with a level field instead of always trying to figure if you're playing a cheater.

# 25 ganstakid19 @ 08/05/11 03:02 PM

The different position builds is a great addition!! They shouldve also added were each team had its own set of computer players so theyre all different but you always played with the same set of computers

# 26 ganstakid19 @ 08/05/11 03:03 PM

Great addition with the seperate position sets....but they should also make it so the computer AI's you play with when you dont have 6 players should always be the same where each team has its own set of AI's

# 27 Trevelyan @ 08/05/11 03:59 PM

I'm just hoping that for a change they store all your player info on their servers rather than saves on your console, so people won't be able to juice and copy legend cards.

As someone who plays goalie and skater at a high level, I was kinda disappointed that I'll have to get the goalie legend card, but after I thought about it a little bit I like it. It should put more of a skill gap between average and really good goalies.

# 28 FBeaule04 @ 08/05/11 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevelyan


	I'm just hoping that for a change they store all your player info on their servers rather than saves on your console, so people won't be able to juice and copy legend cards. As someone who plays goalie and skater at a high level, I was kinda disappointed that I'll have to get the goalie legend card, but after I thought about it a little bit I like it. It should put more of a skill gap between average and really good goalies.

That's the only thing you can do about that.

3 years of EASHL and 3 years of various glitching, cheesing, cheating and boosting.

Want to bet it's going to change in NHL 12? When it happens once, it may be a coincidence, but 3 years in a row? There's cheaters in the dev team of NHL game that left a door open so they can have an advantage over the community.

If there's nothing in NHL 12, I'll revert my saying, but until then, history prove that it's the case.

# 29 Tea_Bag_Frenzy @ 08/05/11 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FBeaule04


	That's the only thing you can do about that. 3 years of EASHL and 3 years of various glitching, cheesing, cheating and boosting. Want to bet it's going to change in NHL 12? When it happens once, it may be a coincidence, but 3 years in a row? There's cheaters in the dev team of NHL game that left a door open so they can have an advantage over the community. If there's nothing in NHL 12, I'll revert my saying, but until then, history prove that it's the case.

Glitching and cheesing cannot be put into the same category as cheating and boosting.

As a computer programmer in the business, I know that there will always be exploits such as glitches and what you call 'cheese' unless you eliminate all AI players. This is because you have to give the AI players the ability to score on AI Goalies.

Creating an algorithm for this to occur without making the Goalie AI vulnerable is nearly impossible. It would be a brilliant achievement to create the AI interactions that simulate 'intelligent' goal scoring rather than pre-scripted goal scoring. It is such a complicated process that it becomes too hard to explain without getting into the real technical weeds of the AI development.

I agree with you on the boosting and the cheating, which has to go. But to avoid the glitchers the best solution has always been to play 6 vs 6 using human goalies.

# 30 anndroo @ 08/05/11 06:30 PM

CLUB SCOUTING = MORE QUITTING

# 31 druez @ 08/05/11 06:53 PM

I think there should be a game mode where you have to have a human goalie in EASHL.

Also where is the ability to use members players as your teammates, if they aren't online so you aren't stuck using the terrible EA ones.

# 32 stew514 @ 08/05/11 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mondoguitar


	Everyone complaining about the "club hopping" rule, find a better team that has 6-8 regular guys so you're never left out and stay on that team. I played with a core group of 4 other guys last year and it was great. I hated club hoppers who joined our team for the playoffs or a few games and then left. At least now there's going to be some accountability and loyalty before simply joining a team without any thought given. I want to see more stable teams that don't fall apart because of club hoppers always looking for something better.

The problem I have with your perspective is there are a couple of different scenarios that make the cool down period kind of a slap in the face. First off if you are actively looking for a club, you find one and play a game and realize these guys are a bunch of dick cheese burgers. So you leave, you find another club that's trying people out but oh wait, you have 2 hours and 41 minutes left before you can join a club.

Also other people have mentioned that not everyone enjoys the multiple dressing rooms for a competitive advantage, some people enjoy it because they don't have to tell people they can't play because the other line is playing right now.

I honestly never viewed club hopping as a big deal, people like to play EASHL rather than deal with the ****sticks that play OTP. I don't understand a system like this at all from EA's point of view, were club hoppers that big a problem that you introduce a system that's going to encourage people not to play your game. If you play for a competitive EASHL club, and you can stomach 3 hours of OTP I give you serious props.

# 33 stew514 @ 08/05/11 07:00 PM

Also EA can never fully combat cheating until they start punishing the people who exploit the system. Now I'm only referring to juicing, because it's a competitive advantage I don't think you can punish people for say scoring the same goal over and over and over. Even if EA only went as far to ban someone's EA Online Pass for violating the terms of service, I still think it would deter some people from doing it. I would love to see them start banning people's gamertags from using the EA servers for juicing.

# 34 Millennium @ 08/05/11 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FBeaule04


	That's the only thing you can do about that. 3 years of EASHL and 3 years of various glitching, cheesing, cheating and boosting. Want to bet it's going to change in NHL 12? When it happens once, it may be a coincidence, but 3 years in a row? There's cheaters in the dev team of NHL game that left a door open so they can have an advantage over the community. If there's nothing in NHL 12, I'll revert my saying, but until then, history prove that it's the case.

Did you seriously just say that the dev team leaves glitches in so they can have an advantage online?

# 35 Diehardfan @ 08/05/11 07:21 PM

Simply put. Just more and more dumb useless crap that 12 and 13 year old kids love. How about a real hockey experience? How about not wasting resources on such innane children's play like HUT? How about making a game that plays like hockey for real hockey players? How about returning the Commishioner Mode so if mature players want to play MATURELY, they can against one another in their OWN leagues? Im sick and tired of the same ridiculous garbage year after year.

# 36 Millennium @ 08/05/11 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Diehardfan


	Simply put. Just more and more dumb useless crap that 12 and 13 year old kids love. How about a real hockey experience? How about not wasting resources on such innane children's play like HUT? How about making a game that plays like hockey for real hockey players? How about returning the Commishioner Mode so if mature players want to play MATURELY, they can against one another in their OWN leagues? Im sick and tired of the same ridiculous garbage year after year.

Myself and my EASHL team are all around 30, and loved HUT.

# 37 stew514 @ 08/05/11 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Diehardfan


	Simply put. Just more and more dumb useless crap that 12 and 13 year old kids love. How about a real hockey experience? How about not wasting resources on such innane children's play like HUT? How about making a game that plays like hockey for real hockey players? How about returning the Commishioner Mode so if mature players want to play MATURELY, they can against one another in their OWN leagues? Im sick and tired of the same ridiculous garbage year after year.

If you want a real hockey experience play real hockey.

# 38 ChaseB @ 08/05/11 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Millennium


	Did you seriously just say that the dev team leaves glitches in so they can have an advantage online?

I believe he called the developers cheaters.

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Originally Posted by Millennium


	Myself and my EASHL team are all around 30, and loved HUT.

Whoa whoa whoa, don't lump me in with the "around 30" crowd. I am 23 sir.

# 39 SinisterAlex @ 08/06/11 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KillHammer


	I'm not liking the changes to OTP at all. I am very skeptical about the part where they said "This new Club Scouting screen will not cause any more pauses than a normal user would make." I feel pausing needs to be removed from the mode completely. Let people check stats between periods and after the game. Not in the middle of the period.

They should make if like FIFA. Where when you hit start, it only affects YOU and only YOU, while everyone else can keep playing. How hard is it to do that?

# 40 KillHammer @ 08/06/11 08:17 PM

I know it's going to be a long game when it starts with a pause screen before the opening face off.

I think a good idea would be to let you skate to the bench and swap out with a cpu team mate for a bit. From there you can access the pause menu, take a bathroom break, or what ever you do without having to delay the whole game.

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