10:40 PM - April 8, 2011 by Jdoug312
Fight Night Champion title update #2 is coming soon. A new tuner will be released early next week to address the jab spamming issues.
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10:40 PM - April 8, 2011 by Jdoug312Fight Night Champion title update #2 is coming soon. A new tuner will be released early next week to address the jab spamming issues.
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# 101
Lakers 24 7 @ 04/27/11 06:02 PM
I think this goes to back to the argument of whether a game should be sim, or is having the mechanics necessary to beat cheesers enough.
You very well may be able to beat people who spam or throw 100+ punches every round, but IMO it shouldn't be something that has to be contended with in the first place.
In other words, the core problem hasn't been addressed. The unrealistic aspect is still there, they've just (possibly) given us a way to beat it.
The better route would have been to decrease the stamina, or at least not add to it. Then we would all be playing a realistic boxing sim and this wouldn't even be a discussion.
I think EA constantly sets their selves up for criticism when they market their games as being sim, or truly authentic, then once the game comes out, as Money99 says they don't even cater to the user base that they marketed the game to.
You very well may be able to beat people who spam or throw 100+ punches every round, but IMO it shouldn't be something that has to be contended with in the first place.
In other words, the core problem hasn't been addressed. The unrealistic aspect is still there, they've just (possibly) given us a way to beat it.
The better route would have been to decrease the stamina, or at least not add to it. Then we would all be playing a realistic boxing sim and this wouldn't even be a discussion.
I think EA constantly sets their selves up for criticism when they market their games as being sim, or truly authentic, then once the game comes out, as Money99 says they don't even cater to the user base that they marketed the game to.
# 102
fistofrage @ 04/27/11 06:12 PM
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It is win at all costs online. After a failed attempt to delete the patch last night, I had the pleasure of fighting a body spammer. It doesn't even resemble the sport of boxing anymore.
You can't tune or patch people's behavior. The game at release needed a few rather minor changes but they catered to the gamefly whiners who have already moved on. But now they have opened pandora's box.
Bottom line, the game only has 3000 people online at any given time and the game sold over 1/2 million. I bet there are more offline players than online. I don't know what to say except I hope the next patch addresses the offline concerns.
The next big cheeser maneuver is to land 1-2's and run. So I bet they will nerf the cross because it will be abused and people will cry. Haven't we gone full circle? We wanted crosses to finally carry some weight. Like I said, you can't patch 13 year old whining human behavior.
# 103
Lakers 24 7 @ 04/27/11 06:21 PM
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# 104
fistofrage @ 04/27/11 06:27 PM
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I thought prior to the 1st patch there was much more variety of fighter styles. I'll do some playing tonight and see what happens.
I want offline fixed and they can do whatever they want with online.
Edit: I can't get the stat columns to allign properly. Sorry that they are hard to read.
EA emails me the punch stats. Here are the punch stats from the 3 OWC games I've played today. It seems obvious to me that you can throw a lot more punches, especially modified blows, post-tuner.
These 3 were OWC fights. My OWC guy is an 82 OVR so most of my opponents have little power, making the fights last longer. I am also a conservative boxer. The first 2 fights went 10 rounds. I won the 1st by KO and the 2nd by decision.
Me Opponent
Total 412/698 (59%) 447/1,048 (42%)
Jabs 101/141 241/551
Power 1/13 35/103
Knockdowns 3 1
Total 334/572 (58%) 398/1,029 (38%)
Jabs 64/94 203/517
Power 2/9 50/140
Knockdowns 3 3
This fight went seven rounds where I lost by KO.
Me Opponent
Total 231/437 (52%) 240/727 (33%)
Jabs 47/76 142/437
Power 16/41 27/116
Knockdowns 0 3
DaveDQ:
This fight pissed me off. As you can see I made him miss a ton but he never slowed down. It felt like he was rewarded for jab spamming and throwing tons of modified crosses. But he wasn't punished for missing 66% of the time. Post-patch is also a lot harder to counter punch. This also makes it safer to throw 100+ punches per round.
The first two guys didn't do the zombie walk until round 9. The last guy never did. I think stamina only comes into play if the fight goes at least 9, even if they throw (and miss) a lot of punches.
In heavyweight H2H (I don't want to post more stats) all my fights are over by round 4. Everyone throws approximately 120 punches per round. Due to greater power, each fight is over quickly.
EA emails me the punch stats. Here are the punch stats from the 3 OWC games I've played today. It seems obvious to me that you can throw a lot more punches, especially modified blows, post-tuner.
These 3 were OWC fights. My OWC guy is an 82 OVR so most of my opponents have little power, making the fights last longer. I am also a conservative boxer. The first 2 fights went 10 rounds. I won the 1st by KO and the 2nd by decision.
Me Opponent
Total 412/698 (59%) 447/1,048 (42%)
Jabs 101/141 241/551
Power 1/13 35/103
Knockdowns 3 1
Total 334/572 (58%) 398/1,029 (38%)
Jabs 64/94 203/517
Power 2/9 50/140
Knockdowns 3 3
This fight went seven rounds where I lost by KO.
Me Opponent
Total 231/437 (52%) 240/727 (33%)
Jabs 47/76 142/437
Power 16/41 27/116
Knockdowns 0 3
DaveDQ:
This fight pissed me off. As you can see I made him miss a ton but he never slowed down. It felt like he was rewarded for jab spamming and throwing tons of modified crosses. But he wasn't punished for missing 66% of the time. Post-patch is also a lot harder to counter punch. This also makes it safer to throw 100+ punches per round.
The first two guys didn't do the zombie walk until round 9. The last guy never did. I think stamina only comes into play if the fight goes at least 9, even if they throw (and miss) a lot of punches.
In heavyweight H2H (I don't want to post more stats) all my fights are over by round 4. Everyone throws approximately 120 punches per round. Due to greater power, each fight is over quickly.
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It is by no means perfect for OWC. but I have said from say one these guys are going to continue to find exploits in this game and will live by their "win at all costs" philosophy. it's simply the nature of the beast.
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I'm lovin' it...GREAT background music too. 
Well Dave, wherever you are--- I decided to give it another shot, and after some adjustments, I'm actually really liking the game again. I'm just using a lot less power-modified shots, and really using my angles, footwork, and my jab a lot more. It's taking some getting used to with the upping of the stamina and the tweaking of the power, but I'm getting it down.
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I had to send him a message afterwads, "You should really throw more jabs."
# 112
acts238shaun @ 05/02/11 05:54 PM
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Classic!
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