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NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playbooks

03:11 PM - May 9, 2011 by Solidice

The Gaming Tailgate has posted all sorts of NCAA Football 12 custom playbook information. Here is a bullet list, but head on over to get more details.

Total plays - The max number is 377, but it varies between 370-377 based on the team's base playbook.
Playbooks - 15 on offense 15 on defense
40 formations total
Can be used in Online Dynasty and ranked/unranked online games
Goal line and Special teams are in each playbook
...Also, I found this to be pretty handy, but your Custom Playbooks will show up after the Z's and before the A's in the order at the team selection screen. I think this is handier than alphabetical order because it will group all of your custom playbooks back-to-back so you can easily go from one to the other (when you have defaulted one of your custom playbooks as your default playbook).
...unfortunately there won't be any easy way to share custom playbooks. I'm not sure if you will be able to transfer save files or something between consoles or not but there is no dedicated online sharing like rosters has.

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# 81 The JareBear @ 05/10/11 03:16 PM

That's awesome.

# 82 rollinphat @ 05/10/11 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by smace767


	Ok the community day guys just posted Special teams, Hail Mary and Goaline are all inclusive and 3 separate formations. The variation in plays depends on your default. If you choose florida as the base, you will have the 3 Florida formations that are locked. Goaline, Special teams, and Hailmary. Those formations will have all of the different alignments and type formations for that team inside. All special teams plays and alignments are in the special teams, same with goaline and hailmary. So 37 is the max user defined formations.

last i heard was that you didn't have to have the hailmary formation.
the only formations you are forced to have are the goalline and special teams.
so...it's really 38 is the max.

# 83 mattbooty @ 05/10/11 03:19 PM

I'm sort of with some of the other guys in thinking this could take a lot of realism out of the game. I'm not complaining about it, I think custom playbooks are great, I'm just concerned they are allowing too many different / diverse formations into a playbook.

College teams' gameday playbooks are much smaller than even the playbooks we use in NCAA 11. Normally a team will have a playbook about the size of NCAA 11 (but based on a certain philosophy or style) and then based on the team they play each week they trim it down. The reason is that the players (being college kids and of a wide variety of skill levels, this is not the pros) are just incapable of learning a huge playbook with various sets and styles and be able to accurately run them each week.

Now, I would be all for allowing a wide range of formations in a custom playbook IF there was some sort of awareness penalty or practice schedule... essentially during the week in a dynasty have to select X number of formations to practice and any other formations you take an awareness hit when you call them in that week's game. Just brainstorming but that would make this realistic... so if you run all of your plays out of similar formations that fit your team's style, you get no awareness loss each week but you have a less diverse offense, and vice versa you could have a wildly diverse playbook to try to catch your opponent off guard but your players are unable to run all of those plays consistently well. Look at Cam Newton... Auburn ran a very limited playbook because he was just incapable of knowing a large number of plays, but was so athletically gifted they had to keep him on the field.

# 84 schumj @ 05/10/11 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattbooty


	I'm sort of with some of the other guys in thinking this could take a lot of realism out of the game. I'm not complaining about it, I think custom playbooks are great, I'm just concerned they are allowing too many different / diverse formations into a playbook. College teams' gameday playbooks are much smaller than even the playbooks we use in NCAA 11. Normally a team will have a playbook about the size of NCAA 11 (but based on a certain philosophy or style) and then based on the team they play each week they trim it down. The reason is that the players (being college kids and of a wide variety of skill levels, this is not the pros) are just incapable of learning a huge playbook with various sets and styles and be able to accurately run them each week. Now, I would be all for allowing a wide range of formations in a custom playbook IF there was some sort of awarness penalty or practice schedule... essentially during the week in a dynasty have to select X number of formations to practice and any other formations you take an awareness hit when you call them in that week's game. Just brainstorming but that would make this realistic... so if you run all of your plays out of similar formations that fit your team's style, you get no awareness loss each week but you have a less diverse offense, and vice versa you could have a wildly diverse playbook to try to catch your opponent off guard but your players are unable to run all of those plays consistently well.

Agree! One thing I loved about NFL Head Coach game was that you had to practice and the plays you practiced effected how they played in a game. The game itself failed but there were so many great things about it like that which I think would add a lot to NCAA. This would reduce the amount that custom playbooks could be abused per se. Give a limited amount of plays or time for each practice, and you would have to choose what to implement or work on during practices. Much more realistic as just like in real life you have to spread out what you work on throughout your week of practice, spring ball, etc.

# 85 illwill10 @ 05/10/11 03:24 PM

I agree that it would be unsim to have formations that doesnt match. Especially if a person uses it online.
My Run Playbook wont have any Air Raid plays, 5 wide sets, complicated passing plays. I will have alot of running formation(no wishbone or triple optionS). I willl formations like Maryland I, House, Full House, I forms and Shot gun(mostly run plays).
But I feel if a person buys a game, they can do what they want. They could have Wing T and 5 Wides only. Mainly because I will never play them anyway. I dont play Online at all and dont plan too

# 86 rollinphat @ 05/10/11 03:25 PM

I really don't see what the problem is.
If your in a sim league then your still going to be in a sim league, because that's what you and everybody else in your league wants to do. If your not in a sim league then you can create whatever your heart desires. This is about you the user being able to create whatever offense you want instead of having to settle for something that is the closest to what you want to do. This feature is long over due.

I guess the Air Force playbook is unrealistic since it has shotgun, i form and flexbone in it
hahaahahaha

# 87 smace767 @ 05/10/11 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattbooty


	I'm sort of with some of the other guys in thinking this could take a lot of realism out of the game. I'm not complaining about it, I think custom playbooks are great, I'm just concerned they are allowing too many different / diverse formations into a playbook. College teams' gameday playbooks are much smaller than even the playbooks we use in NCAA 11. Normally a team will have a playbook about the size of NCAA 11 (but based on a certain philosophy or style) and then based on the team they play each week they trim it down. The reason is that the players (being college kids and of a wide variety of skill levels, this is not the pros) are just incapable of learning a huge playbook with various sets and styles and be able to accurately run them each week. Now, I would be all for allowing a wide range of formations in a custom playbook IF there was some sort of awareness penalty or practice schedule... essentially during the week in a dynasty have to select X number of formations to practice and any other formations you take an awareness hit when you call them in that week's game. Just brainstorming but that would make this realistic... so if you run all of your plays out of similar formations that fit your team's style, you get no awareness loss each week but you have a less diverse offense, and vice versa you could have a wildly diverse playbook to try to catch your opponent off guard but your players are unable to run all of those plays consistently well. Look at Cam Newton... Auburn ran a very limited playbook because he was just incapable of knowing a large number of plays, but was so athletically gifted they had to keep him on the field.

we had discussion about playbook size and diversity along with gameplan and practice here http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/for...laybooks/page6

# 88 The JareBear @ 05/10/11 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattbooty


	I'm sort of with some of the other guys in thinking this could take a lot of realism out of the game. I'm not complaining about it, I think custom playbooks are great, I'm just concerned they are allowing too many different / diverse formations into a playbook. College teams' gameday playbooks are much smaller than even the playbooks we use in NCAA 11. Normally a team will have a playbook about the size of NCAA 11 (but based on a certain philosophy or style) and then based on the team they play each week they trim it down. The reason is that the players (being college kids and of a wide variety of skill levels, this is not the pros) are just incapable of learning a huge playbook with various sets and styles and be able to accurately run them each week. Now, I would be all for allowing a wide range of formations in a custom playbook IF there was some sort of awareness penalty or practice schedule... essentially during the week in a dynasty have to select X number of formations to practice and any other formations you take an awareness hit when you call them in that week's game. Just brainstorming but that would make this realistic... so if you run all of your plays out of similar formations that fit your team's style, you get no awareness loss each week but you have a less diverse offense, and vice versa you could have a wildly diverse playbook to try to catch your opponent off guard but your players are unable to run all of those plays consistently well. Look at Cam Newton... Auburn ran a very limited playbook because he was just incapable of knowing a large number of plays, but was so athletically gifted they had to keep him on the field.

This makes a lot of sense, the practice points idea is golden.

This year we will probably have to just deal with the sandbox freedom of the customs but maybe next year they could implement a system like this.

# 89 godylla @ 05/10/11 03:28 PM

Is there a "Playbook Share" like a "Roster Share"?

# 90 The JareBear @ 05/10/11 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by godylla


	Is there a "Playbook Share" like a "Roster Share"?

No, unfortunately

# 91 rollinphat @ 05/10/11 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godylla


	Is there a "Playbook Share" like a "Roster Share"?

no...not at this time.
your playbook is associated with your user profile.

# 92 mattbooty @ 05/10/11 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rollinphat


	I really don't see what the problem is. If your in a sim league then your still going to be in a sim league, because that's what you and everybody else in your league wants to do. If your not in a sim league then you can create whatever your heart desires. This is about you the user being able to create whatever offense you want instead of having to settle for something that is the closest to what you want to do. This feature is long over due. I guess the Air Force playbook is unrealistic since it has shotgun, i form and flexbone in it hahaahahaha

Not at all. That is 3 formations. With this though you could create a playbooks that has a dozen vastly different formations (not just different versions of a formation like shotgun big, trips, 4 wide, etc) like shotgun, i form, flexbone, wishbone, pistol, ace, pro set, strong i, etc...

I'm not arguing that one way is better than the other, I'm just saying for my opinion I like the game to try to stay as true to real college football as possible, and it would be nice if there was some sort of penalty for getting unrealistic with crazy playbooks... not eliminate the opportunity to create them, but add a negative effect for doing it. It would add some strategy to it.

# 93 floppychulo @ 05/10/11 03:38 PM

This is a major announcement and some folks are more concerned about what type of playbook the next guy will have instead of focusing on their own playbook. I don't understand that, lol...

# 94 rollinphat @ 05/10/11 04:03 PM

just for discussions sake...
I think it would cool if your playbook was tied to your QB's awareness rating.
The higher your QB's awareness rating is the more formations and plays you could have in your playbook.

Same for the MLB on defense.

# 95 mpeischl @ 05/10/11 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattbooty


	Not at all. That is 3 formations. With this though you could create a playbooks that has a dozen vastly different formations (not just different versions of a formation like shotgun big, trips, 4 wide, etc) like shotgun, i form, flexbone, wishbone, pistol, ace, pro set, strong i, etc... I'm not arguing that one way is better than the other, I'm just saying for my opinion I like the game to try to stay as true to real college football as possible, and it would be nice if there was some sort of penalty for getting unrealistic with crazy playbooks... not eliminate the opportunity to create them, but add a negative effect for doing it. It would add some strategy to it.

I don't understand what is so unrealistic about that. Every team in America has vastly different formations in their playbook. And personally, the only two formations that seem really out of the ordinary are the flex and wishbone- you could find the rest in the playbook of any pro-I team in America. The only teams that you don't see all those sets from are spread teams and even they have those sets in their playbook, they just aren't used often (if at all).

# 96 jello1717 @ 05/10/11 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattbooty

Quote:

Originally Posted by rollinphat

I guess the Air Force playbook is unrealistic since it has shotgun, i form and flexbone in it
hahaahahaha

Not at all. That is 3 formations. With this though you could create a playbooks that has a dozen vastly different formations (not just different versions of a formation like shotgun big, trips, 4 wide, etc) like shotgun, i form, flexbone, wishbone, pistol, ace, pro set, strong i, etc...

I'm not arguing that one way is better than the other, I'm just saying for my opinion I like the game to try to stay as true to real college football as possible, and it would be nice if there was some sort of penalty for getting unrealistic with crazy playbooks... not eliminate the opportunity to create them, but add a negative effect for doing it. It would add some strategy to it.

Actually Air Force has 4 types of formations, Ace, I, Flex, Shotgun and it's one of the most diverse playbooks in the game. The only one (that I can think of) that's more diverse is Utah State with Ace, Flex, I, Pistol, SG, Wishbone.

# 97 HogWild63 @ 05/10/11 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Roggie


	Time for me to make my dream Pistol playbook.

I know I love the Pistol Offense and can't wait to make a playbook with all the pistol formations in it!!!! Plus i really want to try out the new pistol formations such as full house and the train formations!!!

# 98 illwill10 @ 05/10/11 04:22 PM

I probably wont even need over 5-7 formations for each playbook. I will try to have a diverse run playbook. But I will have a lot of plays.

# 99 44drob @ 05/10/11 04:23 PM

This is going to be a good year !!!

# 100 MizzouBravesFan @ 05/10/11 05:01 PM

In a world where a majority of the offenses in CFB resemble something that gamers would create, I don't see how something can be determined "un-sim" or unrealistic.

A ton of teams use all sorts of formations and look and add sprinkles of different forms of offense all the time so I don't see what the problem is.

Also who's to say there isn't a coach out there developing an offense that is a hybrid of all different types of current offenses...who knows what coaches are coming up with nowadays.

I really believe this will add an extra layer to the game as well...esp. recruiting. You can recruit all kinds of of players now and then work different formations and be flexible with your offense to suit what they do best. Recruit that fast dual threat QB because you can come out in the Spread but then if there's a big time power RB you want, get him too...there's always the Tight I.

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