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New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

09:13 AM - May 26, 2011 by Steve_OS

Kotaku's Owen Good chimes in with some of his thoughts surrounding the latest micro-transactions to make their way into NCAA Football 12.

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	There may not be any optimal time to tell gamers about all the microtransactions and DLC for which they can expect to pay extra in an upcoming release. But the official reveal of a game's main features -- the stuff folks expect to come with the $59.99 retail price -- would probably be the least optimal.

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# 61 BenGerman @ 05/26/11 05:08 PM

I don't have a problem with them doing this at all. I do however, have a problem with them announcing it as a new feature, and then making us pay extra. Because now, it will not be a new feature for a lot of us.

# 62 Teddy_Long @ 05/26/11 05:10 PM

odogg, i'll pay extra to have a playable broadcast in a dlc or a zoom vertical cam........ lol

btw, love the new dreads? hehe

# 63 poopoop @ 05/26/11 05:12 PM

Good to see kotaku speak out against this. Someone has to, because apparently a lot of people enjoy being charged more. Hopefully more gaming sites do so in the future.

# 64 kevj349 @ 05/26/11 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Scooby803


	You must not have read my whole reply

I read it and I was just saying that the things we are talking about are really ad ons. I didn't think anyone was talking about the DLC from last year, kinda irrelevant to this talk.

# 65 Bullet Sponge @ 05/26/11 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kevj349


	I feel like these is actually a ton of competition. If you aren't happy with the game then go out and buy something else. Sure there aren't other NCAA football games but why not buy another genre? It is kinda like music, this may be the only one of this style, but you may like another style more. There is a ton of competition against video games in general. Complain your heart out and just play Mass Effect or Skyrim when it comes out untill they do what you want

The problem with that argument is it casts all media of a certain type as the same thing, but it's not. If I love Jazz music I'm not going to be just as happy buying Death Metal. Same goes for games. Just because I enjoy NCAA Football video games does not in any way mean I'd enjoy a first person shooter simply because they're both video games. Or that if I like Romantic Comedy films I could as easily swap it out for Transformers 3. There is no competition in the football arena for EA simply because the licenses are exclusively theirs.

# 66 roadman @ 05/26/11 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by poopoop


	Good to see kotaku speak out against this. Someone has to, because apparently a lot of people enjoy being charged more.

Why should I be bothered by something I won't pay for and use? If others want to pay for this extra feature, no problems with that.

Vanilla cone or dipped chocolate cone? If I want something extra than a vanilla cone, I will be charged 30cents more for the dipped chocolate cone.

Not a hard concept to digest, no pun intended.

A little to do about nothing.

# 67 kevj349 @ 05/26/11 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullet Sponge


	The problem with that argument is it casts all media of a certain type as the same thing, but it's not. If I love Jazz music I'm not going to be just as happy buying Death Metal. Same goes for games. Just because I enjoy NCAA Football video games does not in any way mean I'd enjoy a first person shooter simply because they're both video games. Or that if I like Romantic Comedy films I could as easily swap it out for Transformers 3. There is no competition in the football arena for EA simply because the licenses are exclusively theirs.

EA doesn't own NCAA football rights, only Madden. There are other football games. Backbreaker, Blitz, not all are new but they are there and could be made. Don't blame EA for making a good game that no one else can compete with. The market is too small for someone to make another NCAA game. I'm not saying you can swap NCAA out for just any game, but you can look for an alternative. I like the Beatles, it is too expensive so I look for something similar, or just try to find something else I like.

# 68 poopoop @ 05/26/11 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kevj349


	Which brings me to another question, if this is such a problem is COD releasing map packs bad? They could have just waited a little to release the game and add them. What determines what goes into the original $60? Oblivion had like a whole expansion pack you could buy. If EA released the game then released these features a month or so later would you be upset that you had to buy them? I know I am rambling ha

Man Oblivion was released March 27th. 2006. One of their main expansion packs came out 8 months later, the other one like 12 months later. Not talking about a sports game with a one year dev cycle.

That being said they did have some DLC that was questionable, like charging people for horse armor. And they were criticized for doing so.

# 69 poopoop @ 05/26/11 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	Why should I be bothered by something I won't pay for and use? If others want to pay for this extra feature, no problems with that. Vanilla cone or dipped chocolate cone? If I want something extra than a vanilla cone, I will be charged 30cents more for the dipped chocolate cone. Not a hard concept to digest, no pun intended. A little to do about nothing.

UHHH.

You already are. You pay $60 for a game that includes mascot mode, online dynasty, online play now, offline dynasty, offline play now, road to glory... Maybe you're the rare guy who plays each and every one of these modes but I doubt it. Paying for modes you'll never use is pretty common with sports games.

It'd be one thing if there were selling the game a la carte but that's not the case here.

# 70 nonnel @ 05/26/11 05:28 PM

I haven't read through all 8 pages of this thread... but this is just ridiculous.

I'm tired of these video game companies constantly taking advantage of it's consumers, and EA is the biggest offender. First, with releasing games completely full of bugs since they can just "patch" it later when they feel like it... and now with the trend of charging even more money for "extras" when the games are becoming more inferior than the last.

I've gradually switched away from EA over the past few years without even noticing. Not to take some sort of stand, but apparently just as an unsatisfied customer. I skipped NHL and Madden this year (which I've bought every year since I was a little kid), and went to 2k for the NBA years ago. Even with no alternative, I think I'll probably save the 60+ bucks and skip NCAA this year too.

Good luck in the future, EA.

# 71 roadman @ 05/26/11 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by poopoop


	UHHH. You already are. You pay $60 for a game that includes mascot mode, online dynasty, online play now, offline dynasty, offline play now, road to glory... Maybe you're the rare guy who plays each and every one of these modes but I doubt it.

I pay $60.00 for every game on this generation, it's the same money I paid for a Magic Johnson basketball game 25 yrs ago on NES that didn't have any other modes, but one, and it was crap and had Pepsi advertisement all over the place.

Sorry, don't play mascot mode, just 1 or 2 times for kicks, but the other modes I do.

# 72 ryan36 @ 05/26/11 05:34 PM

Doesn't bother me one bit. Play all your games you don't need to advance online. It's a new feature for the same price as last year's game. It's like buying an extra option on a car

# 73 nonnel @ 05/26/11 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kevj349


	EA doesn't own NCAA football rights, only Madden. There are other football games. Backbreaker, Blitz, not all are new but they are there and could be made. Don't blame EA for making a good game that no one else can compete with. The market is too small for someone to make another NCAA game. I'm not saying you can swap NCAA out for just any game, but you can look for an alternative. I like the Beatles, it is too expensive so I look for something similar, or just try to find something else I like.

EA has name brand recognition due to their early years of game development. The reason others can't compete isn't because of the awesome quality of video game they're putting out these days. That's laughable. They have the money, the promotion and recognition to put others out of business. It's as simple as that. And while that's all fair and good, they've rested on the laurels and put out inferior products consistently to NO advantage to the consumer. It's not illegal, or even unfair for that matter... but it certainly isn't good for us.

# 74 NBASLAM2001 @ 05/26/11 05:36 PM

How much is play now mode gonna cost?

# 75 MrJ2006 @ 05/26/11 05:39 PM

What people are failing to see, you get a free week to try it out. How about praising EA a little bit for that? How many companies allow you to test drive their DLC before you purchase it? I can't think of any. You get those 7 days to decide if the money for the add on to the game is worth it. It's not the worst thing to happen. All you people that are fed up with this, don't buy the game. Hell people are working on the 2012 rosters for last years game, just keep that and miss out on all the other new features then.

# 76 RustyBlue @ 05/26/11 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kevj349


	I read it and I was just saying that the things we are talking about are really ad ons. I didn't think anyone was talking about the DLC from last year, kinda irrelevant to this talk.

And how is it irrelevant? It's almost the exact same situation but with different features...

# 77 poopoop @ 05/26/11 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MrJ2006


	What people are failing to see, you get a free week to try it out. How about praising EA a little bit for that? How many companies allow you to test drive their DLC before you purchase it? I can't think of any. You get those 7 days to decide if the money for the add on to the game is worth it. It's not the worst thing to happen. All you people that are fed up with this, don't buy the game. Hell people are working on the 2012 rosters for last years game, just keep that and miss out on all the other new features then.

Part of it is a marketing tactic, hoping to hook people in that first week, so when the trial runs out they end up buying it.

# 78 RustyBlue @ 05/26/11 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kevj349


	EA doesn't own NCAA football rights, only Madden. There are other football games. Backbreaker, Blitz, not all are new but they are there and could be made. Don't blame EA for making a good game that no one else can compete with. The market is too small for someone to make another NCAA game. I'm not saying you can swap NCAA out for just any game, but you can look for an alternative. I like the Beatles, it is too expensive so I look for something similar, or just try to find something else I like.

Actually they did own exclusive NCAA Football rights up until this year.

# 79 thelasthurtknee @ 05/26/11 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nonnel


	I haven't read through all 8 pages of this thread... but this is just ridiculous. I'm tired of these video game companies constantly taking advantage of it's consumers, and EA is the biggest offender. First, with releasing games completely full of bugs since they can just "patch" it later when they feel like it... and now with the trend of charging even more money for "extras" when the games are becoming more inferior than the last. I've gradually switched away from EA over the past few years without even noticing. Not to take some sort of stand, but apparently just as an unsatisfied customer. I skipped NHL and Madden this year (which I've bought every year since I was a little kid), and went to 2k for the NBA years ago. Even with no alternative, I think I'll probably save the 60+ bucks and skip NCAA this year too. Good luck in the future, EA.

Name me a NCAA game that didnt' have bugs. you know that at the testing center each year over 500,000 bugs are reported and fixed? this is the same with most games they will have bugs but thank god we can fix them now with updates. so before patches the games were just as bad. i can think of some many issues in old versions that we were stuck with. now we are not. we get tuner packs and patches now and guys are working every day on these for a few months after the release when they used to just move on to the next game. you should be thankfull. in no way is this a bad thing. Tuners and patches are free so they arent taking advantage. NCAA was great last year and will be again so you lose on that one if you don't by. also we are talking bandwith which is not free. so they could just let us have one ONLINE DYNASTY which is enough for most but they give you OPTION to purchase the ability to have more. you don't have to but you can. options are good. games have not inflated in price since this generation came out but everything else we buy has. So be thankful.

# 80 MrJ2006 @ 05/26/11 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by poopoop


	Part of it is a marketing tactic, hoping to hook people in that first week, so when the trial runs out they end up buying it.

That's fine, you still get to test it yourself before you spend your money, where all other DLC you have to buy it, and if you don't like it, oh well. No refunds.

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